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Deer hunter’s 8-point trophy wasn’t a buck
The Wichita Eagle ^ | Updated 12/06/2014 7:11 AM | Michael Pearce

Posted on 12/08/2014 7:29:35 AM PST by Paleo Conservative

Hunters from all parts of the country come to Kansas hoping to shoot a buck with a trophy-class set of antlers.

Well, for Chuck Rorie, half of the dream came true Wednesday afternoon when he shot what he thought was a nice buck. Instead, the set of eight-point antlers were attached to a doe.

“I didn’t think much about it; it just looked like a nice buck when I was watching it and shot it,” said Rorie, of Monroe, N.C. “But when I was skinning it I realized something didn’t look right. It didn’t have the right private parts.

“I whispered to my dad to look because I didn’t want to sound like some (dummy). When he looked, said he saw (female parts), too.

“I’m tickled to death. I know this is a once in a lifetime thing.”

According to biologists, it’s actually more like a once in many lifetimes thing.

“I think the last number I heard at a scientific meeting was something like one in about 10,000 will have antlers,” said Grant Woods, a Missouri-based biologist with 25 years’ experience researching whitetail deer who hosts a television show on deer management. “It’s rare, but it’s certainly going to happen.”

Keith Sexson, assistant secretary for the Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks and Tourism, has been with the agency for 46 years, mostly as a biologist. He estimates he has heard of no more than 15 antlered does in Kansas in all that time.

“Really, that may be a high number,” he said. “I know it hasn’t been very often.”

Woods said does with antlers are simply does with high amounts of testosterone, a hormone found in all does, though normally in very low amounts. It happens in most species of mammals.

“Excessive testosterone is why some women have more facial hair than others,” he said. “In deer, that’s expressed in antler growth.”

Woods also said that in-depth research on antlered does is fairly limited, but added that most does with antlers only have short, spindly antlers. Rorie’s 225-pound doe had fairly thick antlers about 17 inches wide, with eight normal-size points. He said his doe’s antlers were also shiny and rock-hard, like you would expect from a buck’s headgear.

Frequently, according to Woods, antlered does have fuzzy antlers still covered in what’s known as velvet, a soft covering antlers have when they’re growing. In bucks, that’s basically May through August. High testosterone levels cause bucks to rub the velvet from their antlers before the autumn breeding season, and to eventually shed their antlers in the winter so a new set can begin growing.

Most does that have enough hormone to spur antler growth lack enough testosterone to cause the deer to polish or shed their antlers. Again, that’s what helps make Rorie’s whitetail pretty unique.

“They just looked like a nice set of eight-point antlers,” Rorie said. “You could see tree bark on the antlers where she’d been rubbing them against trees, like a buck.”

Rorie was hunting in western Sedgwick County with Anthony Youngers, a native of that area now living in North Carolina. Youngers, and his Kansas family, hosted Rorie and several others from North Carolina on their family farm and property owned by neighbors.

Wednesday was opening day of firearms deer season, and Rorie was in a wooden ground blind overlooking a hay field. Several does came out to feed. In a few minutes three young bucks came to the field and started chasing those does around the field, hoping to get a chance to breed.

What Rorie thought was the fourth buck was last to come out on to the field. Impressed with the antlers, he shot it.

In hindsight he said he should have noticed that deer’s neck wasn’t swollen like those of the other lust-fueled bucks, and the deer was also colored more like the does in the field than the bucks. It also wasn’t chasing the does.

“It was … trying to follow the does around, but they wanted nothing to do with her,” Rorie said. “I guess they saw the antlers and just assumed.”

Though rare and impressive, the antlers on Rorie’s doe are far from the largest ever found on a female whitetail deer. Woods said many antlered does have clusters of points going in all directions, known as cactus racks. They happen because the antlers don’t completely harden, or fall off, and each year more and more keep growing.

In 2008, a Kansas hunter near Clay Center shot a doe with 27 points and 179 inches of antler based on the Boone and Crockett scoring system.

The antlers of Rorie’s Kansas deer score about 115 inches, and he has plans on getting the deer mounted. No matter whether on a buck or on a doe, he said the antlers would be considered exceptional around his home in North Carolina.

