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Most Vaccines Should be Voluntary
Politico ^ | 02/02/2015 | Adam Lerner

Posted on 02/03/2015 7:15:43 AM PST by azkathy

Rand Paul: Most vaccines should be ‘voluntary’ By ADAM B. LERNER 2/2/15 2:42 PM EST Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) waded into the debate over vaccinations Monday, telling conservative talk show host Laura Ingraham that he thinks most vaccines should be “voluntary.” Paul, an ophthamologist and likely 2016 White House hopeful, expressed particular concern over mandatory vaccinations for sexually transmitted diseases. He criticized former Texas Gov. Rick Perry for his executive order mandating that Texas children receive the HPV vaccine. “I’m not anti-vaccine at all,” Paul said, but “I think that’s a personal decision.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/rand-paul-vaccines-114834.html#ixzz3QhA3J7zr

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To: kaila

Gardisal is one of the reasons that Govenor Goodhair (Perry) will never get my vote for president.


201 posted on 02/04/2015 6:20:27 AM PST by csivils
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To: Mamzelle
I'm old enough to have gotten measles. I'm old enough to remember when people didn't bring infants into places where disease might spread until they had time for their immune systems to develop.

I understand that in some cases measles can have horrible outcomes, but so can too much dependence on vaccines and pharmaceuticals.

There has to be a balance. I get it that some parents choose not to get the measles vaccination. What I don't get is why the gov has let the US be over-run by people who spread these diseases. And I don't like at all the media one-sided bullying instead of an honest discussion of which vaccines are really necessary, and what people and the government can do to thwart outbreaks of this and other diseases. And I don't like our being told that vaccines are 100% safe because it isn't true...nothing's 100% safe.

Keep in mind this is all going on not long after the gov made it a policy to bring people into the US with Ebola because our superior medical ability can handle it. It's all a bit hypocritical.

202 posted on 02/04/2015 7:00:08 AM PST by grania
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To: Enlightened1
but no we are going to worry about the measles that have killed 0 people over the last 10 years.

0? I wonder if that has something to do with so many Americans being immunized?

203 posted on 02/04/2015 11:50:54 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Boogieman

How does that work? If you have the real disease, your immune system will already be making antibodies. What good is injecting an attenuated version going to do?


204 posted on 02/04/2015 1:45:00 PM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Plummz

Just being exposed doesn’t mean you “have the disease”. There is usually a period of time where steps that can ramp up your immune response, such as vaccinations, can be quite effective in stopping or at least reducing the effects of an infection.


205 posted on 02/04/2015 1:48:55 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: dmz

Ever wonder what your state laws are regarding Vaccine Compliance/rights? Here’s a good link http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements.aspx


206 posted on 02/04/2015 1:54:53 PM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: grania
!) The media and the Admin is using "non-compliant" moms and dads as scapegoats for the masses of disease (JEB'S RELIGION OF LOVE)…I'm really ticked off, actually furious, about that, myself.

2) The HPV is problematic, and should not be compared to the MMRP vaccine. Parents should consider the HPV vaccine according to its merits and drawbacks, but not be forced or coerced into using it. Likewise: the meningitis vaccine now available and often recommended for college freshmen. I think that's a pretty good idea, too--but enough are getting the vaccine that your own unvaccinated child, when he goes off to college filled with germ, dirty dormitories, will have much less chance of contracting this debilitating illness, too.

3) Lawyers are making patsies of parents distraught over autism, using very poor science and very high emotion. The public health consequences will be dire if they succeed. May scorpions infest their tassel loafers.

4) None of these "childhood" ailments come alone. They often come with other pathologies…pneumonia, encephalitis, "brain fevers"--

5) Pause sometime, and be happy that we don't see little children in leg braces from polio. It was a very good thing, that polio vaccine. We are close to getting rid of it in the whole world..making it extinct. I am grateful.

207 posted on 02/04/2015 4:27:06 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: 1010RD

Measles are not a killer disease. Neither is chicken pox. Hepatitis-B is a sexually transmitted disease AFAIK. Why should the gov’t force parents to vaccinate for those?

CLose the fricking border first. Those unwashed and disease carrying illegals are a far bigger menace than above diseases.


208 posted on 02/04/2015 11:38:25 PM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

If Paul is a quack then so are all parents by your theory.
You do not value parents and parents. Such as shame.


209 posted on 02/04/2015 11:40:02 PM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I had measles, chicken pox and small pox as a kid. And I am still here in my 70’s. Blows your theory to smithereens.


210 posted on 02/04/2015 11:41:55 PM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: entropy12

Any parent who doesn’t get their children vaccinated on some looney idea that trace amounts of mercury and formaldehyde in them causes autism is a kook. I just hope their children don’t have to pay for their kooky parents beliefs.


211 posted on 02/05/2015 5:40:44 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: entropy12

Lots of kids died, too.


212 posted on 02/05/2015 5:41:13 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: entropy12

Imagine that....you survived as did I and many others. You also don’t have autism.


213 posted on 02/05/2015 6:21:30 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy
I agree that vaccines should be voluntary. If people give more weight to the hysterical shrieking of Jenny McCarthy than they do to several centuries' history of vaccines eliminated smallpox, polio, etc. all of the world, that's their lunacy and they have every right to it.

This also means that any and all institutions, including schools, have the right to deny services and participation to those who choose not to be vaccinated. You see, "voluntary" cuts both ways.

214 posted on 02/05/2015 8:04:06 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: entropy12

Which parents? You are aware that Rand Paul is open borders.


215 posted on 02/05/2015 10:31:33 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: entropy12
You should be free to swing your fist to your heart's content, but that freedom ends when another person's face begins. You (and your kids) should be free to get measles, smallpox, and polio to your heart's content as well, but that doesn't give you the right to put other at risk.

A simple solution: you have the right not to vaccinate. Schools, private or public, and for that matter any other organizations, businesses, agencies, and any other entities have the right not to admit or employ those who aren't vaccinated.

216 posted on 02/05/2015 10:46:28 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Yes, that is also my thinking.

Vaccines should be upto the parents.

Whether to allow non-vaccinated kids should up to the tax supported public schools.


217 posted on 02/05/2015 11:50:57 AM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: azkathy

Not only I do not have autism, I simply can not believe I feel so good physically and mentally in my 70’s. If I knew I was going to last this long, I would have taken even better care of myself in my brash younger years hahaha..


218 posted on 02/05/2015 11:52:45 AM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Do you blame every parent when a single mother’s kid grows up to be non-productive and many times a criminal? There are 100,000 such young adults get shot each year. Measles have a hard time killing 10 in a year. Keep perspective.

Life is never perfect. However freedom is paramount. Without it we are just living under tyranny.


219 posted on 02/05/2015 12:04:30 PM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: 1010RD

Not true. There are 100 shades of so called “Amnesty”.

I am for 2 year work permits for foreigners. The most prosperous country on earth has that exact system in place today, where every 6th citizen is a millionaire and unemployment is MINUS 40%. Yes I am talking about Singapore.


220 posted on 02/05/2015 12:10:10 PM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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