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Who Is to Blame for How Black Males Are Viewed by Others?
American Thinker ^ | 12/09/2014 | Patricia L. Dickson

Posted on 12/09/2014 5:44:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind

In a heated exchange, PBS host Tavis Smiley told Sean Hannity that“racism is still the most intractable issue in this country, it's a part of everything we do still.”  He made this claim while discussing the incidents surrounding the police handling of Michael Brown and Eric Garner.  Mr. Smiley also stated, in refuting President Obama’s remarks on BET that we cannot compare what is happening now with what happened fifty years ago, “It is open season on black men, and it is in many ways as bad as it was fifty years ago.”

The meme that Mr. Smiley and other prominent black Americans keep repeating is that police officers have such a negative view of black males (which Smiley and others attribute to racism) that they place less value on their (black males’) lives.  That in turn causes the police officers to set out from the get-go to shoot to kill.

Now, there is no evidence that supports that claim.  However if that is the case, how did the police officers come to view black males so negatively in the first place?

My parents always taught me that people would view me in the way that I presented myself.  In other words, if I do not respect myself in the way that I dress, speak, or act, people will not show me any respect.  I have never once been taught that the way I am viewed is the fault of others.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackmales; police; profiling
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To: umgud
Burning and looting their own businesses in honor of Mike Brown’s death is a little confusing also.

To folks in the hood, Black business people are Uncle Tom's and Aunt Jemimas and are just acting White.

41 posted on 12/09/2014 6:54:59 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: All
The issue is not race, it is culture.

Call it what you want but as far as I am concerned that is just another meme. It just so happens that 'culture' is black. Which came first...

42 posted on 12/09/2014 6:55:52 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: SeekAndFind

Blacks are to blame. Wanna act like a thug, dress like a thug, intimidate others like a thug...well then, you’re a thug.


43 posted on 12/09/2014 7:05:20 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: yldstrk

I had a somewhat similar experience. Flat tire in a black neighborhood. Not more than a minute after I got out and started the changing process, the local orcs started to form up across the street. Luckily, they dispersed after I violently rapped my tire iron several times against the wall of my truck bed. I looked several of them directly in the eyes the entire time I was wailing away. I have no doubt that they would have assaulted me - at the very least - had I not displayed aggression. It’s like a friggin’ jungle environment with these feral mutts.


44 posted on 12/09/2014 7:06:53 AM PST by Basil Duke
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To: ilovesarah2012

In addition to Ithaca, I’ve been similarly accosted by black men in downtown Columbus, OH; Cleveland, OH; and twice in Palo Alto, CA. I have detected a pattern.


45 posted on 12/09/2014 7:07:41 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: goldstategop

LOL, don’t quote Polonius. He was a fool.


46 posted on 12/09/2014 7:12:33 AM PST by Mercat ("The sisters did not want to save the world. Someone already had.")
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To: MrB

U nailed it!


47 posted on 12/09/2014 7:13:10 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Hard not to “profile” based on personal experiences.


48 posted on 12/09/2014 7:13:11 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind
Who Is to Blame for How Black Males Are Viewed by Others?

I'll take "black males" for $500, S & F...

49 posted on 12/09/2014 7:16:04 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

PC 3 here, 50 years later, good post. Took a second read to figure out you meant “piping” on his sleeves etc;

I appreciate ALL that that uniform meant 50 years later than I did back then!


50 posted on 12/09/2014 7:20:20 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: NorthMountain
That's just a nasty, evil, violent, bigoted individual who was brought up wrong and trained to do worse.

Back then it was not acceptable, but was understandable to some extent given the crap many of them had to put up with. Nowadays though, most of the crap is self-administered.

51 posted on 12/09/2014 7:33:35 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SeekAndFind

” In a heated exchange, PBS host Tavis Smiley told Sean Hannity that“racism is still the most intractable issue in this country, “

Yep, and Tavis is the most visible racist I can think of.


52 posted on 12/09/2014 7:39:47 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: JimRed

Now it’s perfectly acceptable in the “black community” ... expected, even. Perhaps required. And their difficulties are almost completely self inflicted ... or imaginary.


53 posted on 12/09/2014 7:40:27 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: HotHunt

” Sad day for our country when it is our own president and his attorney general, who are the racist bigots, and not the American people or law enforcemet”

Very sad.


