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CDC: “Possibility” that vaccines rarely trigger autism (AUDIO)
SharylAttkisson.com ^ | January 25, 2015 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 01/26/2015 5:27:28 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: CAluvdubya

I don’t remember me or my siblings getting so many at one time either. Good advice for your upcoming grandbabies. CONGRATULATIONS!


61 posted on 01/26/2015 7:02:06 AM PST by momtothree
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The government and pharmaceutical industry have said evidence shows babies’ systems can easily handle the immune boost.

Telling statement, given his admission of he & his colleagues' 'omission'.

The issue is endemic; THAT is the real problem. Show me a true government statistic & I'll show you a bridge at a bargain deal.

62 posted on 01/26/2015 7:03:07 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: momtothree

http://vec.chop.edu/service/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-schedule/history-of-vaccine-schedule.html


63 posted on 01/26/2015 7:04:14 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: momtothree

Thanks! We’re pretty excited! The girls are due about a week apart. Will be a fun summer.


64 posted on 01/26/2015 7:05:41 AM PST by CAluvdubya (<------- has now left CA for NV, where God and guns have not been outlawed! "The Miracle of America")
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To: Crazieman

They were. The Scott County Health department (in Iowa) had press releases stating the the fact. It was in the town I live in, and was in a local preschool and elementary school.

The Health department said that there as a probable unvacinated but non symptomatic (or non reported) case that was the index case. All twelve kids had cases to close together for one to the be index case. As far as I know, they never released who it was.

It was around May, 2011 if I remember right. One of the county nurses visited my daughter’s dance class to talk about it since many of her classmates had it.

In short, the vaccine was not 100% effective. The reported cases in my little town (I can PM you the town) were all between 3 and 8 years of age.

Now again, I have vaccinated my kids. But I also read the material. It does not protect 100%. Hence the spreading outbreak and shrilling on the internet.


65 posted on 01/26/2015 7:10:31 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Black Agnes
I live in a state where even suggesting your kid might not need the Hepatitis B vaccine at ONE DAY OLD will get a call to child services underway.

What state is this? We live in the People's Republic of New Jersey and just had a little girl about 10 months ago. Her pediatrician told the people in the nursery to hold the Hep B even before he came to talk to us.

His assessment was "Mom tested negative for Hep B. Unless you think the baby will be getting tattoos, sharing needles, or engaging in risky sexual behavior in the next few years, she doesn't need it."

For the record, we are vaccinating her, on the doc's recommended schedule, and one at a time.

66 posted on 01/26/2015 7:11:32 AM PST by billakay
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

they’re not sure which it will effect... but i’d guess it’s 1 in 68


67 posted on 01/26/2015 7:18:38 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: redgolum
Well, considering the vaccines are not as effective as advertised (we had a measles outbreak locally two years ago, and every documented case was vaccinated), some parents are opting to pass on the shots.

No vaccine is "advertised" as being 100% effective. They don't have to be, and everyone knows they aren't. There will always be people for whom a vaccine is not effective, and also people who cannot be vaccinated for whatever reason (too young, compromised immune system, etc.). The whole point of vaccination (from a public health perspective) is herd immunity. Vaccinate the whole population and even the people for whom the vaccine is not effective won't get sick because the virus won't be running around in the population. Of course, when people start refusing the vaccine for some nonsensical reasons, then the herd immunity is less effective and we see outbreaks of the virus.

This really isn't a complicated concept. Does it really need to be said in every one of these damn threads?

68 posted on 01/26/2015 7:21:32 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Crazieman

Is your healthcare a collective choice (made by government), to be made for the “good of the society”, or a personal individual decision made for your best possible personal health?

Which do you think it is?


69 posted on 01/26/2015 7:24:32 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery ea)
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To: billakay

This was MS.

I don’t know any pediatricians who will allow your child to skip their shots around here. I know a few (as in 2) who will allow you to ‘delay’ them.

It’s been 10 years since my oldest was born so things may be different now.

I asked the neonatologist and nurse at the time why my kid had to have the hepb vax since I’d been tested negative for it and wasn’t a prostitute or iv drug user.

The nurse didn’t answer my question.

Instead she merely asked if I was refusing the shot. And if so did I understand she was required by law to contact cps to initiate proceedings to remove my child to state care...

I understand now that hospitals get bonuses from insurace for 100% compliance with the neonatal hepv shot.


70 posted on 01/26/2015 7:25:57 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
Wow, personal attack much? Guess that’s all you got.

Hey, I tried scientific approach back then, and it got me no where.

