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Detroit: Muslim who stabbed non-Muslims after asking if they were Muslim not charged with hate crime
Jihad Watch ^ | 2/20/15 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 02/21/2015 5:16:46 AM PST by fivecatsandadog

He is a Muslim. He asked his victims if they were Muslim. Then he stabbed them when they say they weren’t. If this isn’t a hate crime, what is? The fact that Terrence Lavaron Thomas has not been charged with a hate crime shows yet again that hate crime laws are political tools in the hands of the powerful, used to menace the powerless groups they dislike. In the Detroit area, the Muslim community is powerful — so this must not be a hate crime. “Detroit Muslim accused of stabbing victims over religion not charged with hate crime,” by Gus Burns, mlive.com, February 19, 2015 (thanks to Creeping Sharia):

DETROIT, MI — Oakland County Prosecutor Jessica Cooper didn’t charge a Detroit man with a hate crime after it’s suspected he stabbed two people at a Southfield bus stop, possibly motivated by religious hate.

Nick Loussia, Deputy Chief of Police for the Southfield Police Department, said the suspect, 39-year-old Terrence Lavaron Thomas, “is Muslim, and asked the victims what religion they were” before allegedly attacking them.

He’s charged with two counts of assault with intent to murder, carrying a dangerous weapon with unlawful intent and possession of marijuana.

Oakland County Chief Assistant Prosecutor Paul Walton said the evidence doesn’t support a 2-year felony charge of ethnic intimidation, although investigators are still interviewing witnesses.

Walton said an argument started over “bad breath and bad teeth” before it “deescalated to a physical altercation.”

“At this point … I’m not hearing anything that is going to monumentally change any of the charges,” Walton said.

The FBI is looking at the case also to see if any federal hate crimes were committed.

“We’re taking all of the logical investigative steps with regards to the sorts of violations we investigate,” David Porter, spokesman for the Detroit FBI field office, said Thursday. “There is no update to provide[.]

“I’m not saying anything beyond we are investigating the matter.”

Thomas’s bail was set at $1 million cash or surety bond.

According to police, Thomas attacked the victims, a 52-year-old man and 51-year-old man from Detroit, after he “made several comments about his religion and asked the victims about their religious beliefs just before the assault occurred.”

When police arrived to the scene Saturday night, they found that the 52-year-old victim had been stabbed in the head, neck and back. The 51-year-old victim had been stabbed in the hand….


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Michigan; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: detroit; hatecrime; michigan; muslim; nickloussia; oaklandcounty; paulwalton; southfield; tlavaronthomas
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Oakland County Chief Assistant Prosecutor Paul Walton said the evidence doesn’t support a 2-year felony charge of ethnic intimidation, although investigators are still interviewing witnesses.

The FBI is looking at the case also to see if any federal hate crimes were committed.

***Forget about the FBI taking this any further. Read below:

A key element of Islamic law (sharia) is the definition of the crime of slander. Unlike in U.S. law on slander, for which truth is an absolute defense, in sharia slander “means to mention anything concerning a [Muslim] person that he would dislike.” As may be seen at the website of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, (OIC – the 57-member head of state organization comprising the Islamic ummah – or perhaps, caliphate), one of the group’s top priorities is the global criminalization of the criticism of Islam. The Muslim Brotherhood, the political action arm of the OIC, working closely here with the FBI, has just taken a major step forward in achieving that objective. http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/muslim-brotherhood-takes-charge-fbi-counterterrorism-training, Claire Lopez, April 2012

1 posted on 02/21/2015 5:16:46 AM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Oakland county not charging muslim attacker with a hate crime.

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2 posted on 02/21/2015 5:19:13 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: fivecatsandadog

Hunh. Maybe they’d better assign him Secret Service protection in case anyone involved has a backbone.


3 posted on 02/21/2015 5:21:37 AM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: fivecatsandadog; cripplecreek

Still, no indication that the perpetrator was enrolled in “Islamic Studies” at Southern Michigan University.

Where is talk about his rap-sheet?


4 posted on 02/21/2015 5:21:55 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: fivecatsandadog
If I'm ever on a jury that hears a “hate crime” case I'm gonna vote “not guilty” on any such charge.That's because I'm unalterably opposed to the basic concept.But during that trial I'll listen very carefully to the evidence presented by *both* sides regardless of the race/religion/ethnicity/gender/sexual “orientation” of the defendant *or* the victim(s).
5 posted on 02/21/2015 5:23:23 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama;America's First "Third World" President)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Yeah I’m thinking its a fair bet he has an extensive history with the penal system.


