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Taliban Claims America 'Defeated' in Afghanistan
Weekly Standard ^ | DEC 29, 2014 | Geoffrey Norman

Posted on 12/29/2014 10:04:32 AM PST by MeshugeMikey

Taliban insurgents in Afghanistan on Monday declared the "defeat" of the U.S. and its allies in the 13-year-old war, a day after the coalition officially marked the end of its combat mission.

And, as Heath Druzin of Stars and Stripes reports, some U.S. troops will remain in Afghanistan in what their commander describes as:

“... a non-combat mission in a combat environment.”

(Excerpt) Read more at weeklystandard.com ...


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To: Vermont Lt
History is rather clear, that Afghanistan is essentially ungovernable, especially by outside forces. If we won, I don't know what we won. If we lost, I don't know what we lost.

I guess we just quit and went home.

41 posted on 12/29/2014 10:53:55 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: MeshugeMikey
I am an advocate for removing every member of the US Armed forces from Afghanistan.

There is nothing there that is in US Essential interests and we haven't had an interest there since US Special Forces deposed the Taliban Government and Mullah Omar.

Circa June, 2002.

When I think of the hundreds who died there, and thousands who were maimed, I weep.

42 posted on 12/29/2014 10:55:00 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MeshugeMikey

It’s how they view wars. The only way to win is to carpet bomb or nuke the region, and destroy their evil.


43 posted on 12/29/2014 11:01:58 AM PST by vpintheak (Keep calm and Rain Steel!)
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To: Vermont Lt

I pretty much agree with what you said there.

There will be no fundamental change. Too much influence of the “other” in that country. Especially with Pakistan right next door.


44 posted on 12/29/2014 11:29:23 AM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Leaning Right

God bless you. You are an optimist.


45 posted on 12/29/2014 11:34:57 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Anyone with a passing knowledge of the history of Afghanistan knows it gobbles up invaders and spits them out. Typically, the country is invaded fairly easily, and then as time passes, it is a death of a thousand cuts. See the four British Afghan wars of the 19th century, the Soviet attempt of the 20th and ours in the 21st. They are happy in their 7th century sh!thole and refuse to change for anyone.


46 posted on 12/29/2014 11:36:08 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: MeshugeMikey

Obama and his commie ‘RATs were defeated. A Congess full of Muzzie loving buffoons was defeated. AMERICA WAS NOT DEFEATED.


47 posted on 12/29/2014 11:40:41 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The trouble with America is that it's full of Americans. - The commie DemocRATS.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Everyone forgets the opium money flowing into politicians pockets. Troops will remain to protect the supply routes. Our poor guys.


48 posted on 12/29/2014 11:40:58 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

thank you.


49 posted on 12/29/2014 11:49:24 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Oh, come on, a little historical perspective: no one who conquered Afghanistan ever had a successor who held the place. GWB is just the latest in a long line going back to Alexander the Great to have the control he won of that wretched patch of perpetual clan-warfare frittered away by is successor.


50 posted on 12/29/2014 12:01:42 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: MeshugeMikey

It is one of the great judo-moves in history. Seven years after the attack on the World Trade Center, the Muslim Brotherhood occupied the White House.


51 posted on 12/29/2014 12:04:07 PM PST by marron
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To: The_Reader_David

Afghan Pride is astonishing, for what it’s worth...


52 posted on 12/29/2014 12:13:17 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Lorianne

The only way to understand our involvement in Afghanistan is in terms of China containment, but you will NEVER hear anyone in DC admit that. And in that sense, the long foray there has been a pretty clear success at an acceptable, though tragic, cost. Those GIs who died and suffered there did not serve in vain. China has been precluded from garrisoning that country and linking overland supply routes to Iran and Pakistan, and has been limited to low-level harassment through its proxies rather than direct military action.

Keeping a force there to bolster a pro-US government further continues the containment while giving Washington the public perception that the war is over. It ain’t, and won’t be for a long time. The Chinese know this, and can take cold comfort in the latest news.


53 posted on 12/29/2014 1:30:47 PM PST by Tenega
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

No, the Taliban is just applying the standard Muslim definition of victory:

“You didn’t kill all of us, so we won!”


54 posted on 12/29/2014 1:32:46 PM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow)
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