Alert me when your directorate’s ‘solution’ doesn’t involve a vaccine grown in giant vats of extract of dead baby...

I dunno, depends if the alien Reptilian overlords allow us, you know the shapeshifters that look like humans when they contact us? They are the ones that they force us to eat aborted fetuses. It is part of the Demonic plan to make us Mordecai Servants.

71 posted on 01/26/2015 7:26:44 AM PST by Lazamataz (With friends like Boehner, we don't need Democrats. -- Laz A. Mataz, 2015)
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To: Lazamataz

Are you anti abortion.

Yes or no.


72 posted on 01/26/2015 7:27:57 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
Physical appearance of the Ciakar royalty: Scaled color white or beige or Dark greenish brown . Height 18-25 ft, weight: 1400-2500 pounds. Wing appendages and a tail is usually seen, very large golden yellow reddish to blue eyes, with vertical slit pupils.Worker/warrior: Scaled white red blue brown or blackish green, tailless, 4-12 ft tall, large slanted yellow reddish eyes, vertical slit pupils.The Draconians aren't all one and the same, they can be broken into at least seven categories: Draconian Genetic sub races: workers, scientists, commanders ,warriors ,Priests ,Engineers ,officers weight: 500-1000 pounds. For the most part, we are dealing with another species that is humanoid in shape, but Reptilian in heritage. Their leader elite are the "Draco". They even have special "wings", which are flaps of skin, supported by long ribs. These can be folded back against the body. They are also known as the "Dragon Race" and their symbology usually includes the Winged Serpent. There are elements of their species which do not have wings - the "warrior caste" and "scientists" have none.They are all 'cold blooded' and have to have a balanced environment to maintain body temperature. The 7 to 10 feet tall "warrior caste" of the species can bury themselves in the ground and wait long periods of time in order to ambush their enemy. If need be they can survive on one very large meal every few weeks or even once a year and they are very muscular and aggressive. they are apparently feared throughout the Galaxy for their fighting abilities. As a species, they are well suited for space travel due to their ability to hibernate. These reptilians have scales which protect them from moisture loss. They have no sweat glands.The scales (scutes) are much larger on their backs, making the skin waterproof. The scales elsewhere on the body are more flexible. They have three fingers with an opposing thumb and some others have six fingers and a opposing thumb that have sharp claws. The eyes are catlike and large. They have twin nostrils at the end of a short stubby muzzle. They are mostly meat eaters.The mouth is more like a slit, but they have teeth which are differentiated into incisors, canines, and molars.Their feet have three toes and one recessed fourth that is toward the back side of their ankle. The winged Ciakar/Draco have white or beige scales or Dark greenish brown they also have very long tails and have horns and they look like a dragon the Draconians live in hydrogen based ecosystems on desert planets the Draconians survive best on desert planets and they like it hot. the Draconians breathe hydrogen and are very large they are 14 to 22 feet tall and have a large liver and two hearts under there armpits and have the strength of 12 to 16 men and are very hard to kill and can weigh up to 1,800 pounds and eat human flesh. The average life span of the Draconians extends from 1,800 to 4,100 years of age. The ones that live as long as 4,100 years are the royal line of the Draconians the winged Ciakars.
73 posted on 01/26/2015 7:33:49 AM PST by Lazamataz (With friends like Boehner, we don't need Democrats. -- Laz A. Mataz, 2015)
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To: Lazamataz

Oddly enough, that’s not an answer to the question.

Do you support abortion, or not?

It’s a yes or no question.

It’s not that difficult a question.

Truly it isn’t.

Here, I’ll go first. I am unashamedly pro life, I do not support abortion.

Now it’s your turn.


74 posted on 01/26/2015 7:38:00 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Doesn’t change anything though, we still don’t know what causes autism, and admitting a “theoretical possibility” doesn’t support the claims of the anti-vaxxers that vaccines cause autism.

This stuff was already known about as well, so it’s not a new revelation.


75 posted on 01/26/2015 7:38:35 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Black Agnes

Encyclopedia: Reptilian humanoid

Reptilian humanoids are a recurring theme in mythology, fiction, and especially science fiction, fringe theories, and conspiracy theories. They are described as individuals or races of intelligent or otherwise highly developed reptilian-like beings. They are also often called reptoids, reptiloids or dinosauroids. They also appear in a few fringe New Age and neofascist ideas.

No theory that such creatures actually exist or have ever existed has been generally accepted by mainstream, conventional science, and they are usually relegated to fringe science or pseudoscience. Despite this, there are various theories that have been offered on their nature, where they came from, what their intentions are, and so on.

