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CDC: “Possibility” that vaccines rarely trigger autism (AUDIO)
SharylAttkisson.com ^ | January 25, 2015 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 01/26/2015 5:27:28 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: Triple; Crazieman

Well - which is it?

Is your healthcare a collective choice (made by government), to be made for the “good of the society”, or a personal individual decision made for your best possible personal health?


101 posted on 01/26/2015 1:58:46 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery ea)
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To: Lazamataz

Wrong end of the state! Clearkyvtge whistle works


102 posted on 01/26/2015 5:47:53 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TigerClaws

why is the disease worse than the side effects of the vaccination?


103 posted on 01/26/2015 7:14:18 PM PST by porter_knorr
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This article is *extremely* dishonest and irresponsible. Baby Hannah did *not* become autistic, and there is no indication whatsoever that vaccines cause autism, or that there is any mechanism possible by which a vaccine can cause a genetic disease.

Baby Hannah has a mitochondrial disorder--another genetic disease. From the description of her symptoms, it sounds like she may have a form of Leigh's disease. It is possible that vaccines triggered its onset, because the body sees vaccines the same way it sees active pathogens. Since the body always responds more drastically to an actual pathogen than it does to a vaccine against that pathogen, the mitochondrial disorder would almost certainly have manifested after *any* febrile infectious disease.

Wikipedia excerpt:
The symptoms of Leigh's disease typically begin within a year of a child's birth and lead to death within a span of several years,[1] though symptoms can appear anytime between the ages of three months and two years or very rarely in adolescence or adulthood.[3] Occasionally, Leigh syndrome can begin to develop in utero. Symptoms are often first seen after a triggering event that taxes the body's energy production, such as an infection or surgery. The general course of Leigh's disease is one of rapid developmental regression.

Unfortunately, posting this article has led the uninformed antivaxxers to fill this thread with all kinds of unscientific nonsense. It would take all day to go through and post corrections to the nonsense.

104 posted on 01/27/2015 3:57:55 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: petercooper
9 shots in one day? Jeesh.

The quantity of antigens in those shots is insignificant to the quantity of antigens that a baby normally encounters every single day, as it crawls all over the germ-laden floor and puts its hands and everything it can pick up into its mouth.

Most microorganisms cannot bypass the immune system. Vaccines protect us against a handful of microorganisms that have evolved to evade our immune system and make us sick. Vaccines are designed to show our body only the parts of the microorganism that trigger a durable immune response, without subjecting our body to the stress (with attendant tissue damage and death in some cases) of the actual disease.

105 posted on 01/27/2015 4:02:46 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Black Agnes
Most people got the measles.

Most of them recovered.

My parents got measles.

So did all their friends and siblings.

They don’t know anyone who actually DIED from measles.

Measles causes less than 0.1% fatality in countries with good health care systems, but in Africa where health care systems are poor and people live in dirty environments, the death rate is 5-10%. Even without fatality, measles can cause permanent brain damage.

Just because you personally never encountered someone who died of measles does not mean it never kills. It just means that the odds are against you knowing that 1 in 1,000 fatality. Since we have widespread vaccination, you are unlikely to ever meet 1,000 people who have measles.

Since I am military, my medical records are online. Right now, they say I need a measles vaccination. I do not understand this, since I already had one 30 years ago. However, if my doctor concurs, I will get one. I will also ask for the shingles vaccination at the same time.

106 posted on 01/27/2015 4:14:29 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: GraceG
3 different diseases that the immune system has to have a response to at the SAME time!

Your immune system responds to thousands of microorganisms every day. If it weren't for that immune system, you'd be like Bubble Boy, who could not live outside of a sterile environment.

Pathogens are different than most microorganisms, since they have evolved mechanisms to evade normal immune function so as to invade your body. Vaccines provide a handful of antigens--the parts of pathogens that trigger the immune system to go into long-term defense mode--without actually exposing the body to the dangerous active pathogens.

The shot then is deliberately causing the person’s immune system to go into overdrive!

