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Who Is to Blame for How Black Males Are Viewed by Others?
American Thinker ^ | 12/09/2014 | Patricia L. Dickson

Posted on 12/09/2014 5:44:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind

In a heated exchange, PBS host Tavis Smiley told Sean Hannity that“racism is still the most intractable issue in this country, it's a part of everything we do still.”  He made this claim while discussing the incidents surrounding the police handling of Michael Brown and Eric Garner.  Mr. Smiley also stated, in refuting President Obama’s remarks on BET that we cannot compare what is happening now with what happened fifty years ago, “It is open season on black men, and it is in many ways as bad as it was fifty years ago.”

The meme that Mr. Smiley and other prominent black Americans keep repeating is that police officers have such a negative view of black males (which Smiley and others attribute to racism) that they place less value on their (black males’) lives.  That in turn causes the police officers to set out from the get-go to shoot to kill.

Now, there is no evidence that supports that claim.  However if that is the case, how did the police officers come to view black males so negatively in the first place?

My parents always taught me that people would view me in the way that I presented myself.  In other words, if I do not respect myself in the way that I dress, speak, or act, people will not show me any respect.  I have never once been taught that the way I am viewed is the fault of others.


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KEYWORDS: blackmales; police; profiling
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To: Mercat

Am I biased against a black thug? Yep. Am I biased against a white male wearing his pants below his crotch? Yep. Am I biased against a black man wearing a suit downtown at 2 PM? Nope. What about 6 young black males outside a bar at 11pm (on the rare times I’m not in bed by 10 pm)? Yep. A black guy in uniform? Nope.

“I don’t think it’s prejudice. It’s street smarts.”

Like most people, I do what I can to reduce my chance of being robbed, beaten or killed. Black males between the age of 15 & 35 are about 2% of the US population. They commit about 50% of the murders. That is all anyone needs to know to explain my bias. It is prudent risk reduction: “street smarts”.


21 posted on 12/09/2014 6:19:03 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

As Polonius says in “Hamlet” - “the clothes make the man.”

In the end its not about skin color but about character.

With the latter, people have it or they don’t.


22 posted on 12/09/2014 6:20:53 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MrB

I suppose, to a degree, but we are still responsible for our choices - at least we used to be.


23 posted on 12/09/2014 6:23:34 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Mr Rogers

Exactly.

Street smarts means not being out in a certain area at a certain time and not being around people you don’t know very well.

That’s not racism; that’s survival. Your odds increase when you don’t get involved with people who don’t have good character.


24 posted on 12/09/2014 6:23:51 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind
"....police officers have such a negative view of black males.....Now, there is no evidence that supports that claim. However if that is the case, how did the police officers come to view black males so negatively in the first place?"

I believe this whole the-cops-are-at-fault thing started with Obama proclaiming in the Gates-Cambridge police case, that, "It's pretty clear that the cops acted stupidly", before he knew the facts of the case. That telegraphed his mind set on law enforcement and set the pace for the cops being blamed for everything bad that happened to blacks.

Those words mattered, but Obama, being the intellectually dishonest man that he is, would never admit that. He and Holder have spent a good amount of time during the last six years dividing this country into opposing sides. And in this case, they have successfully pitted the cops as being against the blacks.

Sad day for our country when it is our own president and his attorney general, who are the racist bigots, and not the American people or law enforcement.

25 posted on 12/09/2014 6:24:01 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: SeekAndFind
How young black males are viewed can be a learned response.

I have had three times where I was targeted for crime.

First - downtown Milwaukee. A young black man tried to wrestle my briefcase away from me on the street. He was unsuccessful.

Second - LA Airport. A young black man grabbed my wife's bag off the baggage carousel and ran for the door. He was unsuccessful.

Third - my home. A young black man broke my car window and stole electronics from my car. I caught him on my video system and the police identified him and tracked him down.

These are the facts. It has nothing whatsoever to do with racism. It has to do criminals trying to steal from me.

26 posted on 12/09/2014 6:25:26 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They are.

Back in the late 70s and 80s, I never remember seeing the type of gutter culture among blacks. In fact you look at TV ads with blacks of all ages during that time, and you see people that were as all-American as anyone else.

But somewhere around 1988 hip-hop music joined up with black militants and inner-city gangs and became this ethnocentric/thugged-out trash that made black culture go right into the crapper. And it has been digging down ever since. Toss in the trash movies by Spike Lee, along with gangsta rap and it likely will never recover from that change.


27 posted on 12/09/2014 6:26:06 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I was walking down the street (many years ago) and a black kid on a bike ride over to my side and grabbed my purse. I knew what he was going to do and held on tight. He didn’t get it. A white guy has never tried to grab my purse. Just sayin...


28 posted on 12/09/2014 6:26:31 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind
As long as people are focused on "race" as the measure of themselves and the reason for any and all of their troubles, nothing changes.

There will always be something to "justify" whatever negative one chooses to focus their attention on, just as there is always something to justify being grateful.

Unfortunately, it's easier for most of us to focus on the "bad" rather than the "good" and easy for many to then get stuck in the rut of self-fulfilling prophecies of how life sucks no matter what you do and how other people are against you because you're "_______".

As such, in many a mind "bad" is easy to spread around to cover all a person sees in their world, much more so than "good" is.

It's also easy to find others who share that "bad" view, as well as those exploit it for their own purposes, such as race pimps and race hustlers and other assorted politicians, as well as family, friends, co-workers, etc.

