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College Professor Bans Student From Class For His Views On Rape
BuzzFeed News ^ | March 19, 2015 | Katie J.M. Baker

Posted on 03/20/2015 12:31:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A 19-year-old was banned from the discussion portion of a humanities class at Reed College after students complained that his opinions on sexual assault made them feel uncomfortable. He doesn’t want to keep quiet.

Reed College, a small liberal arts school in Portland, Oregon, attracts students who want to speak their mind.

But when Jeremiah True wouldn’t stop talking about his controversial opinions on sexual assault in his required freshman humanities course, his professor banned him from the discussion segment of the class for the remainder of the semester.

The 19-year-old told BuzzFeed News that his professor, Pancho Savery, warned him repeatedly that his views made his classmates uncomfortable before he told him in a March 14 email that he was no longer welcome to participate in the “conference” section of his Humanities 110 lecture-seminar class.

“Please know that this was a difficult decision for me to make and one that I have never made before; nevertheless, in light of the serious stress you have caused your classmates, I feel that I have no other choice,” Savery wrote in the email, obtained by BuzzFeed News.

True, whose Facebook page says he studies “How to Annoy People” at Reed, takes pride in challenging his classmates’ opinions.

“I know many people aren’t comfortable with taking the stances I do, but I’m not a sheep,” he said.

True said he sparred with classmates over discussion topics related to ancient Greece and Rome, such as the “patriarchal” belief that logic is more important than emotion and his analysis of Lucretia’s rape. But it was his questioning of the widely shared and often debated statistic that 1 in 5 women in college are sexually assaulted — it doesn’t serve “actual rape victims” to “overinflate” numbers, he said — and his rejection of the term “rape culture” that led to him being banned, he said.

“I am critical of the idea of a rape culture because it does not exist,” he wrote in a lengthy email to Savery explaining his perspectives that he has also posted online. “We live in a society that hates rape, but also hasn’t optimized the best way to handle rape. Changing the legal definition of rape is a slippery slope. If sexual assault becomes qualified as rape, what happens next? What else can we legally redefine to become rape? Why would we want to inflate the numbers of rape in our society?”

More than 90 colleges are currently under federal investigation for allegedly mishandling sexual violence cases. Sexual assault on campus has become a hot-button issue both in Washington, where the White House launched a task force and senators have introduced bipartisan legislation, and on campuses like Reed, which roughly 1,500 students attend. For activists nationwide, the crackdown on campus sexual assault is long overdue. But other politicians and commentators have accused schools under pressure of suppressing free speech and mistreating accused students.

Reed’s own policies have been the object of scrutiny for years. Despite its small size, Reed’s students reported the most sex crimes of all colleges and universities in the state of Oregon during 2010–2012 and ranked third in the number of reported assaults per 1,000 students in the country in 2012.

“Reed is a private institution that often drops the ball in its responses to sexual misconduct, but this is an excellent example of a professor taking initiative to take care of his students,” senior Rosie Dempsey told BuzzFeed News. “Of course, we are an institution that encourages dissent and active discussion, but there is a difference between stimulating discussion through opposition and making other students feel unsafe.”

Savery, who declined to comment to BuzzFeed News, wrote in his email to True that he had discussed whether to ban True from class with another professor before making his decision.

“There are several survivors of sexual assault in our conference, and you have made them extremely uncomfortable with what they see as not only your undermining incidents of rape, but of also placing too much emphasis on men being unfairly charged with rape,” Savery wrote to True. “The entire conference without exception, men as well as women, feel that your presence makes them uncomfortable enough that they would rather not be there if you are there, and they have said that things you have said in our conference have made them so upset that they have difficulty concentrating in other classes. I, as conference leader, have to do what is best for the well-being of the entire class, and I am therefore banning you from conference for the remainder of the semester.”

Savery said it was too late for True to transfer to another conference but that True could still get credit for the course by completing the last paper and the final exam, and that he was welcome to discuss the remainder of the semester’s readings with Savery in his office.

True told BuzzFeed News that he didn’t feel he had belittled or “incited violence” against any sexual assault survivors who may have been in class.

