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Explosive New Tapes on Hillary and Libya Proves Incompetence of Secretary of State
Red State ^ | 1/29/2015 | Steven Ahle

Posted on 01/30/2015 4:39:27 AM PST by HomerBohn

Top Pentagon officials and a Denis Kucinich do distrusted Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, they opened their own dialogue with the Libyan regime. Their communications with the Gadhafi regime was an effort to avoid war. Tapes of conversations between them and the Gadhafi regime were found in Tripoli. The authenticity of the tapes have been verified by the participants on the tapes reveal confidential conversations with Gadhafi’s son and another top official in Libya. The tapes have been reviewed by the Washington Times.

The tapes show that in unfiltered conversations with top Libyan leaders, that criticisms of Hillary were common. Libyan officials claims she had tunnel vision and they were forced to deny false allegations leveled at them by Clinton. The tapes show also that Hillary ignored the US intelligence community that had doubts about the narrative given at the time. That led the US into the conflict where Obama gave air cover to Al Qaeda.

An American intermediary sent directly by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to the Libyan government and who’s name has been withheld told Libyans officials:

“You should see these internal State Department reports that are produced in the State Department that go out to the Congress. They’re just full of stupid, stupid facts.”

The intermediary told the Libyans that the State Department was controlling what was being reported on the Libyan situation. And remember, the intermediary said that information was full of “stupid facts”. It was at the time of the Arab Spring and Hillary reported that the Libyan regime was going to start a program of genocide and insisted it be stopped before it began. No solid evidence is reported as being given to back up Hillary’s theories.

Gadhafi’s son Seif, spoke directly to Rep Kucinich and told him:

“It was like the WMDs in Iraq. It was based on a false report. Libyan airplanes bombing demonstrators, Libyan airplanes bombing districts in Tripoli, Libyan army killed thousands, etc., etc., and now the whole world found there is no single evidence that such things happened in Libya.”

Seif also told Kucinich that the trouble in Libya was not from their citizens but from radical Islamists trying to set up an Islamic state. We now know this to be absolutely true also.

Kucinich who challenged Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton for the presidential nomination is quoted (To the Washington Times on the tapes) as saying:

“I had facts that indicated America was headed once again into an intervention that was going to be disastrous. What was being said at the State Department — if you look at the charge at the time — it wasn’t so much about what happened as it was about what would happen. So there was a distortion of events that were occurring in Libya to justify an intervention which was essentially wrong and illegal.”

So, Obama in making the decision to help Al Qaeda in their battle against Gadhafi, chose to ignore facts from the Pentagon and intelligence officials and acted on Hillary’s conjecture. This led directly to the events at Benghazi, where four Americans were murdered, including the ambassador, Chris Stevens. It also explains why Obama found it necessary to cover up the fact that it was a terrorist attack and not a demonstration against a twelve minute internet video.

On August 24th of that year, Kucinich wrote a letter to the White House and the State Department which included:

“I have been contacted by an intermediary in Libya who has indicated that President Muammar Gadhafi is willing to negotiate an end to the conflict under conditions which would seem to favor Administration policy.”

Kucinich said neither Obama or Clinton answered his letter. Now, the question that must be asked is why? Any agreement that would have been acceptable to Obama would include Gadhafi stepping down and turning the country over to civilian leaders. That seems reasonable enough. Why wouldn’t Obama agree to something like that immediately? What if he didn’t want civilians in charge?

The Washington Times reached out to Clinton for comment but her team refused to comment on the tapes.

Hillary was the most vocal person advocating war in Libya. She was joined by French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican, and her successor as secretary of state, John F. Kerry. LOL A bunch of losers. The opposition nwas made up mostly of Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

While Hillary was spewing lies about Libya being about to bring down genocide on it’s on people was highly disputed within the intelligence community because such an act would mobilize countries against Libya.

Hillary in 2016. Instead of a four year term, I suggest 25 to life.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 2016election; benghazi; election2016; hillarylibya; hitlery; libya; libyawar
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To: HomerBohn
So how many 3am calls did Hillary receive as Secretary of State?

Not counting the ones to come bail out her philandering husband...

21 posted on 01/30/2015 5:10:59 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Who knows? So many things to hide from.......


