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1 posted on 01/18/2015 7:12:51 PM PST by george76
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I thought it was also a per person thing...so if you file for a family of 4, it’s 4x the penalty.


2 posted on 01/18/2015 7:20:54 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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People who owe money just won’t file. They think of a ‘tax return’ as a check they get from the government. No check, no file.


3 posted on 01/18/2015 7:24:01 PM PST by proxy_user
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You idiots voted for it.

So enjoy it.


4 posted on 01/18/2015 7:26:04 PM PST by Tzimisce
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Unless they changed the law, the taxpayer cannot be required to “fork over” a big penalty. As I understand it, the IRS can only deduct the penalty from any refund due the taxpayer. The law, I understand, is very clear on this point. So if the taxpayer has arranged withholding sensibly, the gummint doesn’t collect the penalty.

Of course, the law also denies subsidies to anyone who does not purchase insurance on an exchange established by a state, and we know what IRS regulations did with that little inconvenience.


5 posted on 01/18/2015 7:26:36 PM PST by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man. Jefferson)
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Shouldn’t be a surprise. The penalty/tax was very widely discussed and it was the central issue in the court case.


7 posted on 01/18/2015 7:34:33 PM PST by ltc8k6
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Waiting for uninformed and stupid to finally realize that this really affects them - badly! Too many seem to have been too passive after this was passed, it if finally time for them to pay the piper.


9 posted on 01/18/2015 7:39:52 PM PST by Deagle
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If you can’t afford lousy insurance that doesn’t really cover pre-existing conditions (despite promises that it did) although it does cover illegals (yes, he lied), then rest assured: the penalties and beatings *will* continue until morale improves.


10 posted on 01/18/2015 7:45:34 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Most of whom you’d consider lower-income people will have the penalty waived if the bronze plan premiums in their area are considered unaffordable to them (without subsidies).


12 posted on 01/18/2015 7:51:49 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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But government free stuff is supposed to be free!


13 posted on 01/18/2015 7:54:35 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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Obama: “How can I tax thee, let me count the ways.”


16 posted on 01/18/2015 8:00:54 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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Millions of taxpayers having their money stolen by the democrats. That cannot help the democrats in the next election.


18 posted on 01/18/2015 8:26:17 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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The unexpected penatly is good for the following reason. Getting kicked in the teeth by unexpected Obamacare penalties is probably what it will take at this point to wake voters up to the following reality.

Regardless what Obama’s activist justices wanted everybody to think about the constitutionality of Obamacare, these justices wrongly ignored the following. As mentioned in related threads, Constitution-respecting justices had historically clarified that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for intrastate healthcare purposes.

In fact, regardless that federal Democrats and RINOs will argue that if the Constitution doesn’t say that they cannot do something then they can do it, note that the Supreme Court has condemned that foolish idea. More specifically, the Supreme Court has clarified in broad terms that powers not expressly delegated to the feds via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate healthcare in this case, are prohibited to the feds.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

20 posted on 01/18/2015 8:34:52 PM PST by Amendment10
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Hey, if you like your Obama lies, you can keep your Obama lies:


22 posted on 01/18/2015 9:00:16 PM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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The slugs get a couple thousand dollars in refunds and think 95 dollars is going to be shocking......doubtful.


23 posted on 01/18/2015 9:08:16 PM PST by napscoordinator
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I’m scratching my head over what’s in store for me in this regard. I was covered under an employer-provided BCBS policy in January, 2014. Then, nothing until the end of October and another BCBS policy. I didn’t sign up for the exchange because I was expecting a fairly immediate job offer that never came, then I was scrambling to support myself while also looking for a position. My income between was minimal, unemployment insurance for the maximum 19 weeks in this state plus some contract and freelance work.

I’m tempted to think that I won’t be penalized because of the minimal income, but adding up the three months of salary plus UE plus what I was able to do independently in between likely pushes me over the limit.

Is there any clearcut resource that might clarify this? I don’t know of one, and do not relish the thought of speaking with anyone with the IRS about it, prior experience says that I’ll get conflicting answers that may not be correct.


25 posted on 01/18/2015 9:09:56 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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I am happy to see fools who voted for the architects of 0bamakill suffer because of it. What is unfortunate is the collateral damage that it’s creating.


26 posted on 01/18/2015 9:17:12 PM PST by windsorknot
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.... A little late to the party these reporters are!

.... I don't get it .... this stuff has been known for years .... and NOW .... these crack reporters have uncovered some MAJOR news that has actually been in print since this damn thing was passed ..... what do they think all of the Healthcare discussion was about before the last Fed Election?

27 posted on 01/18/2015 9:28:24 PM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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You want to eliminate this tax? Well read this....

ObamaCare allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States !

Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured! Islam considers insurance to be “gambling,” “risk-taking,” and “usury” and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this.

How convenient. So I, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health insurance needs paid for by the de-facto government insurance.

Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. This is Dhimmitude. Cheer Up Obama is in charge.


33 posted on 01/18/2015 10:12:00 PM PST by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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Adjust your withholding folks.


36 posted on 01/18/2015 10:42:29 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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This is just another reminder that liberals are evil.


45 posted on 01/19/2015 3:42:31 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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