No FDA approved vaccine causes the immune system to go into "overdrive." When the immune system is overactive, it causes a condition called "cytokine storm." Cytokine storm typically happens when you encounter a pathogen for which you have absolutely no pre-existing immunity. When your body encounters a previously unknown pathogen, it kicks into high gear. The immune response is exaggerated even more by the fact that in the first few days after exposure to that pathogen, the pathogen basically reproduces without constraint because your body is one giant food source. This causes your body to ramp up the immune response to dangerous levels. Cytokine storm kills; it is thought to be responsible for the high death rate of the 1918 influenza.

Pathogens in live vaccines cannot reproduce so they cannot cause disease. Pathogens in inactivated vaccines are dead. Many vaccines don't contain whole pathogens, but only the parts that invoke the immune response. In any case, the immune response to vaccines is very muted as compared to the immune response when the body encounters a live, growing pathogen.

107 posted on 01/27/2015 4:29:39 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: momtothree
My son’s response was “Doc, my cervix is just fine. Thank you”.

HPV causes cancers of any tissue lined with mucosal epithelial cells--like the anus, throat, mouth, and penis. Boys are encouraged to get the vaccine not just to prevent them from spreading HPV, but also to protect them from cancer.

HPV is responsible for about 5% of all cancers. About 70% of all HPV related cancers are caused by HPV 16 and 18, the strains targeted by the vaccine.

108 posted on 01/27/2015 4:37:42 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

“Even without fatality, measles can cause permanent brain damage.”

If true, why are we injecting live measles virus into infants?


109 posted on 01/27/2015 5:33:37 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Thanks for posting this. It has some good info and anytime the government settles and says shut up, makes you say hmmmm.


110 posted on 01/27/2015 11:50:04 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: Lazamataz
Your posts are quite interesting, long, laborious, tortured and completely off topic. Hmmmm where do you work? Seems kind of Gruber like actually.
111 posted on 01/27/2015 12:51:32 PM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

I’m a pimp.


112 posted on 01/27/2015 12:55:55 PM PST by Lazamataz (With friends like Boehner, we don't need Democrats. -- Laz A. Mataz, 2015)
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To: Lazamataz

That’s good to know, I thought you worked for the CDC/Government. I guess they need Pimps too.


113 posted on 01/27/2015 1:32:39 PM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

Not me! I just know some people there, this being Atlanta and all, and me being with a healthcare-related company.


114 posted on 01/27/2015 1:37:26 PM PST by Lazamataz (With friends like Boehner, we don't need Democrats. -- Laz A. Mataz, 2015)
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To: Black Agnes
If true, why are we injecting live measles virus into infants?

A live attenuated vaccine is incapable of causing disease in a person with a normal immune system.

As far as I know, wild measles virus is never injected into infants or anyone else.

115 posted on 01/27/2015 4:51:21 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: redgolum; petercooper
The baby probably wasn't given nine different shots, but five shots for nine different diseases. (Still too many!)

When my children were little, those vaccinations were given in groups like this:

1 shot for measles, mumps, and rubella

1 shot for polio

1 shot for varicella

1 shot for diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus

1 shot for Haemophilus influenza

It wasn't unusual for multiple shots like those to be given to little children all in one doctor's visit. And yet the doctors would become annoyed by those of us who balked at our babies and toddlers receiving so many shots at once.

I always suspect that many of the people laughing at parents who refuse vaccinations for their children don't realize just how many shots are given to children today before they reach age two. When my children were little in the late 90's-early 2000's, they were expected to receive up to 19 shots (for 10 different diseases including booster shots) BY THE AGE OF 18 MONTHS. More shots were given at ages 4-6 and then at 11-12.

Now the number of required shots for babies/toddlers is even higher.

116 posted on 01/28/2015 7:52:17 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Crazieman

Is your healthcare a collective choice (made by government), to be made for the “good of the society”, or a personal individual decision made for your best possible personal health?

Which do you think it is?


117 posted on 01/28/2015 6:06:01 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery ea)
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