22 posted on 01/30/2015 5:11:25 AM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
... clearly not predictive of the ability of someone to think on their feet in a real world context.

I still think they should both be waterboarded to see if they know anything.

23 posted on 01/30/2015 5:19:51 AM PST by HomerBohn (God is just, but his justice cannot sleep forever!)
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To: HomerBohn

bttt


24 posted on 01/30/2015 5:20:26 AM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: Steven Tyler

As I stated on another thread, Carter was the most inept occupant of the White Hut, but Obozo takes the cake for being the most evil, sociopath who is in the same league as Mao, Hitler, Stalin and Nero.

What a revolting development for America: Since Calvin Coolidge we’ve had only one president who truly had the Constitution and the American people at heart.


25 posted on 01/30/2015 5:24:02 AM PST by HomerBohn (God is just, but his justice cannot sleep forever!)
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To: HomerBohn

I am sure Trey Gowdy is on top of this one and has this data to pursue questioning of Hillary on these topics /sarc big time


26 posted on 01/30/2015 5:24:32 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: HomerBohn

It’s a repeat of the same story that was concocted by the Clintons as an excuse to bomb the crap out of the Serbs in Kosovo.


27 posted on 01/30/2015 5:26:35 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: HomerBohn

I am certain that the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of these tapes.


28 posted on 01/30/2015 5:33:44 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: HomerBohn

Why would Hillary lie? Cui Bono. Find her moneymen and you find her policy positions. Work backwards.


29 posted on 01/30/2015 5:34:15 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Jess Kitting
Can't they afford a proofreader over at Red State?

I really struggled with reading this article.

How about this run on sentence?

While Hillary was spewing lies about Libya being about to bring down genocide on it’s on people was highly disputed within the intelligence community because such an act would mobilize countries against Libya.

The author should have used "its own" instead of "it's on".

And this:

The opposition nwas made up mostly of

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I appreciate writer for sharing this, but it was horribly written.

30 posted on 01/30/2015 5:51:46 AM PST by Preachin' (I stand with many voters who will never vote for a pro abortion candidate.)
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To: eartick

This was on Fox last night... can’t remember if it was on Greta or Megan Kelly’s show, but I thought as I was watching it that it could become a real bombshell, if only it gets out to a wide audience.


31 posted on 01/30/2015 5:52:15 AM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: HomerBohn
I've heard Libya was starting it's own gold-based banking system via Gaddafi and that just didn't fly with the powers that be.
32 posted on 01/30/2015 5:53:09 AM PST by Rennes Templar (New name for Boehner: The Caveman)
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To: milagro

Btw...they played the tapes, and it showed how reluctant the Pentagon was to believe all the rreports about Gaddafi . They knew the danger of taking him out,and letting the Arab Spring “bloom” in Libya. But the WH and State were hell bent on taking Gaddafi out. Very interesting segment. ..hope more comes out soon.


33 posted on 01/30/2015 6:00:15 AM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: milagro
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.” ― Marcus Tullius Cicero
34 posted on 01/30/2015 6:11:23 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: HomerBohn

I think it was worse than incompetence, something closer to treason and human rights violation.


35 posted on 01/30/2015 6:13:31 AM PST by expat2
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To: Preachin'

Yep. How can we trust a reporter to accurately quote what someone said, when they can’t compose a sentence?


36 posted on 01/30/2015 6:20:47 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: HomerBohn
“It was like the WMDs in Iraq. It was based on a false report...

Except the New York Times just reported there was all manner of WMDs in Iraq but the Bush Admin. covered it up.

37 posted on 01/30/2015 6:24:31 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

“So, is this why she has disappeared?”


She’s disappeared for plastic surgery and to prep for the campaign.


38 posted on 01/30/2015 6:31:23 AM PST by Author Mike Carnegie (If you like 8 years of Hugo Obama, you're going to love 8 years of Fidel Hillary)
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To: Jess Kitting

It should read “SO mistrusted” in the first sentence, not do.


39 posted on 01/30/2015 6:37:04 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: grania

“A lot of what you don’t like about Kucinich is media manipulation. “

You obviously have never lived in Cleveland. He’s even kookier than what the media says.


40 posted on 01/30/2015 6:40:28 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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