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To: WhiskeyX; Absolutely Nobama; Alex Murphy; alpo; Army Air Corps; azishot; B4Ranch; bigbob; ...

Anyone on my list - can you verify that you spoke with me on some phone calls regarding my “JCSB think tank” idea a couple years back and that you know my name ? If you take my name and search the web with “software developer” you will find my resume online.

Without disclosing my identity, can you verify for WhiskeyX that I have every appearance of not being a Russian agent unless I’ve been some kind of sleeper from birth ? Thanks in advance.

WhiskeyX -

You didn’t comment the last time I posted about the Stalin-Rothschild connection, so I reposted, so you would make another auto-bot style response.

Now you’re responding with the same bot-style spam comment that you’re using to reply to any posts that you apparently do not want to rationally discuss.

You appear to be desperate to somehow prove that I’m a Russian agent of some kind, but unfortunately for you, I’m about as American as they come.

My FReeper handle comes from one of my earliest ancestors, one of the first settlers of the Mabie family, who settled in Newington, NH (just inland from Portsmouth) in the 1600’s and operated a ferry there. The other side of my family goes back to at least the 1700’s, as a member of the family signed a document in Pequannock, NJ that predated the Revolution. I was born in Pequannock, NJ in Chilton Memorial Hospital. I was only ever outside of the US when I traveled on business to Canada and to Australia. I’ve been a registered Republican since I was old enough to vote, and my first vote for President was for Ronald Reagan in 1984, just after I graduated high school.

I post extensively on FR about Christian topics, and everyone can see from my posting history that I am a Christian in the Reformed tradition.

I have shared my identity outside of FR with a number of Freepers and communicated with them via my email account when I tried to set up a conservative think tank. That list of people that expressed in interest in the idea has 84 FReepers on it, and though I have abandoned the think tank idea, I still occasionally ping the list. I had conference calls with some of those FReepers and they know my name and thus they could easily check me out online, where they could certainly peruse people they find associated with me online and contact them directly.

I’m simply of the opinion that America should not employ her armed forces to do the bidding of elite financiers who are hostile to Americans in their unwavering support of government spending, higher taxes, imported cheap foreign labor, exporting American jobs, undermining the Christian faith, spreading immorality through the media and education, etc.

And I’m also of the opinion that basically all of US foreign policy, including Eastern Europe and the Mid East, revolves around the machinations of said elites, and American should have no part of it.

And I’m also of the opinion that our political parties are but cheezy theater to pose as a legitimate government and draw attention away from the behind-the-scenes control by the elites.


164 posted on 03/30/2015 9:01:11 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Your ancestry sounds like mine, and so does your beliefs.


165 posted on 03/30/2015 9:06:56 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE US OF US CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Only a paid Russian troll would have spent that much time typing that.


166 posted on 03/30/2015 9:18:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Quit posting to me. Thank you.


187 posted on 03/30/2015 9:33:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Thanks for having me on your ping list...


195 posted on 03/30/2015 10:01:44 AM PDT by GOPJ (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist. - Freeper RipSawyer)
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To: PieterCasparzen
There are a few on FR who enjoy calling out people as being Trolls for Russia/Putin... Imo this is to stop any discussion of possible discovery of where truth resides in these propaganda wars and the events happening Internationally so that we can determine the facts or/and determine how sides are playing their cards.

FR has always been "open" to debate events regarding all and various countries and their relationship to ours. ....and for that uncovered what was really happening and or at least try to..... But when it comes to Russia/Putin that free flow of information seems to cease unless your into Obama's Agenda for Russia/Putin bashing.

Imo... It isn't about Putin and Obama...it's about why and, where and how these events begin, unfold, and the opportunity to engage on what we think might be the outcome and it's affects both here and Internationally....which do matter.

I am sorry that you have been cornered enough to see the need to identify yourself, or have witness to do so in order to push back those who have been most unfair and wrong in their assessment of who you are and your posts.

I and others here will continue to read and comment to your posts....they are interesting and insightful...and hopefully the truth will one day be found.

