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'Keep Your Religion in the Closet' Says NYT Editorialist
CharismaNews ^ | 1/19/2015 | Michael Brown

Posted on 01/19/2015 3:22:21 PM PST by xzins

"I support the right of people to believe what they do and say what they wish—in their pews, homes and hearts."

So says an influential New York Times journalist.

In other words, "Keep your religion in the closet."

In his Jan. 10 Times editorial, "Your God and My Dignity: Religious Liberty, Bigotry, and Gays," Frank Bruni writes, "I've been called many unpleasant things in my life, and I've deserved no small number of them. But I chafe at this latest label: A threat to your religious liberty."

He finds it "absurd" that the simple act of two men or two women joining together in "marriage" not only runs counter to our creed but actually runs roughshod over it. Yes, "the deference that many politicians show to such thinking is an example not of religion getting the protection it must but of religious people getting a pass that isn't warranted."

In what sense is this an unwarranted pass?

According to Bruni, who has a big problem with what he calls "religion's favored status" in America, when we refuse to participate in any aspect of same-sex unions, we are using our "religious beliefs ... as a fig leaf for intolerance." This would apply to a justice of the peace who refused to perform the ceremony to a photographer who refused to shoot the event.

Does he really think that the only reason we oppose redefining marriage is because of an unjustified, bigoted intolerance?

Is it only "intolerance" that believes that men were designed for women and women for men? Doesn't the mirror, not to mention the human reproductive system, confirm this?

Is it only "intolerance" that believes that it's best not to deprive a child of either a mother or father?

Is it only "intolerance" that refuses to believe that all of human civilization, until the last 15 years, has been wrong about the meaning of marriage? The many variations of marriage that have existed through the ages have all been based on male-female union, and for good reason.

And could it be that there is good reason that our sacred texts tell us that God forbids homosexual unions?

Why must it be "intolerance" that shapes our thinking?

The real intolerance is on the side of Bruni, who opposes religious liberty for individuals in the workplace, reminding us that Christians who refuse to participate in any aspect of same-sex "marriages" are following in the footsteps of "racists [who] used the same argument to try to perpetuate segregation."

Indeed, for Bruni we are "religious extremists." (Who would have imagined just a few short years ago that Christians who believed that marriage was the union of a man and woman would be branded "religious extremists" in a major publication?)

Referencing a florist, a baker and a photographer who were found guilty of discrimination for "refusing to serve customers having same-sex weddings," Bruni argues that "baking a cake, arranging roses, running an inn ... aren't religious acts, certainly not if the establishments aren't religious enclaves and are doing business with (and even dependent on) the general public."

Apparently he fails to understand that, as followers of Jesus, we are called to do everything—not just sacramental things—for the glory of God and therefore our faith colors every aspect of our lives (see 1 Cor. 10:31; Col. 3:23).

Bruni asks, "Would we be content to let a Muslim store owner who believes that a woman should always cover her hair refuse service to women who do not? Or a Mormon hairdresser who spurns coffee to turn away clients who saunter in with frappuccinos?"

He answers: "I doubt it. So why should a merchant whose version of Christianity condemns homosexuality get to exile gays and lesbians?"

First, we're not "exiling" gays and lesbians. We're simply asking for the right not to be forced into violating our deeply-held beliefs—and they are not some murderous, fanatical tenets. Instead, we're simply saying that a Christian photographer should not be forced by the government to take pictures of two men kissing in a romantic wedding pose. (Can you imagine what our Founding Fathers would have thought about this discussion?)

Second, a better analogy would be to point out the absurdity of the government compelling a Muslim caterer to serve pork at a wedding or an Orthodox Jewish photographer to shoot a wedding on the Sabbath. (For more on this, see Ramesh Ponnuru's response to Bruni.)

While Bruni has kind words for "people of faith," he wants that faith kept in the closet, or in his words, in "our pews, homes, and hearts"—but not outside our pews, homes and hearts.

It appears that he doesn't even want us to talk about these things publicly, especially when our views conflict with the goals of gay activism. (Note again that he said, "I support the right of people to believe what they do and say what they wish," but only inside the church building or in the privacy of our homes.)

Well, here's a message from millions of these same people of faith to Mr. Bruni, with all respect for his unique personhood and the importance of his life as a human being created in God's image: We will not stop speaking and we will not stop standing.

We will not go into the closet.

Michael Brown is the author of 25 books, including Can You Be Gay and Christian? and host of the nationally syndicated talk radio show "The Line of Fire." He is also president of FIRE School of Ministry and director of the Coalition of Conscience.


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To: xzins

How about keep your sex life in the closet?


21 posted on 01/19/2015 4:12:58 PM PST by yldstrk
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To: xzins

Looks like nobody is reading, but is associating your post with your beliefs.
FWIW, xzins a good guy, posting how absurd some people have become.


