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If GOP establishment picks Jeb Bush for 2016, conservatives should bolt for another party
Absolute Rights ^ | 12/26/2014 | Jon E Dougherty

Posted on 12/26/2014 7:20:12 AM PST by SleeperCatcher

Some conservative political analysts have opined that former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush announced recently that he was further exploring his options to run for the GOP presidential nomination as a means of pre-empting all other potential GOP candidates. Many of the same analysts say there was an additional, not-so-subtle message, and it was aimed primarily at conservatives: ‘Don’t bother running; the monied GOP interests (i.e. the donor class) have spoken and Jeb Bush is who they want.’

Over the Christmas holidays I have had a number of people ask my opinion about Bush, and what I have told them, essentially, is this: Jeb Bush, like all the Bushes, is an inherently decent man. He has been a governor of a mostly red (but sometimes purple) state. He shares lineage with a storied political family. But if the goal is to restore some semblance of constitutional government to our republic, Jeb Bush is the wrong candidate, for he – like his father and brother before him – is no conservative.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2016election; election2016; florida; gop; jebbush; rinosonparade; terrischaivo; uniparty
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To: SleeperCatcher

This could prove to be history repeating itself.

The Whig party leadership was totally committed to business and ignored the rest of society. But it was a viable party only because of the large number of people who rejected the repulsive Jacksonian Democrat party.

Finally, it was the issue of slavery that forced the Whig rank and file to leave and form the Republican party; because the Whig leadership just couldn’t bring itself to resolutely oppose slavery, because slavery “was good for business”. The Whig rank and file were extremely opposed to slavery, but the party leadership blocked them from power much like the RINOs and GOP-e block conservatives today.

They would sell America off to corporate multinationals and corporate controlled internationalism, just as repulsive as the socialist internationalism wanted by the Democrats.

Continuing with this analogy, all it takes is for there to be an agreement among conservatives to all walk out of the Republican party, and bar the RINOs and GOP-e from the new party. Sure, for one election, the Republican leadership would have its cronies pour money into them, but so many of their office holders would leave, they would likely lose all but a smattering of seats in congress.

Whether this will come about is the question, however, because with each election, more and more RINOs and GOP-e are losing their seats. At some point it will reach a threshold where they cannot maintain their power, and the end result will be the same.


61 posted on 12/26/2014 8:22:49 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Slyfox

Because he is an elitist who wants his citizen/subjects ignorant and compliant.


62 posted on 12/26/2014 8:24:06 AM PST by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: ducttape45
It is emerging that Jeb is the globalist oligarch's choice, so he must know they rule over him. This means he will do as they order him to do, just as L4B (little bathhouse barry bastard boy) has done. Jeb will appear to be a nicer, less drug-addled, engaged leader, but his lack of leadership during the Terry Schiavo episode revealed who he really is.

How many times will Americans witness the placing of presidents into the Oval Office, from both parties, before we realize that America is no longer a We The People Republic and thus terminally vulnerable to the machinations of evil globalist banking cartels taking over the world via monetary manipulation and using our debt load to buy up industry which empowers the tyranny?

63 posted on 12/26/2014 8:25:57 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: certrtwngnut

Ted Cruz gets the headlines and has stood up to the GOP leadership directly over Obamacare and Amnesty.

He has the base of support as a result and is much more viable as a presidential candidate.

Unity of conservatives behind Cruz for president in the Republican Party is absolutely essential and if that fails and the GOPe wins, there should be a Third Party mechanism ready to run a presidential candidate.


64 posted on 12/26/2014 8:26:05 AM PST by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: SunkenCiv

Totally agree. If the GOP isn’t an opposition party, there is no reason for its continued existence.


65 posted on 12/26/2014 8:27:37 AM PST by ZULU (Quo usque tandem abutere Obama patientia nostra?)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals
"Rather than build a new party conservatives should consider the Libertarian Party. The LP has the mechanism to put people on the ballot in nearly every race."

A coalition of TEA Party groups and the Libertarian Party can and will work- If they can work out a partnership.

66 posted on 12/26/2014 8:29:56 AM PST by matthew fuller (Obama, McConnell, Boehner and Islam - the first step into a thousand years of darkness.)
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To: Nextrush

Conservative activists should have a big advantage in primaries because they are more motivated and most voters simply don’t go to primary elections.

As I see it, the split votes for different candidates sorts itself out very quickly. Your excuse doesn’t hold water.

Just bring the votes.


67 posted on 12/26/2014 8:39:23 AM PST by wildbill (If you check behind the shower" curtain for a murderer, and find one... what's your plan?)
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To: SleeperCatcher

I think ‘they’ are picking Bush for our candidate, for the same reason they picked McCain, so republicans will lose and the democrat party can keep getting blamed for all these horrible things that are being done to our country that the Republicans really want done as well. Ted Cruz please run!


