Posted on 12/03/2014 2:05:50 PM PST by blam
So...what do you do when the Blacks won't follow those rules either?
You have me mistaken for someone else.
I blame the idiots who make laws that force cops to deal with pointless petty laws.
Exactly right. If the cops had just chased him and let him go as fast as he was capable, he probably would have died of a heart attack without even being touched by the police.
Like I said, NYC isn’t fly over country.
I understand that. I don't like when they bother me for drinking a beer outside when I know there are serious crimes going on elsewhere. But I would never refuse to comply with a police officer who asks me for my ID, etc. Once you do that it's an entirely different matter.
A grand jury announced its decision Wednesday to not indict Daniel Pantaleo, an NYPD officer who held an African-American man in an apparent chokehold during an arrest last July.
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I notice that the media is now using words like apparent and alleged now, but they weren’t before.
Paramedics were called and he suffered a heart attack in transport (based on other accounts that I have read). I suspect that police who are not licensed paramedics are prevented by liability policy from rendering aid.
I heard on fox or cnn that the family is suing for 75 million
I’d probably give them the money. We had a deal like this in OKC. Cops killed a guy who had done NOTHING wrong in much the same manner. This isn’t a race thing. This is thug police in this video.
Let say a cop stop you for the smallest of “crime” say jaywalking.. and he give you a ticket.. the ticket is to go to court to have a judge decided IF your guilty or not guilty and what your fine will be if your are guilty. .
But you have to sign the ticket to promise to show up in court in the first place...
So if you say to the cop “I'm not signing, am not going, what you going to do about it, you can not stop me”...
It can not become a pissing contest between you and the cop that if YOU resist stronger and longer then the cop is willing to go....you get out of it.
That the problem, the rules are.. the cop always wins he has to win.. else ever one else gets to beat any and all laws by resisting the cop... this is why bad laws destroy good laws.. mix the two and it soon becomes no law..
The cig tax law in this case is stupid crap.....But did the cop start this stop for this law with a sleeper hold or did it start off with in reason and then the guy resisted and in escalated? ..
It not going to end with the cop saying ..”Oh I guess you want to resisted more then I want to stop you so you can go”
So the question is did the cop escalate, use way more the needed to get the guy resisting him...
yes the man die from the struggle... but was that the intention of the cop?..would a reasonable person expect that level of struggle to be fatal.
Or did the cop apply reasonable force the to subdue the guy “resisting arrested” (that independent of the the original issue)
...Dealing with cop is like dealing with with a women...their always "right" (just ask them) ..and you can never get physical violence with the no matter how much they deserve it.. ..
The coroner’s report says the chokehold instigated the man’s death. The heart attack was a secondary CoD.
“In ruling Garner’s death a homicide, the city medical examiner said police officers killed him by compressing his neck and chest.”
No, the thing about facing off with the cops is that you have to have adequate firepower backing you up and then they'll back off. That was the lesson from the Bundy Ranch debacle: If you're going to stare down a SWAT team then bring along 5,000 well regulated militia so the jerks can contemplate whether or not a tyranny is worth dying for.
Absent informing you of their suspicion that you've committed a crime the police have no authority to ask you for ID.
http://www.flexyourrights.org/faqs/when-can-police-ask-for-id/
“If I recall, there was a couple of guys who were trying to render some support to the guy, but it was just not enough. “
Well, they didn’t do a very good job, because his body lay there for about four hours.
“Absent informing you of their suspicion that you’ve committed a crime the police have no authority to ask you for ID.”
You will have a rather difficult time explaining that to them while being dead.
What does a cop have to do to be in trouble...
What does a cop have to do to be in trouble...
“This isn’t a race thing.”
Needs to be repeated.
“And OBAMA has already blasted them for it”
Once in a while, he accidentally gets something right, even if for the wrong reasons. I will give him that much (and only that much) credit.
“What does a cop have to do to be in trouble...”
Apparently, the ratio of armed, trained police to unarmed “perp” has to be 4:1 or less in NYC.
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