“I simply questioned the statistics,” he said. “I understand [Savery] has to take care of his students, but I have to take care of my education.”

At Reed, which asks students to govern themselves using an “honor principle” that applies to all aspects of student life, professors are allowed by faculty code to use their own discretion to dismiss a student from class for “serious misconduct” if they consult with the student’s adviser first. (True said Savery was his adviser.) Reed spokesperson Kevin Myers said this was the first “instructor dismissal” he had heard of in his eight years working for the college and that administrators were investigating whether True was removed for appropriate reasons.

“For over 100 years, Reed has been very committed to free speech and diverse viewpoints, and maintaining an environment in which people can live and learn and work and express themselves honorably,” Myers said.

Private colleges aren’t bound by the First Amendment. But Ari Cohn at the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education said the foundation was interested in investigating True’s case. “Banning a student from a course simply because he expressed views on a topic of classroom discussion that some disagree with or are made uncomfortable by is generally inappropriate,” Cohn said. “A college campus is precisely the place for students to grapple with ideas and develop critical thinking skills, often by challenging prevailing wisdom and subjecting their assumptions to rigorous testing.”

Clara, a freshman in the class True was banned from, told BuzzFeed News that at first, True’s “controversial” points were welcomed and prompted interesting discussions. (Her name has been changed.) Eventually, Clara said, True’s arguments went from productive to “increasingly harmful and offensive.” She said True upset students when he said that it was understandable that the Holocaust happened given that people are not often taught to question systems of oppression, and made other comments about race and class. But the turning point was when he refused to stop discussing his beliefs on rape, even though sexual assault survivors told him outside of class that it made them uncomfortable.

“That’s when he crossed the border from his right to have his own beliefs to harassment,” said Clara. She said that she never felt physically unsafe, but that she is a survivor of sexual assault and True’s comments made it hard for her to concentrate in class as well as other courses.

“In response to being respectfully asked to stop, he discussed [his views] more openly and more aggressively, and just disregarded people’s lived experiences,” she said. “He continued to argue with people who had expressed to him that they felt unsafe and uncomfortable. He said rape culture didn’t exist, but I feel like I live rape culture every day.”

Other students on campus said they were happy that Savery had made a decision that benefited the other students in his class.

“I’m really comforted by the administrative response,” said Kate Hilts, a junior. “It’s really nice to know that my school supports survivors and listens when they say they don’t feel safe. Rape culture is indisputable and [True’s] words and actions are deeply upsetting. They’ve retraumatized and triggered survivors, and that seems antithetical to Reed culture.”

True isn’t planning on quieting down anytime soon. On Wednesday, he emailed a lengthy diatribe to the college’s professors and launched a change.org petition that currently has more than 350 signatures.

“I just want to bring attention to the fact that this happens on colleges,” he said. “Right now, going to college is a terrifying experience if you are male.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: college; jeremiahtrue; oregon; panchosavery; portland; rape; reedcollege
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To: Blue Devil Reaganite

Thank you for the correction - appreciated.


41 posted on 03/20/2015 9:05:35 AM PDT by jamaksin
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I bet all these liberal academics were in support of the SCT when it ruled that American Nazis had the right to march and speak in Skokie, Ill. , a town with a large number of Jews who were being made uncomfortable by the Nazi anti-Semitism.


42 posted on 03/20/2015 9:58:25 AM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one... what's your plan?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The libs changed the definition of what constitutes sexual harassment as well. When they can’t get their desired result by following the standard rules, definitions, or regulations, they change them to suit their needs, or manipulate the findings. We’ve seen them do it time and time again over the years.


43 posted on 03/20/2015 10:48:32 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to stop this nonsense of “you make me uncomfortable & therefore you must go”. But, as long as that is the apparent rule, I can be uncomfortable, too.

Men dressed a women make me uncomfortable & I feel threatened by someone so confused by something so simple. Same for women dressed as men.

People who are covered from head to toe with tattoos make me uncomfortable. I feel threatened by someone with so little respect for their own body, that they likely have no respect for me, either.

People that constantly call white people racist & privileged seem threatening to me. Being around them makes me uncomfortable & I’d rather not associate with them.

This is just my short list, but THEY MUST BE BANISHED FROM WHEREVER I AM.

