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Why Increasing Antarctic Sea Ice Doesn't Mean Climate Change Isn't Happening
Business Insider ^ | December 4, 2014 | by CHELSEA HARVEY

Posted on 12/06/2014 9:05:00 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Antarctic sea ice reached a record high this year, topping 20 million square kilometers (nearly 8 million square miles) in September — a milestone it hadn't touched since 1979.

It's a fact climate change deniers are fond of repeating. If the planet is warming, shouldn't sea ice be melting away rather than growing?

It's true that the phenomenon is a confusing one — but it's no proof that climate change isn't happening. In fact, scientists believe that climate change is actually responsible for the strange events down in the Antarctic.

The first thing to note is that sea ice and land ice are two completely different things.

Snowfall could also be a factor. It's unclear how much snowfall has fluctuated over the past few decades in Antarctica, but experts believe it will increase as the climate continues to warm.

Even wind could be part of the answer. Climate change is altering weather patterns all over the globe.

So while the Earth's natural processes may sometimes be strange and confusing, there's no reason to doubt that climate change is really happening. In fact, science indicates that it may be responsible for some of the most surprising phenomena we're observing on the planet.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antarctic; antarctica; chelseaharvey; climate; climatechangehoax; drivel; globalwarminghoax; hoax; liberalagenda; marxism; socialism; taxtheworld
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To: Democrat_media
ice is growing in Antarctica. and it has been growing for quite some time. that means the Earth is cooling

Only at the South Pole. It grows and shrinks every year. Sometimes more , sometimes less.

Same thing happens at the North Pole, more or less.

what about that don’t you understand ,

Why you are having a knee jerk reaction about me explaining to you that GLOBAL WARMING is a fact. It either is a fact, or there were not glaciers across half of North America back during the Ice Age. Which do you choose ?

NOW, the idea that man is causing GLOBAL WARMING is a hoax. While that may be what you meant, it is not what you said. I was merely trying to get you to INCLUDE that idea in your 'thinking' and posting, but you decided to act like a jerk.

you puppet of the media?

See what I mean ?

you can take all your fake government funded data and go put it right by your copy of the ny times

You have misread me this whole time, and while I admit it may be my fault for not being more clear, you can quit anytime. You aren't dealing with the subject, you are trying to make it personal. You are letting emotion control you simply because you couldn't stand it when I tried to clarify your remark. Grow up.

101 posted on 12/06/2014 10:24:45 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Olog-hai

Here’s her resume:

http://www.chelseaharvey.com/resume.html

She’s a Journo major, which means she’s not qualified to write on this subject, or any other.


102 posted on 12/06/2014 10:31:14 AM PST by PLMerite (Why did my tagline disappear? I didn't delete it.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Not sitting around worried about warming or cooling. My ability to adapt hasn’t even come close to the tolerance level. I assume my grandchildren will be equally adaptable.

Much ado about nothing. Add a blanket or take one off, lets live the life we have.

My latest theory is that desalt plants will cause us to use enough ocean water in the long haul to negate the sea level increases Al Bore is so afraid of. Let’s drink our way out of it.


103 posted on 12/06/2014 10:33:00 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Defund , sue, impeach. Overturn Obamacare, amnesty.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H. L. Mencken

"The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes." - Thomas Paine

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. Their very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be ‘cured’ against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals." -C.S. Lewis.

"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." ~ H.L. Mencken"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." ~ H.L. Mencken

104 posted on 12/06/2014 10:43:06 AM PST by sourcery (Without the right to self defense, there can be no rights at all.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Scientific investigation shows that Ice Ages are the norm on Planet Ape during the recent past. We will be drinking a lot during the next one, but it won’t be pure water. Lol. And what we have to worry about today, is a dramatic change in weather patterns that eventually led to mile high glaciers moving south. First comes the weather, then many 100’s of years later, comes the glaciers. And then there is the real monkey wrench. The euroweenies and us oligarchs have been conducting numerous black box projects to cool the planet.


105 posted on 12/06/2014 10:46:50 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

My ex-wife would put hot water in ice cube trays and claimed it froze faster than cold water. Nothing I could say would convince her she was wrong. I’m guessing she is an AGW chicken little now.


106 posted on 12/06/2014 10:58:55 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There is BIG MONEY to be made in the artificial industry of Climate Change Theology, which explains why Business Week whores out its credibility in defense of this indefensible fabrication. They might just as well tell us that hypothermia is actually caused by summer heat - with a straight face and with an expensive “solution” to fix it. Of course the “science” is too complex for all but the Climate Change priesthood to understand. There is always big money to be made from false religions.