Ancient references to reptiles and serpents

Several ancient peoples all over the world have described reptilian beings. There are historical accounts about reptiloids devouring human children, and also tales of Serpents of Wisdom enlightening Humankind (such as the story of Gukumatz). Cecrops, first King of Athens was said to have been half man, half snake.

In India, extensive histories exist regarding the Naga, a Reptilian race said to live underground and interact with the kings and others on the surface. These beings were said to have once lived on a continent in the Pacific Ocean which sank beneath the waves. This is a recurring story throughout the world. Indian histories also refer to a Reptilian race called the “Sarpa” who founded civilisation, creating the cannibalistic Dravidians, being the source of the Hindu caste system (based upon a Draconian caste hierarchy, apparently), and demanded human sacrifice. A Nordic race was said to have created the Aryans, and when the two peoples combined, they formed the beginnings of Indian civilisation. Ancient Sanscrit texts also refer to spacecraft and aircraft called Vimana. Nuclear debris has been found in regions said to be destroyed by ‘the gods’ in Kashmir and other locations throughout the Indian peninsula.

The Hopi refer to a race of Reptilians called the Sheti, or Snake-Brothers, who live underground. The Cherokee and other American Indian peoples also refer to Reptilian races, as well as their origins in Atlantis The Chinese, Japanese and Europeans extensively speak throughout their history of beings such as Dragons (both physical and non-physical forms thereof), Dracul (devil-dragon humanoids), Vampires, Kappa, and others. The first Emperor of China, Huang-Ti, was said to be part Dragon, and was said to be born looking like a Reptilian. It was also said that his mother was impregnated by a beam of light emanating from the star Alpha Draconis, which Stewart Swerdlow and others claim is the home star system of the Draco Reptilian species.

The Mayans speak of a Reptilian species, referred to often as “Iguana-Men”, who descended from the sky to take control of their civilisation, teaching them the art of pyramid building as well as demanding human sacrifice.

Throughout the world, in apparently unconnected societies, the belief pervades that a Reptilian race lives beneath the Earth and interacts with the surface. In most cases another race, tall and “Nordic” in appearance, is described. These were the “Elves” of European lore. The Reptilians were often described as having a caste hierarchy, in which the highest caste was winged. This correlates with information from current abductees, contactees and former government employees who have disclosed information regarding alien interaction with Earth-governments.

In Africa, the Zulu shamans bear extensive esoteric knowledge of a race of reptilians who they say control the Earth—called the Chitahuri. They also have accounts of a Reptilian race who created Blacks and used them to work their gold mines, extremely similar to the accounts described in the Sumerian tablets.

In Sumeria ten thousand tablets have been found and translated which refer to an alien race which created a race of humans to work as slaves in their mines in Africa. This race is called the “Anunnaki”, or the “Abbennakki”, and it specifically states that the “Black-headed” people of Sumeria were created by these beings. The royalty was said to be a combination between “Dragons” and humans.

In China and Japan underground bases where the Dragon Kings live are referred to, as well as the lineage of humans from a race of ‘Dragons’. (there are also many other reptilian races referred to, such as the Kappa).

In Australia the aborigines speak of a reptilian race which lives underneath the Earth and governs over men. The Aboriginal chiefs have spoken of going into the Earth where these beings resided. There they claim there is extensive technology. The Aborigines say that they are descended from a race of dragon-humans that once lived on an enormous continent that spanned the entire Pacific ocean, and that most of it sank beneath the waves in ancient times, but that Australia is a remnant of it, and this is why there are so many reptilian animals there.

In Pythagoras’ life there may have been events related to serpents, particularly winged and speaking serpents, as well as a massive beast called Python, a giant serpent for which he may have been named. Timothy Leary, Robert Anton Wilson and Philip K. Dick all have called themselves Pythagoreans. However, Wilson is known for stating various forms of conspiracy theory (he is also a high-level initiate of Aleister Crowley’s Ordo Templi Orientis), Dick’s possible mental illness is covered in more detail below, and Leary is widely known to have consumed copious amounts of hallucinogens.

In the Middle-East, Reptilian beings ranging from certain Jinn to Dragons and Serpent-Men, have been spoken of since ancient times. In the Bible, the Nephilim are alluded to as being Reptilian, and in the related Book of Jasher, a serpent race is described. King Og of Bashan, a reputed Repha (giant) is called a “Serpent”, and Bashan itself means “Serpent” in Ancient Hebrew. This could refer to the Sumerian-influenced worship of serpents and dragon-like creatures which pervaded the Canaanite people before the Israelites entered that region. The Israelites recorded that the former inhabitants of Canaan were “Serpents”, “Repha’im”, “Nephilim” and “Anakim”.

