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ATF raises new concerns about AR-15 ammo (ATF Director: All 5.56 Ammo Pose Threat)
Washington Examiner ^ | March 12, 2015 | 12:44 pm | Paul Bedard

Posted on 03/12/2015 11:39:08 AM PDT by Red Steel

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives on Thursday raised new concerns about surplus military ammo used in popular AR-15 rifles and pistols just days after pulling back on a proposal to ban the ammo because it could threaten police safety.

In a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing, ATF Director B. Todd Jones said all types of the 5.56 military-style ammo used by shooters pose a threat to police as more people buy the AR-15-style pistols.

"Any 5.56 round" is "a challenge for officer safety," he said. Jones asked lawmakers to help in a review of a 1986 bill written to protect police from so-called "cop killer" rounds that largely exempted rifle ammo like the 5.56 because it has been used by target shooters, not criminals.

His agency's move to ban the 5.56 M855 version was condemned by the National Rifle Association and majorities in the House and Senate and as a result was pulled back though not abandoned. At the hearing Jones said that nearly 90,000 comments on the proposal were received, many negative.

As a result, he said that the ATF will suspend rewriting the "framework" used to exempt armor piercing ammo from sale or use. "It probably isn't going to happen any time soon," he said. Jones also said, "We are not going to move forward."

The 5.56 M855 round, he said, is military surplus, typically has a green tip and was used in the M-16. There are several versions of the 5.56. The M855carries a bullet that can penetrate police body armor, though shooters often debate that.

The ATF singled it out for a ban because more AR-15 style pistols that can shoot the ammo are being produced and presumably could be used by criminals in police shootouts. The AR-15 can also shoot the less lethal .223 round, which was not targeted by ATF in the ban proposal.

Police groups, however, said the pistols are not being used against cops.

The NRA and some 52 senators said they also feared that the ATF move was an Obama administration bid for gun control targeted at the AR-15.


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: 223; 2ndamendment; 556; 5pt56; ar15; banglist; batfe; m855; nra; pennsylvania; pt223; secondamendment
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1 posted on 03/12/2015 11:39:08 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....


2 posted on 03/12/2015 11:40:42 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: Red Steel

All I had to do was look at his picture and Bingo , I knew he was appointed by Obama


3 posted on 03/12/2015 11:41:43 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Red Steel

The ATF is a challenge to civil rights and freedom.

Let’s ban the damn thing.


4 posted on 03/12/2015 11:42:10 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Red Steel

Virtually all rifle ammo above .22 cal can penetrate type 2 body armor. Is the ATF going to basically outlaw hunting with anything other than .22s and shotguns by banning rifle ammo?


5 posted on 03/12/2015 11:43:03 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Red Steel

“New” concerns?! Has AR 15 become nuclear? Has kryptonite been added?


6 posted on 03/12/2015 11:44:07 AM PDT by albie
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To: Red Steel

They’re gearing up for a civil war?

More and more they point to the common citizen as a violent threat.

It’s really amazing.


7 posted on 03/12/2015 11:44:31 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Red Steel

No surprise here. Expected all along


8 posted on 03/12/2015 11:45:15 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Red Steel
"The AR-15 can also shoot the less lethal .223 round,"

the .223 round is virtually identical to a 5.56 round and most AR-15s can shoot either interchangeably. Both are equally lethal as they are essentially the same thing.

9 posted on 03/12/2015 11:45:26 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

In a heartbeat...if we let them.


10 posted on 03/12/2015 11:45:29 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: Red Steel

Green-colored 40 ton dumptrucks pose a distinct threat to Law Enforcement Officers that are directing traffic, therefore, these Green-colored 40 ton dumptrucks require special regulation.


11 posted on 03/12/2015 11:46:13 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: albie

C’mon man, we’re talking about libtards here. Their understanding of a gun comes from movies. Why’d you think they came up with the term “assault weapon’? It came straight out their ass, I mean brain...


12 posted on 03/12/2015 11:48:14 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Red Steel

If AR style pistols are so dangerous, why aren’t they banned?


13 posted on 03/12/2015 11:48:33 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Red Steel

FUATF


14 posted on 03/12/2015 11:49:06 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Civil rights are for civilized people.)
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To: Red Steel

This is why the gun industry begged people not to make home-brew AR15 pistols for years. Once a pistol fires .223, all .223 ammo can be outlawed.


15 posted on 03/12/2015 11:49:43 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and there is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: Red Steel

ATF Director B. Todd Jones in name only , Obama White House really runs it


16 posted on 03/12/2015 11:50:00 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Red Steel

Since when do we ask the police unions which of our freedoms they approve of?


17 posted on 03/12/2015 11:50:02 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: circlecity

Yes.


18 posted on 03/12/2015 11:50:12 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and there is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: Red Steel

All ammo fired from every firearm poses a threat. It supposed to work that way and it has nothing to do with 2a rights. This guy probably thinks that there is such a thing as a safe firearm. What a progressive dolt.


19 posted on 03/12/2015 11:50:32 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (#JuSuisCharlesMartel)
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To: Red Steel

ATF doubling down.


20 posted on 03/12/2015 11:51:16 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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