“We don’t have many big bucks,” he said. “So when a guy brings a buck into the processor I’ll be able to tell him I’ve killed a doe a lot bigger than that buck they just shot.

“I’ll have a lot of fun with this.”

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/outdoors/article4304625.html#storylink=cpy


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Kansas
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To: Doulos1

Imagine that...a chick with a nice rack!


41 posted on 12/08/2014 8:13:59 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Paleo Conservative

Show a North East city dweller (NYC) that picture and he will think it’s a horse with a gland problem.


42 posted on 12/08/2014 8:18:19 AM PST by duckman
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To: Paleo Conservative

Yeah, it’s pretty rare to find a girl with a nice rack by me, too.

CC


43 posted on 12/08/2014 8:20:17 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (Hodie Christus Natus est!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
It didn’t have the right private parts.

Deer have "private parts"?

44 posted on 12/08/2014 8:31:27 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: dfwgator

45 posted on 12/08/2014 8:34:19 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

“Oh see the dear....”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL5FjvH3AJc


46 posted on 12/08/2014 8:37:56 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Paleo Conservative

Oh no! HATE CRIME! He killed a transgender deer! Call out the LGQBTC Brown Shirts! March in the streets! Demand justice!


47 posted on 12/08/2014 8:39:08 AM PST by Flatus I. Maximus (Obstruct. Oppose. Overthrow. Obama.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Wells?

SoPo?

Bangah?

I don’t get around enough anymore!

Friend grew up in Ogunquit and told me if one dropped his wallet in the town confines, one kicked the wallet over the town line before picking it up.


48 posted on 12/08/2014 8:51:00 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Oh nice, a Horny Doe.

I bet she never gets in a Rut during mating season.

Ba da Bing...

Be here all week folks.


49 posted on 12/08/2014 9:42:57 AM PST by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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To: VRWCarea51

50 posted on 12/08/2014 9:51:19 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Paleo Conservative

“It was … trying to follow the does around, but they wanted nothing to do with her,” Rorie said.

Nobody wants a queer deer.


51 posted on 12/08/2014 10:31:30 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I hate when that happens.
When I was a younger lad, my good old buddy picked up a floozy in a sleazy bar... he was not too drunk, she said her name was Pat...

...anyway, what an odd deer.


52 posted on 12/08/2014 10:40:14 AM PST by Bon mots (Peace is the answer.)
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To: Chickensoup
That's BANG-Ore.

To pronounce it otherwise marks one as a native of Massholia, a state somewhat to the south. Ted Kennedy was famous for saying "Bang-ah? I haadly noo'ah."

BTW, if your friend grew up in Ogunquit, he needs your sympathy, but don't turn your back.

53 posted on 12/08/2014 10:41:41 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

LGBT* to protest the murder of their “sister/brother” in the struggle for equality!

/sarc tag needed?
//I knew some animals had “homosexual” tendencies for domination, but never knew of “transsexual” animals.


54 posted on 12/08/2014 12:30:03 PM PST by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. ItÂ’s been found hard and not tried')
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To: MrB

but will she be allowed to marry in Kansas and is she allowed to pick her restroom of choice?


55 posted on 12/08/2014 12:35:36 PM PST by KC Burke (Gowdy for Supreme Court)
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To: Kenny Bunk; Chickensoup

For 80 plus years (I’m sure for the first couple years of my life I had no reason to utter the word Bangor) I have pronounced it Bang-Gore (soft g, hard g) but whatever.


56 posted on 12/08/2014 12:48:52 PM PST by upcountry miss
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To: upcountry miss; Kenny Bunk

Out ta Famin’ton way tis called Bahngar


57 posted on 12/08/2014 1:51:46 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: upcountry miss; Kenny Bunk

Out ta Famin’ton way tis called Bahngar

jeeszuly


58 posted on 12/08/2014 1:52:13 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Well, a buck is a little doe ;-)


59 posted on 12/08/2014 2:08:43 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: upcountry miss
Bang-Gore

Ayuh, you win the prize for phonetic spelling of proper English. However, in Ted Kennedy's defense, I never heard nothin' bout him and Gore.

Attention all FReepers from away. Lissen up. it's

BANG-GORE.

60 posted on 12/09/2014 2:07:13 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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