Procopius of Caesaria, arguably the most important historical source on the Justinian period in Byzantine history, recounted in his Secret History that Emperor Justinian and his wife, Theodora, were “Dracul” (a word meaning both Dragon and Devil), and that several people had reportedly seen them either shapeshift into demonic-like beings, or associating with non-human beings, particularly one referred to as “The King of the Devils”, a being most often portrayed as reptilian, with horns and wings.

Many ancient peoples worshipped a serpent-Goddess called El or Hel, which was considered the God-Goddess of the Underworld, the Moon, and Venus. These three locations (underground, the Moon, and Venus) are all described by abductees, former covert government employees, and the like, as being major bases for a reptilian species from the Draco star system who have been involved with this planet for at least two million years.


76 posted on 01/26/2015 7:39:25 AM PST by Lazamataz (With friends like Boehner, we don't need Democrats. -- Laz A. Mataz, 2015)
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To: Lazamataz

You are suspiciously reluctant to ‘out’ yourself as pro life.

I can think of two reasons:

1. You support abortion.

2. You are afraid you’ll be fired or denied promotion if you publically state you don’t support abortion.

If 1, you are a reprehensible human. If 2, you’re just a coward.


77 posted on 01/26/2015 7:45:03 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Modern claims

Erich von Daniken theorises that extraterrestrials have influenced human history for millennia, and that they may have influenced human evolution.

Philip K. Dick, a science fiction writer, wrote about contact with three-eyed amphibious beings from Sirius and their connection to the Soviets and the Illuminati. This was described in his book, VALIS. PKD claimed to have connected these creatures to the Nommo, a mythological belief held by the Dogon tribe of Mali. It is a subject of some debate as to whether or not PKD was suffering from temporal lobe epilepsy. His wife allegedly claimed that he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at one point in his life. It is unknown whether his reptilian beliefs were due to a brain disorder, the ingestion of pain killers, his fondness for methamphetamine and entheogens, or a combination of all three.

Christine Fitzgerald, a confidante of Diana, Princess of Wales, claims that Diana told her that the Royal Family had a connection to Reptilian aliens, and that they could shapeshift.

Sir Laurence Gardner, a Jacobite Genealogist, Historian, Knight, and holder of many other titles (which some are sceptical of the validity of), claims that a “Dragon Bloodline”, a “Graal”, was created in ancient Sumeria when reptilian aliens called “Anunnakki” descended upon the region and created a royal bloodline through genetic engineering.

David Icke claims that people see reptilian humanoids or dinosauroids, and that reptilian species are the force behind a worldwide conspiracy directed at the manipulation and control of humanity. According to Icke, hypothetical dinosauroids resemble one type of reptilian entity that people see during alleged encounters. Icke theorises that the reptilians evolved on this planet from dinosaurs or other reptile-like ancestors, and were the original tool-making race to evolve on Earth. Like most conspiracy theories, falsification of Icke’s hypotheses is nearly impossible, but Icke continues to sell books and give speaking engagements based on concepts from the New Age and neofascism.

Timothy Leary claimed to have contact with three-eyed beings from Sirius.

Credo Mutwa, a Zulu shaman, claims that the Zulu people have known of a reptilian species called the Chitauli for centuries. He is the official historian of the Zulu people. He mentions amphibious beings from Sirius in his book, Song of the Stars.

Cathy O’Brien, a victim of CIA MKULTRA mind-control, claims to have seen George Bush shapeshift into a Reptilian being. She rationalised this as potentially being a holographic illusion.

Paul Shockley, a self-professed psychic, also speaks of malevolent reptilian beings. However, he explains that he does not believe that all reptilians are malevolent, and that there are benevolent members of this species as well.

Zecharia Sitchin, an archaeologist and linguist specialising in the Sumerian and Hebrew languages, claims that an ancient race of extraterrestrials, the Anunnaki, genetically engineered the original humans, and that they probably still exist in some form or another, with some degree of influence over humankind. These beings are speculated by Sitchin to be either reptilian, quasi-reptilian, or amphibious, from ancient description.

Stewart Swerdlow, a gifted mentalist, claims to possess extensive knowledge of alien intervention in Earth-human society, and describes in detail the activities of a Reptilian race called the Draco, originating in the Draco star system. He also mentions a more benevolent Reptilian race called the Abbennakki, which, he says, created the Black race in Africa. He claims that this is supported by ancient Sumerian tablets, as well as the histories of the indigenous peoples of Africa, such as the Zulu, as well as physical evidence such as ancient mines which have been discovered by the Anglo-American company, dating to 60,000 years B.C.

