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'Keep Your Religion in the Closet' Says NYT Editorialist
CharismaNews ^ | 1/19/2015 | Michael Brown

Posted on 01/19/2015 3:22:21 PM PST by xzins

"I support the right of people to believe what they do and say what they wish—in their pews, homes and hearts."

So says an influential New York Times journalist.

In other words, "Keep your religion in the closet."

In his Jan. 10 Times editorial, "Your God and My Dignity: Religious Liberty, Bigotry, and Gays," Frank Bruni writes, "I've been called many unpleasant things in my life, and I've deserved no small number of them. But I chafe at this latest label: A threat to your religious liberty."

He finds it "absurd" that the simple act of two men or two women joining together in "marriage" not only runs counter to our creed but actually runs roughshod over it. Yes, "the deference that many politicians show to such thinking is an example not of religion getting the protection it must but of religious people getting a pass that isn't warranted."

In what sense is this an unwarranted pass?

According to Bruni, who has a big problem with what he calls "religion's favored status" in America, when we refuse to participate in any aspect of same-sex unions, we are using our "religious beliefs ... as a fig leaf for intolerance." This would apply to a justice of the peace who refused to perform the ceremony to a photographer who refused to shoot the event.

Does he really think that the only reason we oppose redefining marriage is because of an unjustified, bigoted intolerance?

Is it only "intolerance" that believes that men were designed for women and women for men? Doesn't the mirror, not to mention the human reproductive system, confirm this?

Is it only "intolerance" that believes that it's best not to deprive a child of either a mother or father?

Is it only "intolerance" that refuses to believe that all of human civilization, until the last 15 years, has been wrong about the meaning of marriage? The many variations of marriage that have existed through the ages have all been based on male-female union, and for good reason.

And could it be that there is good reason that our sacred texts tell us that God forbids homosexual unions?

Why must it be "intolerance" that shapes our thinking?

The real intolerance is on the side of Bruni, who opposes religious liberty for individuals in the workplace, reminding us that Christians who refuse to participate in any aspect of same-sex "marriages" are following in the footsteps of "racists [who] used the same argument to try to perpetuate segregation."

Indeed, for Bruni we are "religious extremists." (Who would have imagined just a few short years ago that Christians who believed that marriage was the union of a man and woman would be branded "religious extremists" in a major publication?)

Referencing a florist, a baker and a photographer who were found guilty of discrimination for "refusing to serve customers having same-sex weddings," Bruni argues that "baking a cake, arranging roses, running an inn ... aren't religious acts, certainly not if the establishments aren't religious enclaves and are doing business with (and even dependent on) the general public."

Apparently he fails to understand that, as followers of Jesus, we are called to do everything—not just sacramental things—for the glory of God and therefore our faith colors every aspect of our lives (see 1 Cor. 10:31; Col. 3:23).

Bruni asks, "Would we be content to let a Muslim store owner who believes that a woman should always cover her hair refuse service to women who do not? Or a Mormon hairdresser who spurns coffee to turn away clients who saunter in with frappuccinos?"

He answers: "I doubt it. So why should a merchant whose version of Christianity condemns homosexuality get to exile gays and lesbians?"

First, we're not "exiling" gays and lesbians. We're simply asking for the right not to be forced into violating our deeply-held beliefs—and they are not some murderous, fanatical tenets. Instead, we're simply saying that a Christian photographer should not be forced by the government to take pictures of two men kissing in a romantic wedding pose. (Can you imagine what our Founding Fathers would have thought about this discussion?)

Second, a better analogy would be to point out the absurdity of the government compelling a Muslim caterer to serve pork at a wedding or an Orthodox Jewish photographer to shoot a wedding on the Sabbath. (For more on this, see Ramesh Ponnuru's response to Bruni.)

While Bruni has kind words for "people of faith," he wants that faith kept in the closet, or in his words, in "our pews, homes, and hearts"—but not outside our pews, homes and hearts.

It appears that he doesn't even want us to talk about these things publicly, especially when our views conflict with the goals of gay activism. (Note again that he said, "I support the right of people to believe what they do and say what they wish," but only inside the church building or in the privacy of our homes.)

Well, here's a message from millions of these same people of faith to Mr. Bruni, with all respect for his unique personhood and the importance of his life as a human being created in God's image: We will not stop speaking and we will not stop standing.