107 posted on 12/06/2014 11:01:43 AM PST by Always A Marine
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The climate has been changeing every single year for a few million years...

To say; THIS IS UNUSUAL... is blonde logic...

Which can be pretty "HOT"... sometimes..

108 posted on 12/06/2014 11:48:12 AM PST by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Obama’s “Climate Education and Literacy Initiative”: How Do You Spell “I-N-D-O-C-T-R-I-N-A-T-I-O-N”?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3234413/posts


109 posted on 12/06/2014 11:54:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: UCANSEE2
well what the democrats are saying is that global warming is heating up the Earth so much that the Earth is being destroyed . they have been saying that major US cities will be under water in a few years or decades. they predicted that global warming was such a threat that by now the ice caps would have melted , that snow would be rare etc. that is what democrats and the media mean when they scream “global warming” . well that is a lie. that is what i mean by global warming is a lie as it is not a threat . there's been no warming for 20 years using their biased data. so that tells me it's probably cooling. and there is more ice in Antarctica than in decades. and NO it is not melting as fast as it used to do so in the summer . it is growing and that is on the internet. also the north polar ice caps have also increased recently. so global warming as our mainstream media , scientists etc. today mean is a lie , a hoax. there's been no warming in 20 .

it's the same thing as the ebola threat. the media made it seem like ebola was a threat to the USA .now the elecdtion is over so the massive media coverage of ebola is gone.

so global warming is not a threat. the media means to scare the public into acccepting a socialist dictaorship and allow gov to destroy capitalism .that is why they lie and say global warming is a threat. it's not .there is no global warming.

do you believe the media when they say the Earth will warm considerably so much the ice caps will melt , cities inundated etc?

110 posted on 12/06/2014 11:57:28 AM PST by Democrat_media (The media is the problem. reporters are just democrat political activists posing as reporters)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Chelsea says, “Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes.?”


111 posted on 12/06/2014 12:04:45 PM PST by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one... what's your plan?)
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To: sourcery
“The whole aim of practical politics (AND THE MEDIA ) is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H. L. Mencken
112 posted on 12/06/2014 12:23:13 PM PST by Democrat_media (The media is the problem. reporters are just democrat political activists posing as reporters)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Democrat_media; Chode

I’m surprised the oceans haven’t boiled over.

: )


113 posted on 12/06/2014 12:24:04 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2; Democrat_media; Chode

The hard left still hasn’t figured out how to boil the ocean : )


114 posted on 12/06/2014 12:31:07 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“could be”, “confusing”, blah, blah, blah. Why not just say it with conviction instead of couching your worthless document in undocumented and unprovable “science”!?


115 posted on 12/06/2014 12:44:06 PM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Democrat_media

Well, we completely agree. All I was trying to point out was that there was global warming, and global cooling.

The GW or CC(climate change) alarmists would have us believe that mankind’s input has radically changed the average temperature of the Earth and that it will continue to rise out of control and that CO2 produced by man is the culprit.

As someone else mentioned, we need to concentrate on the actual poisons we put in the air, and not CO2.
It’s not that mankind has not influenced the surface temperature of the planet. Asphalt parking lots, superhighways, downtown in major cities, industrial areas, air coming out of every car exhaust. Heat islands, and in the case of vehicles, heat rivers.

But it is a small effect, and only locally. ONE CLOUD can drop the temperature in a huge area several degrees in just seconds. Nothing we have can duplicate that effect.


116 posted on 12/06/2014 12:44:40 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Democrat_media; Chode
They would soil their underwear if they knew about this place.

The Boiling Lake in Dominica is remotely located, 200 feet deep and straight-up boiling, 24/7. No, it's not "kind of warm" and "really bubbly, so it looks like it's boiling," like a natural hot spring. If you take a therapeutic dip in the Boiling Lake, you'll come out poached. The water temperature at the edge of the Boiling Lake sits at 197 degrees Fahrenheit on average. That's on the shore; no measurements at all have been taken at the center, where the water is perpetually roiling, because, well, would you want to kayak out into a giant cookpot with a thermometer?

From: The 5 Most Spectacular Landscapes on Earth (That Murder You)

117 posted on 12/06/2014 12:51:15 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

LOL


118 posted on 12/06/2014 12:57:04 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
perfect!
119 posted on 12/06/2014 1:08:56 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Incredibly ignorant article.


120 posted on 12/06/2014 1:10:44 PM PST by David in Cal
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