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Climate change bill faces uphill battle
Click2Houston.com ^ | 02/22/2015 | Erin McPike

Posted on 02/22/2015 2:37:55 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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1 posted on 02/22/2015 2:37:55 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It is FREEZING throughout America this week.

What a goof.


2 posted on 02/22/2015 2:40:01 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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“He also believes there’s renewed public interest in tackling climate change thanks to increasing awareness of the problem in the wake of a series of extreme weather events.”

But..but..they keep telling us that “weather” is NOT “climate.” Unless, of course, they think it supports the hoax.


3 posted on 02/22/2015 2:43:00 PM PST by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Whether it’s 1000 pages or 30 it’s still an alchemy bill, turning carbon into gold for redistribution.


4 posted on 02/22/2015 2:44:37 PM PST by jimfree (In November 2016 my 14 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Democrats and the MSM are dumb.

Climate change wasn’t even in the top ten issues Americans wanted addressed in the 2014 midterm election.

But Democrats’ plan for reversing their minority status is to ban fossil fuels, destroy the coal industry and put working class Americans out of work.

These are the same folks who can’t bring themselves to vote for the Keystone XL bill that would put Americans to work.

Let them bring up their bill for a vote.


5 posted on 02/22/2015 2:45:45 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

These a-holes aren’t concerned with climate change one iota. They want to sell and trade carbon credits on the market (sort of). We alreafy know how this will end. Open your wallets and hand over some more. Sorry but mine is bone dry from the thieves in Obamaland...


6 posted on 02/22/2015 2:47:36 PM PST by jsanders2001
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If I ever get one wish, it would be to kick Van Hollen’s eternal leftist smirk off his face.
7 posted on 02/22/2015 2:50:04 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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“With Republicans in control of both houses of Congress, the odds of passing a climate change bill this year are virtually non-existent.”

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Glad to hear that!


8 posted on 02/22/2015 2:53:11 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: goldstategop

Dumb is generous. Moron closer but still does not quite capture the truth of the matter.


9 posted on 02/22/2015 2:58:10 PM PST by jwalsh07 (E)
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“Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don’t rule out malice”

Heinlein’s Razor


10 posted on 02/22/2015 3:03:00 PM PST by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

How terrifying is it that this could have passed without any issue in 2009?


11 posted on 02/22/2015 3:04:20 PM PST by Rodamala
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But of course. Being moronic and evil are not mutually exclusive.


12 posted on 02/22/2015 3:05:07 PM PST by jwalsh07 (E)
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“Just one more carrot Van Hollen is pitching to Republicans: To those who are dismissive of 1,000-page tomes the Marylander is dropping a bill just 30 pages. “

heck they could drop it to a single sentence
“We want and demand your money - all of it”. (just like the scene in the Vacation movie where the fat gas station redneck demands all of Chevy’s money)


13 posted on 02/22/2015 3:09:40 PM PST by plain talk
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15 posted on 02/22/2015 3:31:13 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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Hurry up and pass the darn bill! I’m freezing my a___ off!


16 posted on 02/22/2015 3:38:18 PM PST by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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As I recall the House passed this cap and trade bill in 2009, but it never passed the Senate.

I never understand the reasoning with cap and trade. If carbon pollution is really fouling the environment, then why don’t liberals want to ban it entirely? Cap and trade allows these alleged pollutants to still be produced. It just levies a tax or fee on the output of same.

How is it that liberals are OK with a pollutant being produced as long as someone pays for the right to produce said pollutant??

The alleged pollutant is not any less dangerous just because someone paid their cap and trade tax. What the heck am I missing???


17 posted on 02/22/2015 3:38:48 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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“The thrust of the bill “caps carbon pollution and reduces CO2 emissions gradually but steadily, auctions carbon pollution permits to the first sellers of oil, coal and natural gas into the U.S. market, and returns 100% of the auction proceeds electronically each quarter to every American with a valid Social Security number,” he said.”

In other words bribe every american with their own money to get their support of this bill.

And how will they differentiate those americans with the valid ss numbers from the ones with the invalid ones?

Oh, look. There’s Jose. He’s got a dozen valid social security numbers and he isnt even a citizen.


18 posted on 02/22/2015 4:13:05 PM PST by lowbridge
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The thrust of the bill "caps carbon pollution and reduces CO2 emissions gradually but steadily, auctions carbon pollution permits to the first sellers of oil, coal and natural gas into the U.S. market, and returns 100% of the auction proceeds electronically each quarter to every American with a valid Social Security number," he said. .... He pointed out that his legislation includes a protection for American industries by rebating costs for exports while imposing tariffs on foreign imports.

All well and good in theory. Global warming is normally a tool for rent seekers to get taxpayer subsidies for luxury electric cars (for example). Global warming is also a tool to send reparations payments to third world thugs who ironically spend the money on private jets. So on its face, Van Hollen's proposal is better than those things that we already do.

The problem is that the political process will result in 400 pages of special favors and politicized tariffs which we will have to pass to see what is in it. Also the warming is currently beneficial (more than detrimental) and there needs to be some recognition that CO2 reduction is a long term goal for a century from now using better electricity generation and other energy solutions yet to be invented. Political actions will only stifle those, although a neutral tax is, in theory, the least political proposal.

19 posted on 02/22/2015 4:18:33 PM PST by palmer (Free is when you don't have to pay for nothing. Or do nothing. We want Obamanet.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
If carbon pollution is really fouling the environment, then why don’t liberals want to ban it entirely?

CO2 is so scary, they still won't push for nuclear energy.

Nuclear energy, the only reliable source of energy to reduce current CO2 emissions.

20 posted on 02/22/2015 4:21:44 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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