22 posted on 01/19/2015 4:17:50 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: yldstrk

This


23 posted on 01/19/2015 4:22:38 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: xzins

Sounds like we need a “religious pride” march to stand up to this bigotry.

Let’s all march arm in arm down the street outside his office chanting: “We’re here, we’re religious, we’re not going anywhere!”


24 posted on 01/19/2015 4:23:19 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: WriteOn

Lucky you. They tend to congregate in the cities, where they can take over a neighborhood and exert more influence than their numbers would otherwise warrant.


25 posted on 01/19/2015 4:25:29 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: xzins

But the USA is a Christian nation. We should be able to express that openly. Others might be “uncomfortable” with that. But those are the people who need to be in the closet. Don’t like how we do things here? Learn to deal with it or move away.


26 posted on 01/19/2015 4:26:23 PM PST by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Intelligence doesn’t inoculate you against lusts or perversions. If anything, it might make you more likely to indulge in that stuff, as intelligent people tend to think that “they know better” and can skirt the rules more without consequences.


27 posted on 01/19/2015 4:27:29 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

The USA would be far better off if it were a Christian nation. However, it is far off the mark in our day.

We must be even more public about our Christian faith than ever before.


28 posted on 01/19/2015 4:29:06 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
Obama tried to introduce the phrase "freedom of worship" as a tool to circumscribe our much broader God-given and constitutionally-protected right to the "free exercise thereof". Fortunately, that phrase fell flat. I will express my faith in public, and I will politely stand up to anyone who tries to bully me or anyone else in my presence over Christianity.

Matthew 5:14-16 You are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it gives light to all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

Given a choice between obeying a NYT editor or following the Constitution and the Bible, I find the decision easy. And bullies who attempt to compel others to serve them deserve whatever outcome they receive.

29 posted on 01/19/2015 4:33:11 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: xzins
Obama tried to introduce the phrase "freedom of worship" as a tool to circumscribe our much broader God-given and constitutionally-protected right to the "free exercise thereof". Fortunately, that phrase fell flat. I will express my faith in public, and I will politely stand up to anyone who tries to bully me or anyone else in my presence over Christianity.

Matthew 5:14-16 You are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it gives light to all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

Given a choice between obeying a NYT editor or following the Constitution and the Bible, I find the decision easy. And bullies who attempt to compel others to serve them deserve whatever outcome they receive.

30 posted on 01/19/2015 4:33:12 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: xzins

The vast majority of Americans are conservative and Christian. We just need to get them to vote. The silent majority is what keeps liberal traitors awake at night.


31 posted on 01/19/2015 4:36:45 PM PST by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: xzins

what about the religion of liberalism the utopia of the idiots - its a religion too! The NY Slimes does not objectively report anything unless it is slanted one way!


32 posted on 01/19/2015 4:37:55 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: xzins

I wonder if he feels the same way about Islam?


33 posted on 01/19/2015 4:39:24 PM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: F15Eagle
In other words, "Keep your religion in the closet."

Fine - as long as he keeps his faggotry in his.

34 posted on 01/19/2015 4:40:33 PM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: F15Eagle

Where’s his pet gerbil, Stinky?


35 posted on 01/19/2015 4:43:00 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: PeteB570

Doubtful. It is oh so chic right now for liberals to be Muslims. It’s all the rage. But they don’t know anything about it. They put on the headgear and dutifully go to mosques. But if push comes to shove, those posers will be the first ones beheaded.


36 posted on 01/19/2015 4:46:38 PM PST by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: xzins

What a world.

Homosexuals are called out of the closet while
Christians are told to go into the closet.


37 posted on 01/19/2015 5:35:08 PM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: xzins
we are using our "religious beliefs ... as a fig leaf for intolerance."

Is intolerance unconstitutional? Is it a crime?

If its a crime, what sort of crime is it? If it isn't, what business are my beliefs, intolerant or not, to Frank Bruni?

Just askin'

38 posted on 01/19/2015 5:39:18 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble

It is not intolerant to stand up for your beliefs.

It is intolerant to persecute someone for standing for their beliefs.

Is it intolerant for an old order Amish to stand up for their rejection of modernism? Hardly.

It is intolerant for me to attempt to injure that man for living out his beliefs.


39 posted on 01/19/2015 5:42:55 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Boogieman

John Walker Lindh converted to Islam, the most anti-homosexual faith he could find, after his father divorced his mother to go run a gay bathhouse.
He probably did so because Christian leaders around him didn’t express sufficient revulsion for his father’s action or praised the man for “finding himself”.


40 posted on 01/19/2015 6:25:30 PM PST by tbw2
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