Meanwhile....the G-5 plus one are all sitting together regarding Iran.....including Russia. Which testifies to the fact no matter what the propaganda is the leadership between Russia and the US and other nations always remains in motion for what their influences can affect...regardless of the passion of their current differences.

207 posted on 03/30/2015 11:00:48 AM PDT by caww
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To: PieterCasparzen; Lazamataz; WhiskeyX

fyi (not adding fuel to the fire...)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/30/us-usa-threats-poll-idUSKBN0MQ0AV20150330

Republicans see Obama as more imminent threat than Putin: Reuters/Ipsos poll
WASHINGTON | By Roberta Rampton

(Reuters) - A third of Republicans believe President Barack Obama poses an imminent threat to the United States, outranking concerns about Russian President Vladimir Putin and Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

A Reuters/Ipsos online poll this month asked 2,809 Americans to rate how much of a threat a list of countries, organizations and individuals posed to the United States on a scale of 1 to 5, with one being no threat and 5 being an imminent threat.

The poll showed 34 percent of Republicans ranked Obama as an imminent threat, ahead of Putin (25 percent), who has been accused of aggression in the Ukraine, and Assad (23 percent). Western governments have alleged that Assad used chlorine gas and barrel bombs on his own citizens. View the graphic.


208 posted on 03/30/2015 11:06:37 AM PDT by GOPJ (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist. - Freeper RipSawyer)
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To: PieterCasparzen

“Russian agent”

Useful idiots are another important group...

“I post extensively on FR about Christian topics”

...and about NWO.


212 posted on 03/30/2015 11:10:40 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: PieterCasparzen

Far too often we are used as the proxy army of Europe or certain European territory’s such as France and Germany.

Libya was not necessary but, France wanted regime change.

Egypt wholly and completely unnecessary as well.

the same goes for the rest of Allah land.


222 posted on 03/30/2015 12:36:33 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: PieterCasparzen; Lazamataz; WhiskeyX; All

Thanks for the ping to an interesting thread. Intrigue, interesting/informative posts/links, some eye-candy & humor (thanks Laz). Thanks to all posters.


235 posted on 03/30/2015 4:15:58 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: PieterCasparzen

“Without disclosing my identity, can you verify for WhiskeyX that I have every appearance of not being a Russian agent unless I’ve been some kind of sleeper from birth?”

That is entirely unnecessary. As I have commented several times before, it is nearly impossible to know who and who is not a Russian posting on FR, so I try to use the description of a behavior rather than assume rightly or wrongly someone is supposed to be a certain nationality. Whenever I see pro-Russian comments and especially pro-Russian comments that repeat common Russian false propaganda and disinformation as agitprop, I have to conclude the commenter is disseminating pro-Russian agitprop regardless of who the person is and what the person’s nominal nationality is supposed to be. I will give some leeway in interpreting pro-Russian comments as more likely to be coming from a Russian national when the usage of American English is improper absent.

“You didn’t comment the last time I posted about the Stalin-Rothschild connection, so I reposted, so you would make another auto-bot style response.”

I didn’t respond immediately because I was preoccupies with responses to other posts and IRL activities.

“Now you’re responding with the same bot-style spam comment that you’re using to reply to any posts that you apparently do not want to rationally discuss.”

On the contrary, I was giving an appropriate response to the troll like attempts to hijack the subject of the news story. naturally the responses will be about as repetitious as the ridiculous number of posts used to attempt the hijacking of the topic. Every time a news story has come up about the Russian Internet trolls and been posted to FR, the same group of commenters descend upon the post and do everything in their power to change the subject to anything other than the criticism of the Russian troll activities. Naturally, it takes a lot of stubbornly similar responses to put these commenters on notice that their deliberate attempts to change the subject were not going to be unopposed.

“You appear to be desperate to somehow prove that I’m a Russian agent of some kind, but unfortunately for you, I’m about as American as they come.”

