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Man Files Religious Discrimination Complaint Over Bakery’s Refusal to Make Anti-Gay Cake
reason.com ^ | 1/20/15 | Scott Shackford

Posted on 01/20/2015 2:18:24 PM PST by SoFloFreeper

It was only a matter of time before it actually happened. In Colorado, where Masterpiece Cakeshop has been cited by the state for refusing to make wedding cakes for gay couples, a man has filed a complaint with the state that a different bakery has refused to make him a cake, violating public accommodation laws. In this case, though, the man claims religious discrimination for a bakery's refusal to make a cake that's not quite so love-affirming.

...."He wanted us to write God hates …" she trails. "Just really radical stuff against gays."

"He wouldn't allow me to make a copy of the message, but it was really hateful," Marjorie adds. "I remember the words detestable, disgrace, homosexuality, and sinners."

The bakery says they didn't entirely refuse him service. They would make a cake for him and provide him a decorating bag with icing to decorate the cake himself. It wouldn't look as good obviously, but as Silva points out, it wouldn't require her to include a "hateful message crafted by her own hands."

Not good enough for this gentleman, who apparently kept coming back and asking over and over, which was a dumb thing of him to do. He eventually left for good, and then filed a complaint with Colorado's Department of Regulatory Agencies, which is now investigating Azucar Bakery just as they did Masterpiece Cakeshop.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: discrimination; homosexualagenda; law; sexuality
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To: SoFloFreeper

i’d just say for that level of customization, it will cost at least $10,00,000.


41 posted on 01/20/2015 6:15:45 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

these people ae just trying to file a nuisance lawsuit against a business they hate.

the solution is to offer whatever they are asking for under “custom services, deluxe packages, extra services,” etc, and set the price exorbitantly high. like in the millions. owners set their prices and can determine different levels of service.


42 posted on 01/20/2015 6:19:24 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: GeronL

I think anyone has the right not to make a “gay wedding” cake.

But I don’t think it’s sinful to do so, and thus I think it’s sad that some Christians are losing their businesses over their refusal to do it.


43 posted on 01/20/2015 7:13:46 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

They are not losing their business because they refuse to do it, they are losing their business because the BEAST demands it.


44 posted on 01/20/2015 7:15:06 PM PST by GeronL
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To: GeronL

What I mean is that they should go ahead and make the cakes. They are not the people who should be taking the bullet.


45 posted on 01/20/2015 7:36:34 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Jewbacca

This is no abuse of the current law, it isn’t.

It is equal application of a stupid law, and I’m glad this man has the fortitude to take on a Herculean task.


46 posted on 01/20/2015 7:48:46 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Are there any beliefs that you hold so strongly that you would stand up for them in the face of possibly losing your business?


47 posted on 01/20/2015 7:54:15 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: workerbee
He won’t get the time of day from a judge.

Doesn't matter.

Remember what Alinsky said about making your opposition play by their own rules. A charge of discrimination has been filed, and an investigation for discrimination must occur (indeed, the article states that it has already been initiated)

So, both the state and this bakery now have to invest time and resources into dealing with the investigation. Even a cursory one that results in a negative ruling is going to have respectable costs.

And if more, many more, of these discrimination complaints are filed, it WILL overwhelm the system.

That's how Alinsky said to do it. That's how the other side does it ...
48 posted on 01/20/2015 8:07:40 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: BlessedBeGod

I think she’s lying, since I think she’d have a pretty good idea what it said, plus, it doesn’t make sense to include those words on a cake, without a general idea what it said.


49 posted on 01/20/2015 9:22:31 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Wait, is he the next Pope?


50 posted on 01/20/2015 9:31:56 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Yes. If the alternative is committing a sin.

“Standing up” is not a term of art in moral theology.

The question isn’t “standing up.” The question is, Is it s SIN to make a “gay wedding” cake?

A pharmacist who sells contraceptives is DIRECTLY facilitating sodomy between two people. If he sells abortifacients, he is DIRECTLY facilitating murder.

A baker who bakes a cake with two little men on top is not providing MEANS equivalent to contraceptives or abortifacients. The cake is not a necessary means for the commission of sodomy.


51 posted on 01/20/2015 9:49:51 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Balding_Eagle

I don’t disagree with you; I think my original post was unclear.

Jewish people and Christians need to target homosexual and muslim businesses and set them up for equal treatment under this stupid law.


52 posted on 01/21/2015 6:48:55 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: SoFloFreeper

SCOTUS just ruled that a muslim can grow a beard in prison because of his religious beliefs, so how the hell can the courts rule that religious freedom can be ignored for homosexuals?

Good for the baker and anyone who speaks up against this perversion. I am sick of the crap on TV and in the media as if they are go lucky , happy, and joyful people who want to be left alone.
The homosexual woman I worked with was nothing short of disgusting. She was the typical in your face”this is my wife” Rosie o Donnell.

No one liked her and yet people had to keep quiet about her agenda for fear of being in trouble at work.


53 posted on 01/21/2015 6:52:10 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Arthur McGowan

What would one of those beliefs you hold be?


54 posted on 01/21/2015 6:59:28 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I just answered that question.

I would refuse to commit a sin in order to keep my business.

“Standing up” for a belief is not always obligatory. There is no obligation to put a sign in the window saying, “No Same-Sex Wedding Cakes.” I don’t think it’s a sin to make a “same-sex wedding” cake.

It is a sin to sell contraceptives, because to do so is directly to supply the means for acts of sodomy. It is a sin to sell abortifacients, for the same reason.


55 posted on 01/21/2015 7:06:46 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: workerbee

I don’t know. Is the judge who murdered Terri Schiavo still on the bench?


56 posted on 01/21/2015 7:57:18 AM PST by onedoug
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To: workerbee; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
He won’t get the time of day from a judge.

Likely not as while a bakery refusing to create a cake saying the almighty loves sodomites would be a case, liberal bias excludes that in this case.

And while it is comparable to the Masterpiece case, for that was a request for a special creation that in art and purpose was to honor what was repulsive to the owner - and an artist should not have to create anything a customer wants - yet libs will argue this was a prank and the artwork was of a decidedly provocative nature and purpose. As if the former case was not meant to be, but then again, liberal bias is made up by conservatives.

57 posted on 01/21/2015 6:58:39 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Just really radical stuff against gays.”
___________________________________________

homosexuals are a race ???


58 posted on 01/22/2015 4:56:38 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: SoFloFreeper

Hmmmmmmmmmm

He should have asked them to write something like

ONE MAN
ONE WOMAN
MAKES A MARRIAGE

Then when they refused he would have had a case...


59 posted on 01/22/2015 5:00:04 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: SoFloFreeper
Man Files Religious Discrimination Complaint Over Bakery’s Refusal to Make Anti-Gay Cake

Does such a thing REALLY exist??

60 posted on 01/22/2015 6:20:18 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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