68 posted on 12/26/2014 8:41:40 AM PST by txgirl4Bush (Impeach obama)
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To: DiogenesLamp
So then because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth."

Sadly, too many Republicans continue to ignore that counsel, and cling to the ludicrous notion that casting a vote AGAINST something is somehow honorable (e.g., "No! I'm not voting FOR that horrid, statist RINO Republican! I'm voting AGAINST the Dem!"). As a result, the GOP leadership have no incentive to work hard and listen to their base - why should they bother? They can polish a turd and put an "R" after its name and get enough Republicans to vote for it! The result? Those elected continue to get more and more statist and power-hungry and further divorced from the people they represent

And many of those conservatives who do manage to get in are soon compromised. Never forget Trent Lott's infamous quote:

“We don’t need a lot of Jim DeMint disciples,” Lott said in an interview. “As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them.”


69 posted on 12/26/2014 8:43:34 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: SleeperCatcher

Terri Schiavo impels us to nip this in the bud. Jeb had his testing time and failed the test when he allowed her judical murder in HIS state on HIS watch.

I held my nose for the other Bushes, for McCain and for Romney.

Jeb is a complete and unequivocal non-starter for me.


70 posted on 12/26/2014 8:44:17 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: SleeperCatcher

In reply to the headline; Since we already know that’s what they’re going to do, why wait until they do it and then the few months remaining before election day don’t permit us time to mount a real and effective “other party” effort? They have all the mainslime networks, too, which will render any 3rd Party effort almost impossible. We’d stand a BETTER chance of commandeering the RINO Convention and electing REAL Republican candidates.

Once the RINO Convention has taken place and they’ve chosen a pair of losers as the top of the RINO Ticket, it is too late for us to start cobbling up a Party structure, naming candidates, raising funds, creating and placing campaign ads, getting name recognition, etc., etc.

We already KNOW what the RINOs in the GOPe are going to do.


71 posted on 12/26/2014 8:52:12 AM PST by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: SleeperCatcher

“If GOP establishment picks Jeb Bush for 2016, conservatives should bolt for another party”

NO!!!

We should DEFEAT HIM in the Primaries, just as Reagan had to do in 1980 and Dave Brat did to Eric Cantor earlier this year.

How about WE FIGHT, rather than run with our tails between our legs?


72 posted on 12/26/2014 8:56:41 AM PST by BobL (I'm so old, I can remember when most hate crimes were committed by whites - Thomas Sowell, 2014)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Are you nuts? We are barely hanging on as a republic after the last “lesson” you geniuses gave the GOP. The problem is not as much who runs, but it is the primaries.The highest concentration of conservatives is in the South and middle of the country. The primaries start out in the Northeast and by the time it gets around to us it is largely over. THAT is what needs to change.
73 posted on 12/26/2014 8:56:51 AM PST by Texas Patriot61 (Gun control is being able to hit your target.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I would shoot myself before I would vote for a democrat for President. So you can take that idea off the table.

We’ll lose if Jeb’s elected anyhow.. so we might as well make the break when and if he he gets the nomination.


74 posted on 12/26/2014 8:59:52 AM PST by GOPJ (White people in black neighborhoods should expect to be the victims of black crime.- Flaherty)
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To: LS
I am with you. Time's a wastin'

Plus, the WORST has, pretty much, already happened. It's not like we need to fear a full blown American hating communist getting elected and filling the gov't with fellow travelers.

That's one positive that come from facing worst case scenarios.

75 posted on 12/26/2014 9:00:38 AM PST by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: SleeperCatcher

I’m in.


76 posted on 12/26/2014 9:01:20 AM PST by _longranger81
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To: SleeperCatcher

**conservatives should bolt for another party**

That would give the dimocrats the victory they want.

Wise up!


77 posted on 12/26/2014 9:02:29 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: goldstategop

**If he is nominated, I won’t bother to vote.**

Handing the presidency to the dims.


78 posted on 12/26/2014 9:03:09 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SleeperCatcher

I have come to believe that the GOPe does not care if their guy (Bush) wins the election. They (GOPe) and the libtards have become one party and are pulling off the greatest con job in our nation’s history, perpetuating the idea that ‘they’ are really giving us a ‘choice’ in the voting booth. There is NO other explanation for their fear and hatred of true conservatives.


79 posted on 12/26/2014 9:06:42 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: Salvation

Either way, we’re not going to get a conservative President.

That much is already clear.

Liberals have taken over the GOP.


80 posted on 12/26/2014 9:11:04 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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