On the contrary, I’m only interested in what you do and not who you are. The differences between a Russian or an American posting pro-Russian false propaganda and disinformation and disrupting on topic discussions of Russian internet trolls is not particularly very relevant for the purposes of investigating the activities of the pro-Russian information warfare. I’ve encountered any number of Communist Americans IRL and an assortment of other political persuasions with similar anti-American and/or pro-Russian beliefs. How American your political beliefs are versus your American nativity can be a matter for dispute, as it is for everyone born with U.S. citizenship.

“My FReeper handle comes from one of my earliest ancestors, one of the first settlers of the Mabie family, who settled in Newington, NH (just inland from Portsmouth) in the 1600’s and operated a ferry there. The other side of my family goes back to at least the 1700’s, as a member of the family signed a document in Pequannock, NJ that predated the Revolution. I was born in Pequannock, NJ in Chilton Memorial Hospital. I was only ever outside of the US when I traveled on business to Canada and to Australia. I’ve been a registered Republican since I was old enough to vote, and my first vote for President was for Ronald Reagan in 1984, just after I graduated high school.”

Congratulations. All of my ancestors were 17th Century colonists, early 18th Century colonists, or native 18th Century Amerindians, with the exception of three English and German ancestors who immigrated before 1835. One of my 2nd great-grandfathers was among the founders of the Republican Party in Illinois. I own an original photograph of Abraham Lincoln which was given by Abraham Lincoln to my 2nd great-grandfather during the 1860 election because of his Republican founder’s support and because his brother-in-law served as an attorney-at-law on the same Illinois circuit court as one of Abraham Lincoln’s friends and colleagues. For more full disclosure I will add in part that I have cousins who have served as a Republican circuit court judge, A Democrat Illinois State Senator, a Democrat Arkansas State Senator, and a Republican Treasurer in a major metropolitan city controlled by a major Democrat majority, and a Democrat Precinct Committee Chairman for nearly fifty years. My father-in-law’s close cousin and life-long friend from their childhood days was a Tennessee Judge, U.S. Congressman, U.S. Senator, Chairman of the Democratic National Committee, primary candidate for President of the United States, and the longest serving U.S. Secretary of State in U.S. history. I have served as a Republican elector, and I have personally testified before a U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Science, Space, and Technology.

“I’m simply of the opinion that America should not employ her armed forces to do the bidding of elite financiers who are hostile to Americans in their unwavering support of government spending, higher taxes, imported cheap foreign labor, exporting American jobs, undermining the Christian faith, spreading immorality through the media and education, etc.”

“And I’m also of the opinion that basically all of US foreign policy, including Eastern Europe and the Mid East, revolves around the machinations of said elites, and American should have no part of it.”

I’m well acquainted with your kind of political philosophy and the arguments related to it, having family and acquaintances who espoused various forms of it. I also have some minor experience in discussing such matters with a diverse range of occupations including in part U.S. and foreign corporate directors, U.S. and foreign senior military officers, Soviet diplomats, and Soviet KGB officers. Refuting them is well beyond the scope of this forum, but suffice it to note we are diametrically opposed on most points of your political philosophy. On other points of your political philosophy we will agree upon the problem, but we will not agree on the approach to gaining a solution to the problem.

“And I’m also of the opinion that our political parties are but cheezy theater to pose as a legitimate government and draw attention away from the behind-the-scenes control by the elites.”

To the extent such sentiments as those of your may be true, their truth does not justify your approach for handling those realities.

In particular, your changing of the subject to criticize the United States in a post about a news story reporting on the activities of the Russian trolls and in prior news stories is a breach of the etiquette for the forum. You know or should know such matters as the role of the Soros propaganda can be and should be discussed in the posts about those news stories, and not in this one. Even given your antipathy towards the elite of the U.S., it hardly seems credible you would obstruct the discussion of the faults of the past and present Russian elite who have a proven track record of murdering and killing tens of millions of human beings, while threatening today to kill tenfold more if they aren’t allowed to conquer whom they please when they please in defiance of the Law of Nations.


244 posted on 03/30/2015 5:41:07 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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