To hell with freedom of speech & expression, right?

Whatever happened to “sticks & stones.....”? Whatever happened to free & open discussion of issues?

These offended students are in for a rude awakening IF they ever enter the real world. They shouldn’t expect a lot of success in life.


44 posted on 03/20/2015 11:05:09 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: wintertime

:’)


45 posted on 03/20/2015 12:43:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The article calls it a small “liberal arts” college. There aren’t many colleges that aren’t liberal arts.


46 posted on 03/20/2015 6:16:42 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Obama voters are my enemy. And so are RINO voters.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Twenty Is The New 12..Years old

Prolonged Childhood and Adolescance teamed with Feminism have produced ...much of this younger generation


47 posted on 03/20/2015 8:35:58 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Yet Dakota Meyer and Kyle J. White are from that generation.


48 posted on 03/20/2015 8:39:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are always exceptions.

That generation by and large is addicted to “rap” music”.

They are feeding their minds and souls on spiritual junk food


49 posted on 03/20/2015 8:42:22 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Politicalkiddo

It’s rule by men, not rule by law. So it’s arbitrary. Any judge can say anything they want to, and the people are fresh out of luck.


50 posted on 03/20/2015 8:59:06 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/ g g)
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To: mass55th

Pancho Savery. That’s a guy?

Maybe one of the girls in class could report to campus police that something Savery does or says makes her feel “assaulted”. Then see how the “rape culture” narrative unfolds...


51 posted on 03/20/2015 9:02:57 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/ g g)
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To: Hulka

More often than not, sir, it’s the Prof that has the agenda. When are they going to “Shut the hell up”???


52 posted on 03/20/2015 11:59:36 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: cynwoody

Irony of it all is that Reed is where the movie Animal House was filmed...


53 posted on 03/21/2015 12:36:51 AM PDT by IChing
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To: cynwoody

Oops, sorry, I was wrong, it was U of Oregon in Eugene.


54 posted on 03/21/2015 12:41:04 AM PDT by IChing
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To: cynwoody

Incidentally, during the late 1990s I lived in Portland, and was on the Reed campus frequently because a group I belonged to met there weekly. Very beautiful environment. Commie stronghold of course.


55 posted on 03/21/2015 12:51:43 AM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing
Oops, sorry, I was wrong, it was U of Oregon in Eugene.

I somehow acquired the assumption that Animal House was filmed at the now-defunct Parsons College, Fairfield, Iowa. But, I confess, I never researched the matter.

You are right. According to the Wikipedia:

The president of the University of Oregon in Eugene, William Beaty Boyd,[10] had been a senior administrator of a major California university when his campus was considered for a location of the film The Graduate.[5] After he consulted with other senior administrative colleagues who advised him to turn it down due to the lack of artistic merit, production moved to Berkeley and USC. The Graduate went on to become a classic, and Boyd was determined not to make the same mistake twice when the producers [of Animal House] inquired about filming at Oregon. After consulting with student government leaders and officers of the Pan Hellenic Council, the Director of University Relations advised the president that the script, although raunchy and often tasteless, was a very funny spoof of college life. Boyd even allowed the filmmakers to use his office as Dean Wormer's.[5]

56 posted on 03/21/2015 1:17:06 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Hulka

“Rants” don’t really happen in college classes, unless it’s the professor.

What is it about professors that makes so many of them: 1)mentally limited to the extent that they’re communist and 2)unable to understand that communism is an agenda?


57 posted on 03/21/2015 1:29:47 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This young man has learned a valuable life’s lesson. Don’t argue with women. Say what you have to say and then ignore them. ;)


58 posted on 03/21/2015 1:33:13 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberals LOVE diversity. Except for the only one that matters, diversity of opinion.


59 posted on 03/21/2015 1:57:26 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: reasonisfaith

Student “rants” happen more often that you think.

Re professors: Because they are usually those that never worked in the real world, been wrapped in “intellectual” certitude for so long that reality has no place. And they are smug in their “I’m better than you” attitude because, you know, they are ‘smart.’


60 posted on 03/21/2015 4:29:30 AM PDT by Hulka
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