Posted on 03/01/2015 6:40:39 PM PST by thackney
I guess that depends on who you ask.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/23/did-general-motors-really-repay-taxpayer-bailout/
Well if nothing else we can have dueling links, LOL
http://projects.propublica.org/bailout/list
Nothing is dirtier than subsidies to business. Its using tax dollars to give an advantage to one business over another.
“Electric cars suck bilgewater in cold weather, ...”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ5PqPeOPT0
Tesla Model S Cold Weather Range Test Norway
(Norwegian - ENGLISH SUBTITLES)
My best friend’s daughter has a Tesla S.
Even though she is a devoted Tesla partisan, she readily admits the range is much less useful in our frigid Indiana winter.
Thank God for the metric system.
I oppose all forms of corporate welfare equally.
They’re not common anywhere the AC or heater/defroster has to run. Coastal California is one of the exceptions.
I think the point is how much of what GM claims to have paid back did they actually pay back and how much came from a TARP escrow fund that did not count as their bail out money but was not really GM’s money either? As I understand it that is the scam they were running a couple of years ago when they claimed to have paid most of the bailout money back. It is a very good thing if they actually paid most of it back, but I do not trust anything the regime or the UAW owners of GM claim.
I agree, but if you are in the game it’s hard to compete against other teams that are taking the welfare. It’s a rigged game and if you want to stay in it, you need to use every advantage you can.
Yes, we need to get rid of corporate welfare. Similarly, we need to get rid of unnecessary regulations and red tape, most of which is designed to 1. raise tax revenue, 2. protect existing businesses from competition, 3. provide bureaucratic government jobs to (mostly) democrat voters. If we got rid of welfare and red tape, we’d see a LOT more startups and a much more robust economy.
Yes, and did you notice how much easier it is to understand the metric system when it is discussed in Norwegian?
Me, I still prefer furlongs, fathoms, chains, rods, varas (look that one up), etc!
/sarc
:-)
Stop accepting subsidies??? That’s what Tesla exists for.
GM still owes the taxpayers $15 billion. I will take my share in the form of a 2015 Corvette Z06.
I think a 25% reduction in range is nothing to brag about. Last I checked, my gas car gets a 0% reduction in range in cold weather.
But I am actually more interested in how hot weather affects it. I know for example that a Volt owner manual states not to leave the car out in the sun without being plugged in....energy is needed to cool the batteries. So I wonder what the extra drain would be to keep both occupant and batteries cool in hot weather....not California hot but hot and humid 105 degree days in the midwest and deep south.
“Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.” - Ronald Reagan
The question in the article asked about whether it’s normal to pay the higher interest loan first?
I think it depends on what is owed. If I’m close to paying off a loan, even if it’s a low interest debt, I’m inclined to prioritizing that loan because it frees up cash that can be used on other debt to speed them up.
Like everything else from this administration, there is a lot going on with GM that seems shady. I do not believe they have actually paid anywhere near what they are claiming. I believe they are doing the equivalent of people using one credit card to pay off another.
A typical gasoline cars gets a 12% range reduction in cold weather.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/coldweather.shtml
“But I am actually more interested in how hot weather affects it. I know for example that a Volt owner manual states not to leave the car out in the sun without being plugged in....energy is needed to cool the batteries.”
The manual does not say that. It says to use sunshades when parking in direct sunlight when it is hot.
“In hot weather, avoid parking in direct sunlight or use sunshades inside the vehicle.”
It is common knowledge among EV owners that cold weather hurts electric cars range much more than hot weather does.
(As long as you are not talking about the Nissan Leaf, which went the cheap route among mainstream electric cars and did not include active liquid cooling for their battery. As a result, early model years suffered some permanent range reduction from the heat in Arizona. They have addressed this issue in recent years.)
“Use the following tips to help maximize energy efficiency and range.”
It is not required for the health of the battery, it is just there as a tip in order to save energy.
Now, for long-term storage, then yes, you should not leave it in the sunlight because the battery will eventually run out of juice keeping itself cool. But you should follow this advice for any kind of car because of the damage that weeks of cooking in the sun can do. I think sunshades were invented long before electric cars.
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