6 posted on 02/21/2015 5:23:38 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: fivecatsandadog

It is beyond me how anyone who claims to be a conservative could possibly embrace the concept of a “Hate Crime”. In a free society a crime is a crime. Do we really want our government to mete out harsher punishments because of the thoughts behind a crime?

The Progressives are pushing the concept of “Hate Crimes” because once that idea takes hold it’s a very short step to outlawing “Hate Speech”. They are already working hard on that, let’s not help them.


7 posted on 02/21/2015 5:24:05 AM PST by Junk Silver
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To: cripplecreek

Might as well get rid of all “hate crime” laws.

When it’s the bad guys (MUSLIMS, you idiot) they will never get charged.

In case you haven’t noticed, this country is RUN BY MUSLIMS!


8 posted on 02/21/2015 5:24:21 AM PST by Flintlock (Soapbox didn't work; ballot box neither--we're left with the BULLET BOX.)
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To: fivecatsandadog

If a Muslim stabbed non-Muslims after asking if they were Muslim and these NON Muslims were homosexual, a ‘Trayvon Martin,gentle giant type’ or a female exercising her ‘Roe vs Wade right to choose’ would the crime be labeled a ‘Hate Crime’ or are Muslims at the ‘Top of the Charts’ of lefty victims groups???


9 posted on 02/21/2015 5:25:47 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: fivecatsandadog

Hate CRIME is NEVER made against Moslem killers.

Under criminal Holder, he DO”J” has sworn to
their Tyrant-King to protect Islam and Islamic
terrorists .... at all costs.


10 posted on 02/21/2015 5:26:00 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: fivecatsandadog
Pure random happenstance.


11 posted on 02/21/2015 5:26:07 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I am also opposed to the idea of hate crimes as well.


12 posted on 02/21/2015 5:26:38 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

The FBI, now recognizes and honors Sharia Law over United States State and Federal LAW, will make sure that any evidence of the perp being muslim, or behaving as one, is SCRUBBED. We can thank Obama and the MB for this. We’re TOASTED.


13 posted on 02/21/2015 5:27:02 AM PST by fivecatsandadog ( IMPEACH THE TRAITOR. But don't loose your head over it.)
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To: fivecatsandadog
The US will soon have three, distinct, de facto legal systems.

1. Traditional western/American.
2. Social justice based on black/minority resentment of whites.
3. Sharia.

14 posted on 02/21/2015 5:27:13 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: fivecatsandadog

No hate crime here, he was just practicing his religion.


15 posted on 02/21/2015 5:30:13 AM PST by This I Wonder32460
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To: fivecatsandadog; cripplecreek

Calypso Louie Farrakhan nods to Sharia Law in a very weak fashion.

If it serves the purposes of “The American Black Liberation Theology” (marxism by any other name would smell as sweet), then Louie likes it.

He will be one of the first apostates beheaded or immolated by ISIS


16 posted on 02/21/2015 5:33:21 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: cripplecreek
"Muslim who stabbed non-Muslims after asking if they were Muslim not charged with hate crime"

Oakland County Prosecutor Jessica Cooper has given aid and comfort to the enemy.

17 posted on 02/21/2015 5:35:25 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: cripplecreek
I am also opposed to the idea of hate crimes as well.

If you strike someone without good reason (self defense for example) you have done wrong IMO and should be punished.I don't care how white the perp might be or how black the victim might be.I'd have no problem sending a white guy to death row for killing a black lesbian if the evidence supported such a verdict.I'd have no problem sending a white guy to jail for three (or maybe even six) months for giving a black lesbian a bloody nose...if the evidence supported such a verdict.What I *won't* do is send that white guy to prison for three/six months for the assault *plus* an extra year because she was black...or female...or a lesbian.

18 posted on 02/21/2015 5:37:28 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama;America's First "Third World" President)
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To: Junk Silver
"Hate crimes" are bullsh!t in my book. "Hate Crime" is a shiny, flexible bullshit label used by the liberals to downgrade the reality of anything perpetrated by a member of the "race, gender or religion of the day" (i.e., make the perp blameless, nothing to see here, move along); or committed against a member of the "race, gender or religion of the day", in which case the liberals will again disregard the real picture and judge the perpetrator as a monster.

"Hate crime law" needs to be abolished if it favors/protects one group over another.

19 posted on 02/21/2015 5:42:48 AM PST by fivecatsandadog ( IMPEACH THE TRAITOR. But don't loose your head over it.)
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To: fivecatsandadog

Only whites can be charged with hate crimes.


20 posted on 02/21/2015 5:43:40 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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