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Will the Boeing 747 Fly Off Into the Sunset?
The Motley Fool ^ | December 28, 2014 | Rich Smith

Posted on 12/28/2014 8:10:57 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

Boeing (NYSE: BA ) extended its sales lead over archrival Airbus (NASDAQOTH: EADSY ) in December.

In its latest update on airplane orders, released last week, Boeing confirmed that 2014 "gross" orders for commercial aircraft reached 1,423 by mid-December, versus 1,328 planes for Airbus (at last report). After cancellations -- 106 at Boeing, but nearly three times as many at Airbus -- the U.S. aircraft maker's lead over its European rival only got bigger.

This is good news for Boeing -- but, as we'll see in a moment, it might be bad news for one of Boeing's favorite customers: the U.S. president.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 747; aerospace; airasia; airbus; airplanes; aviation; boeing; pkaxc; qz8501
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1 posted on 12/28/2014 8:10:57 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

There have also been reliable stories recently indicating that the Airbus 380 is also in trouble as well.


2 posted on 12/28/2014 8:20:36 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter;No Longer The Worst President In My Lifetime)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Boeing's current 747-8 model lists for more than $360 million

WOW!

That's almost as much as Moochie spends on vacations!


3 posted on 12/28/2014 8:23:15 PM PST by Iron Munro (Conservative Epitaph: Don't Cry For Me , You Still Have Two More Years Of Obama)
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To: ConservativeStatement
The 747 deserves to be in the same class as the DC-3 and the 707.

A remarkable plane with a very long life!

This was my favorite picture of a 747 back before it became a high end vacation camper for the President:

4 posted on 12/28/2014 8:23:49 PM PST by rlmorel (The Media's Principles: Conflict must exist. Doesn't exist? Create it. Exists? Exacerbate it.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Respectfully, I don’t see a problem with using a 777 for Air Force One, when the time comes.


5 posted on 12/28/2014 8:25:40 PM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: Gay State Conservative

I don’t know why this would be bad news for the President?

I presume the Air Force can order however many parts it needs in advance to keep Air Force One in the air until the end of days.

I also presume that they knew AF1 would eventually get grounded at some point permanently and have plans for a replacement.


6 posted on 12/28/2014 8:26:31 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: ConservativeStatement

One questions: what are the implications of setting up a 777 for use as AF1? For the use of the current WH resident,I should think an old DC-3 should fulfill his needs. He doesn’t need a 747 to go on vacation,which seems to be what it is primarily used for.


7 posted on 12/28/2014 8:27:03 PM PST by oldtech
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To: ConservativeStatement
I have strong sentiments for Boeing as my dad worked there in Seattle for 30 years, (1949-1979), and me too for awhile.

I remember seeing many bumper stickers over the years saying "If it ain't Boeing, I'm not going"

The 747 has been a commercial passenger workhorse for decades.

8 posted on 12/28/2014 8:30:39 PM PST by PROCON (Merry CHRISTmas!!)
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To: jttpwalsh

They will not use a 2 holer, imo.

Besides reliability and safety, “AF1” needs an enormous amount of electrical power capability.

They will likely go with 747-8 for the new version, imo.


9 posted on 12/28/2014 8:31:52 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: oldtech

The VC-137 was only retired in 2001. SAM 26000 is still in airworthy condition. We could also resurrect the VC-118.


10 posted on 12/28/2014 8:35:02 PM PST by __rvx86 (A non-trivial fear: Government by my peers. Double points if you can figure out when I was born.)
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To: oldtech

I am not sure of the specifics but I seem to recall reading a recent article in which 777s will eventually be used as presidential planes in Japan.


11 posted on 12/28/2014 8:36:05 PM PST by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: ltc8k6

The article makes it sounds like they will order a pair of 747s before the line goes out of production. It will be interesting to see what happens, years from now. Thanks for your reply.


12 posted on 12/28/2014 8:37:14 PM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: Gay State Conservative

She may not be seen in passenger carrying livery, but the 747 is an incredibly capable cargo ship as well. I doubt the freight version is going anywhere soon.

CC


13 posted on 12/28/2014 8:37:19 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (Tagline Constructon zone- low humor ahead)
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To: ConservativeStatement

If they are owned by AirAsia that seems pretty likely...


14 posted on 12/28/2014 8:50:34 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Jonty30

The 747 will be flying for decades to come so parts will be available.


15 posted on 12/28/2014 8:51:24 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: Jonty30
I don’t know why this would be bad news for the President?

I suspect that it boils down to prestige.We don't want the head henchman of China or the USSR showing up at a summit in an A380 and our President showing up in a 727.

16 posted on 12/28/2014 8:55:02 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter;No Longer The Worst President In My Lifetime)
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To: Celtic Conservative

The 747 project began as a cargo ship; it was Boeing’s bid for the C-5 contract. They re-purposed it for pax after the USAF chose Lockheed.


17 posted on 12/28/2014 8:57:53 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Will steal your comments & post them on Twitter)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Say it ain’t so!

The plane the same age as I is a masterpiece, an icon like no other airliner. It’s been modified, obviously, but there is still something about it that no other has.

AirBus will never fill that. Not even the big fat 380. Impressive, but still not distinctive.

No other Boeing will, either.


18 posted on 12/28/2014 8:58:26 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The 747 will be flying for decades to come so parts will be available.

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If so, it will be as freighters.


19 posted on 12/28/2014 8:59:04 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: rlmorel

I think it has long been considered in the same class as a DC-3 or 707. Legendary, iconic, but much more distinctive.


20 posted on 12/28/2014 8:59:18 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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