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Escalation 101: USA To Deploy 150 Tanks Near Russian Border
MINA ^ | November 26, 2014

Posted on 11/26/2014 8:03:01 AM PST by Fennie

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To: ansel12
The Japanese government pays 100 percent of the cost of American bases and personnel defending Japan.
What do the eastern Europeans pay ?
21 posted on 11/26/2014 8:35:53 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: bert

A 19k / political officer.


22 posted on 11/26/2014 8:36:33 AM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: appalachian_dweller

LOL, outdated? That is the current situation.

A Russian plant would be trying to convince Americans of a mythical Russian military that is entirely too huge and vast and all powerful for the little ole countries of the United States, Great Britain, France, Poland and the other two dozen NATO powers to restrain Russia from conquering them and defeating them on the battle field.


23 posted on 11/26/2014 8:37:00 AM PST by ansel12
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You should start a thread on reducing the American military budget in the face of Russian aggression.


24 posted on 11/26/2014 8:38:10 AM PST by ansel12
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To: Fennie

Speed bump, bad move, can’t end well.

Interesting squib this week... Finland is closely watching Russian ambitions. Russia invaded Finland once before. It didn’t end well for the Russians but it didn’t turn out so well for the Finns either.

Things are not safe. The bear is on the prowl and the oil price situation will wound him and make him even more testy.

Watch a few Russian videos... the people are more nationalistic and reckless drunks than ever before from what I see. Vlad is going to have to give them something to do to stay on seat.


25 posted on 11/26/2014 8:42:23 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Adversity does not build character so much as expose it.)
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To: Fennie

I’ll put M1A2s against anything Vladimir can field armor wise. That is acknowledging that Russian tanks have evolved over the 6ears.


26 posted on 11/26/2014 8:42:49 AM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: ansel12

Lots of information available on what Russia is up to. I suggest you do some reading.

I have many friends who are active and retired military. I think I’ll take their word over yours.

What obama has done to our military is criminal.


27 posted on 11/26/2014 8:43:21 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: ansel12

If it works for Nippon, it should work elsewhere.


28 posted on 11/26/2014 8:44:11 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Putin could see this as a challenge and moves to up the ante, then what?


29 posted on 11/26/2014 8:47:48 AM PST by AU72
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To: AU72
"Putin can instantly put 500 tanks on the Polish border and Poland and NATO and the American Army and Air Force quake in their boots?"

Actually, the Russian armored units are scattered across the country and it would take a massive effort to mobilize and move those forces into position, which would clearly be seen by our satellites. Also, most of the Russian superiority in numbers has been mitigated by the fact that they've moved thousands of armored vehicles into storage facilities. In fact, I read a recent article that said for the first time since the 50s, there's actually more NATO tanks than there are Russian!

30 posted on 11/26/2014 8:48:07 AM PST by aegiscg47
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To: appalachian_dweller

I don’t like what he is doing to our military, but I also dislike the way you have attempted to work it into your pro Russian propaganda.

Trying to portray NATO as Obama, and our military as weak and ineffective, is ridiculous and even obscene.

You are trying to convince us of two things, that the American military is no match for the Russian military, and that NATO consists solely of this inferior American military that you are trying to convince us of.

That is just incredible.


31 posted on 11/26/2014 8:49:09 AM PST by ansel12
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To: Fennie

While an American war effort on the eastern front and a new battle of Kursk sounds really fun, I question why it’s an American duty to defend the foreign policy of the EU to expand and add member states. If they want to do that, let the Germans, Poles, Danes, Spanish and Czechs pay for the whole thing and be 100% of the forces. They contribute a pittance financially, and barely enough troops do ensure their officers get joint command positions.

The EU is like a girlfriend who picks a fight with the Hells Angels at the next table and then looks at you and says “do something!”.

Of course, this means I’m a Kremlin spy.


32 posted on 11/26/2014 8:52:42 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: ansel12

It isn’t NATO’s mission to antagonize and provoke superpowers for no good reason.


33 posted on 11/26/2014 8:55:29 AM PST by Romulus
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To: aegiscg47
it would take a massive effort to mobilize and move those forces into position

I'll take that point, but what NATO is doing will very likely be seen as provocative by Putin who may consider a response. Has that scenario been gamed-out by NATO?

34 posted on 11/26/2014 8:59:22 AM PST by AU72
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To: Fennie

I’ve lost track, did we ever deploy tactical nukes with, or without, neutron warheads? If we did do we still have the capability to do so?

I always thought they were the perfect capitalist tool. Kills armies but leaves property intact.


35 posted on 11/26/2014 8:59:40 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Fennie

Who do we plan to borrow the tanks from?


36 posted on 11/26/2014 9:00:45 AM PST by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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To: ansel12
I don't have an agenda.

I'm not portraying NATO has obama. I haven't mentioned nato.

I'm simply telling you that as obama guts what's left of our military, russia is spending billions updating their military cabablilites.

You have no idea what is going on in military circles and I'm not going to disclose that information over a public forum.

Again, your information is flawed and outdated.

37 posted on 11/26/2014 9:00:55 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: Romulus

LOL, it is NATO’s mission to always be prepared to protect itself, and having the defensive weapons and men stationed within it’s own borders, is at the top of that list of defensive measures.

Especially when Russia is invading neighbors.


38 posted on 11/26/2014 9:05:31 AM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12

It aint the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog! Sorry for going bumper sticker on you but who has the willingness, ruthlessness, and strategic sense to actually employ their forces?

You can appreciate Putin’s strategery without approving of Putin. Plus, when you compare him to a vacillating whining immoral regulating gun grabbing anti carbon pro greenie western leader he appears to be VLAD!


39 posted on 11/26/2014 9:06:03 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: appalachian_dweller

You responded to my one sentence post on NATO, on a thread about NATO.

So far you keep hinting that you know secrets that you cannot post on a public forum, yet for some reason you can’t post any facts to challenge for instance, the current information in post 15.

You instead do the ultimate internet kids game, claiming that you are too privy to military secrets to even find the words to describe the facts of this super Russian military that you claim that the American military (and NATO) is no match for, without revealing military secrets.


40 posted on 11/26/2014 9:11:48 AM PST by ansel12
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