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The First Amendment Should Never Protect Hatred
Thought Catalog ^ | March 18, 2015 | Tanya Cohen

Posted on 03/19/2015 6:12:41 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: NorthMountain
Do Americans have no idea how ironic it is for them to call their country “the land of the free” when it doesn’t have any kind of law against hate speech?

Does she have no idea how ironic is is to push for speech codes in the 'land of the free'?

61 posted on 03/19/2015 7:06:25 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: C19fan
Nobody in Europe believes that these laws interfere with their sacred, guaranteed right to freedom of speech. Rather, these laws protect freedom of speech by ensuring that it is used responsibly and for the purposes of good.

If not intended as satirical, the statement reveals the writer's delusion. The laws to which the writer refers, not only clearly interfere with freedom of speech; they absolutely deny the freedom of religion. For the parallel attack on the latter in America, by those who pretend to champion the former, see Leftwing Word Games.

Of course, the writer would destroy not only religious freedom. By forbidding criticism of idiotic ideas that in any normal human era would have been recognized as absurd--for example, the forced acceptance of a complete change in the whole concept of marriage & the family--the woman would mandate social chaos.

This is a good find, on your part, as it illustrates just how far the Leftist disassociation with reality has gone.

William Flax

62 posted on 03/19/2015 7:08:15 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Lady Heron
She doesn't care about facts.

"The Supreme Court of Canada has also found that truthful statements can be classified as illegal hate speech, and that not all truthful statements must be free from restriction."

63 posted on 03/19/2015 7:09:48 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: demshateGod

It is a sight to behold. I encourage all freepers to read the comments. Every time I see one of these types of articles people dedicated to freedom tear the author a new one.


64 posted on 03/19/2015 7:10:06 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Cowboy Bob
"Who gets to define “hate?”"

We all know the answer to that question, and it isn't us, it's the Tanya Cohens of the world.
65 posted on 03/19/2015 7:10:59 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: C19fan

......Aaaannnnd, just as predicted, the FCC takeover of the internet will mean Hate Speech laws, which will be defined as any criticism of gays, muslims, liberals, or the government.


66 posted on 03/19/2015 7:11:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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To: C19fan

It’s used to protect liberal hatred all the time.


67 posted on 03/19/2015 7:11:52 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (No one can come to me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.)
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To: C19fan
" . . . or saying that trans women aren’t really women would get you charged with discrimination and/or incitement to hatred."

Hey, Tanya, what about saying that conservative women aren't really women, or conservative blacks aren't really black? Is that "hate" by your definition?
68 posted on 03/19/2015 7:13:33 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: JayAr36

There is NOTHING in the First Amendment about KINDS of speech. The First Amendment was about ALL speech, not just political speech.

The words that always ignored are “CONGRESS shall make no law...”

Congress is prohibited by the First Amendment from making any law about speech. The STATES are not prohibited from making some laws about speech.

The real problem is the phony “incorporation doctrine.”


69 posted on 03/19/2015 7:14:19 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: C19fan
As long as we can ban hatred of America.

Nope, didn't think so.

70 posted on 03/19/2015 7:16:43 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: Arthur McGowan
"The real problem is the phony “incorporation doctrine.”"

The incorporation doctrine was a sledgehammer against the Constitution. It basically destroyed the Constitution and gave rise to much of the federal meddling in state and local affairs that we see today. The Founders would be appalled to see the federal government meddling in things like high school graduation speeches.
71 posted on 03/19/2015 7:19:48 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: circlecity

Explains why Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini were so popular!


72 posted on 03/19/2015 7:23:08 AM PDT by catman67 (14 gauge?)
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To: C19fan

PJ media seems to have commentary on this author from the month of January: http://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2015/01/14/got-hate-part-deux-the-return-of-tanya-cohen/


73 posted on 03/19/2015 7:25:32 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: CitizenUSA

I sent an email to the rag that published this article. Nothing obscene, just some questions and suggestions, including the suggestion that Ms. Cohen seek professional help.


74 posted on 03/19/2015 7:40:21 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Cowboy Bob
Who gets to define “hate?”

Liberals, don't cha know?

75 posted on 03/19/2015 8:03:06 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Think it is time for the first amendment to be changed in regards to the press. If they stand with the leftwing of the country then it is clear they are not doing their job as oversight of the government on behalf of its citizens.
No, the First Amendment is as it should be. What is missing is an Antidefamation League. And lawsuits against the FCC and the FEC for blatant violations of the freedom of the press. The salient fallacy in journalism is the conceit of objectivity. It is fine to say you are trying to be objective - and laudable if you actually try to do it - but the reality is that if you claim that you actually are objective, that is proof of the contrary.

If you claim to be objective, you cannot be conducting the introspection which is implied in the actual attempt to be objective. If you assume a priori that where you stand does not depend on where you sit, how are you to actually try to discern the contrary?

Any wire service is a virtual meeting of the membership thereof. And, according to Adam Smith, people of the same trade seldom meet together about anything but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public. It follows that the AP in particular and the wire services in general should be under strict scrutiny, at the very least, for antitrust violations. And what would their conspiracy naturally turn to? Journalists want their talk to be important. What else would you expect but that they would conspire to denigrate “the man who is actually in the arena” in favor of “the critic?” Naturally they would turn to advocacy of socialism, which is nothing else but cynicism directed at the very possibility of excellence “in the arena.”


76 posted on 03/19/2015 8:03:20 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: C19fan

She should change the name of her website to “Thought Control”.


77 posted on 03/19/2015 8:07:10 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: C19fan

Thanks for posting this. If it’s not satire, it shows the full, horrific, totalitarian content of a supposedly “tolerant” leftist’s mind than almost any other article I have read. It’s a perfect example of “slavery is freedom” leftist thinking. Because of that, it’s definitely not entitled to a barf alert.


78 posted on 03/19/2015 8:20:21 AM PDT by libstripper (")
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To: libstripper

She learned all this totalitarian crap in college. We need to treat it as the threat it represents. Free speech on college campuses is dying thanks to likes of Ms. Cohen.


79 posted on 03/19/2015 8:23:36 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: libstripper
"If it’s not satire, it shows the full, horrific, totalitarian content of a supposedly “tolerant” leftist’s mind than almost any other article I have read. It’s a perfect example of “slavery is freedom” leftist thinking."

It is definitely not satire, and we are much further down that road than we think. Just a few years ago, Barack Obama claimed to oppose gay marriage, and progressives universally championed his candidacy.

Now, to publicly oppose gay marriage can cause you to lose your job, to be fined, to have your business boycotted or even closed, and to be loudly proclaimed as a bigot equivalent to the worst kind of racist you can imagine.

And it's not limited to that. People who oppose various policies of Barack Obama are called racists, and those accusations go uncontested in the media - they are allowed to stand as "respectable" opinion. We are in the first stages of the criminalization of conservatism.

When Rush Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke a "slut," the MSM were outraged and we had one of those "national conversations" that progressives are so fond of. But when liberal pundits said even worse things about Sarah Palin - words that cannot even be printed - there was silence, no apologies were necessary, and there was no need for a national discussion.
80 posted on 03/19/2015 8:37:05 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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