If your thoughts are saying that white people or cops hate you 'cause you're black, the music and people on the radio you choose to listen to say the same thing, the Sharptons and Jacksons are saying the same thing, the stuff you choose to read on the 'net says the same thing, what are your thoughts telling you when you come face to face with a white cop or a random, lone white person or white potential employer or white teacher or any white authority figure or etc.?

Change your thoughts, change your world.
Nothing changes until the stuff you tell yourself changes.

29 posted on 12/09/2014 6:28:18 AM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream...with consequences.)
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To: petercooper

Reminds me of what happened to me back in 1959 at Artesia NM. There was an ice cream and soda shop across the street from the school. One day I decided I wanted a soda so when the bell rang I outran all the kids to get there first and put in my order.
Then I heard it.
“You better hurry up you little M********r! You better hurry or I’ll f*** you to death!”
I turned around and there was the ugliest black girl I had ever seen in my life.
She continued to rage on me as the soda jerk took his sweet time getting my order.
Finally my soda came, I paid and as I was leaving she gave me another blast! “It”s about time you little M**********, I was about ready to f*** you to death RIGHT HERE!”

I was 12 years old. I never went back for another soda. In all my years in the oil camps I never heard anyone talk like that.


30 posted on 12/09/2014 6:30:06 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I survived I-35W through Fort Worth in Rush hour!)
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To: petercooper
They have made a mockery of their entire race.

They have, indeed. I cannot say I am proud to be white; but I'd be embarrassed to be black.

31 posted on 12/09/2014 6:32:57 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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To: SeekAndFind
In a heated exchange, PBS host Tavis Smiley told Sean Hannity that "racism is still the most intractable issue in this country, it's a part of everything we do still."

It's definitely a part of everything Travis does.

Misspelling intentional.

32 posted on 12/09/2014 6:34:39 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: econjack

“Take a white guy and have his car break down in an all-black neighborhood and have a black guy break down in an all-white neighborhood and see which one gets a tow truck and which one gets an ambulance.”

Here is something that is sad in its own way:

In the mid-60s, my Dad slid off the road and into a ditch on a back road in Alabama. We kids got out to look. While he was trying to figure out what to do, 6 black guys walked up the dirt road. Without a word, all 6 guys joined my Dad and lifted/shoved the car back on the road.

Dad offered them some money as thanks, and they laughed and turned him down...and gave him directions on how to get back to the main road. Rural Alabama, 1966.

It might still happen in RURAL Alabama. It sure would not happen in East St Louis.


33 posted on 12/09/2014 6:35:44 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: SeekAndFind

Answer 1-Black males who PROVE the stereotype that causes the generalization.
Answer 2- Black culture that excuses and celebrates said black males who reinforce the ‘thug’ image.
Answer 3- Black mothers who raise children to BE the very same kind of black men who use and abandon them; who teach their sons to ‘get theirs’ and reject any kind of blame or responsibility.
Answer 4- Greater society that tolerates all of the above because it is paralyzed by PC.


34 posted on 12/09/2014 6:38:15 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam- it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: petercooper
The best friends I have are a black family that have kids the same age as mine and our kids have grown up together. His eldest son was graduating and they were having a hard time getting out of the house on time, so he calls me and says “can you get there early and save us four seats for the graduation ceremony?” So I did and placed four programs on the chairs next to me. It got full fast. Two black women looking for seats saw the seats reserved with the programs, threw two of them on the floor, and sat down while staring at me daring me to say anything. I told them I was saving these seats for friends. One of the “ladies” said “you can go f-yourself because we are sitting here now” in a voice loud enough where many heads turned to see what was going on. Before I could come up with a response, my friends showed up. I explained the situation to them and the father (black) told the ladies (black) I was saving the seats for them. They said “oh, we didn't know” and they moved. The father gave me a pained look and just shrugged his shoulders.

Read into this event what you will.

35 posted on 12/09/2014 6:43:14 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The issue is not race, it is culture.

A Black man who appears to be civilized suffers NO diminution of respect or rights. In fact, he might even have an advantage.

Thugs on the other hand are treated like thugs.

Black Americans need to recognize that the thugs among them deserve what they get.

36 posted on 12/09/2014 6:43:35 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: petercooper

Same thing happened to me at a Hannaford the day after the MB Grand Jury decison was made. I was pushing a shopping cart and walking into the store. There was this 300lb black man talking out loud to everyone. I moved around the store getting what I needed but he seemed to be everywhere I was. Nothing came of it. Whites are non-confrontational.

Not anymore!


37 posted on 12/09/2014 6:44:00 AM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
what happened to me back in 1959

Wow.

Can't blame that on gangster rap, hip-hop music, political correctness, Fat Albert, $hakedown Je$$e, the '60s, or any of the usual cultural scapegoats. That's just a nasty, evil, violent, bigoted individual who was brought up wrong and trained to do worse.

38 posted on 12/09/2014 6:45:27 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
In the late 60’s we lived out in the country and my 2 little boys rode the school bus. The black kids lived farther out and they were on the bus when my boys got on. One day they told me that they were harassed by the black kids every day. That was the last day they ever rode the school bus.
39 posted on 12/09/2014 6:48:51 AM PST by Ditter
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To: SeekAndFind

They have no idea what “open season” will actually look like.


40 posted on 12/09/2014 6:52:41 AM PST by The Toll
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