54 posted on 12/09/2014 7:41:14 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: SeekAndFind
There is an interesting book called, The Gift of Fear,” by Gavin de Becker. The advice of that book is that fear is a inarticulate sensation which derives from “logic” which the subject experiencing the fear may not be able to articulate.

Inability to articulate, even to one’s own self, the cause of fear does not change the fact that the person who feels afraid would be foolish to talk himself out of his fear without definitive investigation of the source of the feeling.

You have to earn trust; presuming to demand trust is a certain marker of an untrustworthy person. That is true on an individual basis, and ineluctably it is true on a broader basis.

No free person can be prevented from adjusting his or her level of caution according to his or her own criteria.


55 posted on 12/09/2014 7:45:11 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Mr Rogers

You’re right. My best friend in high school was a black guy named Charlie and he’d give you the shirt off his back if you needed it. Still, I have two friends, both of whom have been mugged by young blacks, so it’s those incidents that jaundice the perception of all blacks. It’s not right, but people prefer to error on the side of safety. Until the black community changes their behavior from what we see in Ferguson, NYC, New Orleans, etc., people are going to infer from what they see.


56 posted on 12/09/2014 7:46:20 AM PST by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

That was a horrible experience for any 12 year old!

It motivates me to tell you of an opposite experience I had growing up though I was just a little older at 15-16, am now sixtyish.

It was with a poor black man named Thomas and his wife Lucille and their 9 kids. Thomas was a mechanic and outside his house in a poor neighborhood were cars and more cars in various states of repair or dis-repair.

Thomas was big and VERY strong and nobody but nobody messed with him, except Lucille, she never backed down from him even once that I could tell.

Thomas was also BIG in another place......his heart! And, he helped me and my other white buddy keep our cars running all the way through high school and college. When we didn’t have money, Thomas would say “pull it on in here!” But, boy we never failed to pay him either!

When it was supper time we sat down with “9 kids and a wife” and had some of the best food I ever ate in my entire life and I have been all over this world! During those meals there were lots of “yes ma’am’s” and “yes sirs” too, from all of us kids. Years later all 9 kids of his and Lucille’s kids enjoyed various levels of success too.

I could go on and on about “Thomas”.....a great unsung black man.

My only point to you today is you had some bad luck at 12. You could have just as easily met a “Thomas and Lucille” and their 9 outstanding kids.


57 posted on 12/09/2014 8:07:33 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: econjack
My best friend in high school was a black guy named Charlie
I have two friends [who] have been mugged by young blacks
It’s not right, but people prefer to error on the side of safety. Until the black community changes their behavior from what we see in Ferguson, NYC, New Orleans, etc., people are going to infer from what they see.
People are going to err on the side of safety, because (as Thomas Sowell pointed out in his breakout book, Knowledge and Decisions) knowledge isn’t free. If you are in an unfamiliar town, and you are hungry for lunch, you have to choose whether to try for a great meal in a proprietary local cafe or whether to settle for the McDonald’s the quality of which you can predict with great accuracy. You tend to go to the McDonald’s because you know more about it. Is that “prejudice” in favor of McDonald’s? No. It is erring on the side of safety.

Likewise, you know that the next black guy you meet might be Charlie - but he also could be one of the guys who beat up a couple of your friends. Anyone else who meets Charlie wouldn’t recognize him, and only have a general suspicion that he is a “Charlie” or a mugger. Charlie doesn’t get “white privilege,” and that isn’t your fault or mine. “White privilege” is simply the generalized assumption based on averages and on the cost of being wrong.


58 posted on 12/09/2014 8:10:51 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
“White privilege” is simply the generalized assumption based on averages and on the cost of being wrong.

An "Black prejudice" is also based on the average (expected) behavior that prevails in black society. I've mentioned this before, but there was a gun control debate a long time ago between Orin Hatch (anti-control) and Jesse Jackson (pro-control). Well into the debate and with Jesse throwing his usual I'm-a-victim crap around, Orin said: "Mr. Jackson, if we removed the violent crimes committed by black males between the ages of 18 and 29, the US would have a lower murder rate than Switzerland." Jesse's response: Crickets...

59 posted on 12/09/2014 8:52:14 AM PST by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

When the jungle gene is removed from all races.
One has a better chance of finding a diamond in a box of cracker jacks.


60 posted on 12/09/2014 9:05:54 AM PST by Vaduz
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