We will not go into the closet.

Michael Brown is the author of 25 books, including Can You Be Gay and Christian? and host of the nationally syndicated talk radio show "The Line of Fire." He is also president of FIRE School of Ministry and director of the Coalition of Conscience.


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To: xzins

Homosexuals will never be satisfied with any amount of tolerance or acceptance. Homosexuality is an insatiable desire, inflamed by perverted lusts. These people will not be satisfied even when they begin beating down doors and demanding to send out the visitors “so we may know them”.


41 posted on 01/19/2015 6:37:50 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

Truth.


42 posted on 01/19/2015 7:07:04 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin ( Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you,)
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To: xzins
a better analogy would be to point out the absurdity of the government compelling a Muslim caterer to serve pork at a wedding or an Orthodox Jewish photographer to shoot a wedding on the Sabbath. (For more on this, see Ramesh Ponnuru's response to Bruni.)

Christianity has largely become a religion of convenience with increasingly fewer devout practitioners.

Hence those who do practice their faith more than an occasional hour every seventh day are regarded as enemies of the people (and their gods of industry and 7 day commerce).

In short, liberal Christianity has become its own worst enemy.

Or as +John of Damascus wrote 14 centuries ago, "Islam is God's judgement on an unfaithful Church">

43 posted on 01/19/2015 7:54:52 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: xzins

He’s actually being pretty honest about what the homosexual fascists want.


44 posted on 01/19/2015 8:04:20 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Offend a Christian and he is obliged to pray for you. Offend a Muslim and he is obliged to kill you.)
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To: unlearner
Homosexuals will never be satisfied with any amount of tolerance or acceptance. Homosexuality is an insatiable desire, inflamed by perverted lusts. These people will not be satisfied even when they begin beating down doors and demanding to send out the visitors “so we may know them”.

They are starting in the schools so no need to beat on doors.

45 posted on 01/19/2015 8:05:27 PM PST by USAF80
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To: xzins

Why is Bruni honestly expect a Muslim cakebaker to cater a gay wedding?

Or a mosque to host the venue?

how about an orthodox jew temple as venue? no? just Christians?

why do gays only single out those who they mistakenly believe are supposed to tolerate every behavior ‘in the name of Jesus’?

and how about they keep their own sex lives in their homes?


46 posted on 01/19/2015 11:39:27 PM PST by blueplum
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To: xzins

Even more, I don’t have someone demanding and suing me to believe that Mormon marriages are eternal, I don’t have someone demanding that I should eat kosher with the threat of a lawsuit, etc.

This editor really hates somebody, that’s for sure.


47 posted on 01/20/2015 6:57:55 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: PeteB570

I hope he realizes that if you “come out” to those Muslims in their home territory, you are regarded as stepping out of line. You are very low status in the Middle East. In fact, there’s plenty of people who go to Israel seeking tolerance, and yet, to the liberals, Israel is the oppressor. The logic of the American left is the logic of someone on LSD, their senses and their reasoning do not line up one bit.


48 posted on 01/20/2015 7:01:53 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: xzins
"I support the right of people to believe what they do and say what they wish—in their pews, homes and hearts."

I support the right of people to believe what they do and say what they wish politically — in their voting booths, homes and hearts.

"Would we be content to let a Muslim store owner who believes that a woman should always cover her hair refuse service to women who do not? Or a Mormon hairdresser who spurns coffee to turn away clients who saunter in with frappuccinos?"

Yes and yes.

49 posted on 01/20/2015 8:44:32 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

You are correct. They’ll run themselves out of business in a free market.


50 posted on 01/20/2015 9:09:55 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: windsorknot

The left is simply using the homos to advance an anti-Christian agenda.
They aren’t pro-homo, they just hate Christians and see this as a good cover.


51 posted on 01/20/2015 9:11:42 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Judging from the levels of illigitamacy and immoral behavior even among the heartland proles, are you really sure this is a “moral Christian” nation? Now buy this bridge in Brooklyn from me...


52 posted on 01/21/2015 10:37:38 AM PST by Clemenza (Lurking)
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To: ealgeone

People like him don’t have the first clue what freedom of religion means.


53 posted on 01/21/2015 6:51:31 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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