Prince Nicholas de Vere claims to be descended from an “unbroken Dragon-Bloodline” originating in Ancient Sumeria when an interdimensional Reptilian race created the first blueblood humans, the “Aryans” as he calls them.

Robert Anton Wilson writes about the Illuminati in the Illuminatus trilogy and other books. The book,Cosmic Trigger: The Final Secret of the Illuminati describes his drug-induced experiences with three-eyed beings from Sirius.

Joking References to Reptilians

On September 12, 2003, during the provincial election campaign in Ontario, Canada, a press release disseminated by the Ontario Progressive Conservative Party contained a line at the end that referred to rival Ontario Liberal Party leader Dalton McGuinty as an evil reptilian kitten-eater from another planet. The release was not intended seriously, but did no good for the Conservative party campaign.
Peculiar Mentions of Reptilians

An article appeared in the Chicago Tribune, March 1, 1995, regarding an event in which George Bushnell, head of the American Bar Association, called the Republicans “Reptilian Bastards”. Quote from the article: “The atmosphere in the litigation debate is getting as poisonous as the atmosphere in, well, litigation itself. Eighty-two House members have now called on George Bushnell, Jr., president of the 370,000-lawyer American Bar Association, to resign after he described the Republican leadership of Congress as “those reptilian bastards.”


78 posted on 01/26/2015 7:52:23 AM PST by Lazamataz (With friends like Boehner, we don't need Democrats. -- Laz A. Mataz, 2015)
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To: Lazamataz

Surprising.

I’d always thought you pro life.


79 posted on 01/26/2015 7:55:56 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Conspiracy theories

There are many conspiracy theories centered around, or at least involving, extraterrestrials of reptilian lineage. Many of these posit that the so-called Greys (fictional creatures from another planet in the 1977 film Close Encounters of the Third Kind, since adopted as the archetypal extraterrestrial) are in fact reptiles, and should be categorized as “Reptoids”.

David Icke claims, based on his exploration of genealogical connections to European royalty, that many presidents of the United States have been reptilian humanoids. In his view, United States foreign policy after September 11 is the product of a reptilian conspiracy to enslave humanity, with George W. Bush as its key player. (See also Bush family conspiracy theory.) Some conspiracy theorists claim to have worked out a “dichotomy of axes” involved in hypothetical interplanetary and intergalactic conflict, and place the reptilians in an evil “Draconian” “axis”, while humans are one of the species that belongs in an opposing “Evadamic” “axis”. Several other entities and parties have been placed into this conspiracy theory, with some players who switch allegiances between Draconian and Evadamic.

The Nazi-friendly, subterranean flying saucer-riding super race depicted in Vril: The Power of the Coming Race is sometimes associated with accounts of reptilian humanoids.

None of these “theories” have ever been validated by any scientifically credible research.
Reptilian humanoids in fiction

The Conan the Barbarian and King Kull stories by Robert E. Howard pitted their heroes on occasion against a race of serpent people; this race’s background was greatly expanded upon during the development of the Cthulhu Mythos, with a history stretching into the dinosaur era.

Ancient reptilian races known as the Silurians and Sea Devils appear in the Doctor Who series.

Presumably in reference to Credo Mutwa’s Chitauli and many of the conspiracies mention above, Marvel Comics’ The Ultimates written by Mark Millar and with art by Bryan Hitch features updated versions of the villainous Skrull race called Chitauri. They have shape-changing abilities and have orchestrated various conspiricaies to exterminate the human race, the most successful of these plots was the rise of the Nazi party in Germany.

In the television series V, the aliens are reptilian creatures who disguise themselves in a complete covering that resembles human skin.

Reptilian humanoids in games

In the fictional Dungeons & Dragons fantasy universe, there are several species of reptilian, amphibian and fish-like humanoids. These include lizard-men (or lizard-folk), the weak, dog-like kobolds, the serpentine yuan-ti, the aquatic sahuagin, locathah and kuo-toa, and various types of half-dragons such as the draconian.

Lizardmen are a prominent race in the Warhammer Fantasy Battle wargame.

In the popular video game X-COM, Reptoids, or “Snakemen”, are the foot soldiers for an alliance of genetically altered extra-terrestrial beings bent on the subjugation and control of Earth.


80 posted on 01/26/2015 7:58:02 AM PST by Lazamataz (With friends like Boehner, we don't need Democrats. -- Laz A. Mataz, 2015)
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