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Illegal immigrants could receive Social Security, Medicare under Obama action
Washington Post ^ | 15 Nov 14 | Karen Tumulty

Posted on 11/26/2014 2:40:04 AM PST by SkyPilot

Under President Obama’s new program to protect millions of illegal immigrants from deportation, many of those affected will be eligible to receive Social Security, Medicare and a wide array of other federal benefits, a White House official said Tuesday.

In his speech Thursday night, the president touted his plan as a means of bringing accountability to a broken immigration system, under which 11 million or more people are estimated to be living in this country illegally.

“We’re going to offer the following deal: If you’ve with been in America more than five years. If you have children who are American citizens or [legal] residents. If you register, pass a criminal background check and you’re willing to pay your fair share of taxes, you’ll be able to apply to stay in this country temporarily without fear of deportation,” he said. “You can come out of the shadows and get right with the law.”

For those who work, that includes payroll taxes, also known as FICA taxes, because they are collected under the Federal Insurance Contributions Act.

The tax payments are usually split between employer and employee and include 12.4 percent collected to pay for Social Security, as well as 2.9 percent to pay for Medicare.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; ebt; entitlements; executiveamnesty; fica; foodstamps; illegals; illegalsinvasion; irs; islam; medicaid; medicare; obama; section8; socialsecurity; ss; tanf; welfare
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To: SkyPilot

Top comment on the WP thread by “Bak.”

You lying, pathetic, leftist propagandist press corps. Tell the whole story, just once, please. The American people deserve to know. Don’t you care anything about your children’s future, or your own personal integrity? ILLEGALS have been accessing and ripping off all these federal entitlement programs for years! Illegals can’t get food stamps? Utter BS! Our government advertises these handouts in Mexico! Illegals can’t get obamacare? Total BS! How can you even print those words knowing the truth is easily accessible by every single American with an internet connection? You’re lying, you know you’re lying, we know you’re lying. Anyone who cares to do the most simple, basic, internet search can find the honest facts about these entitlement sucking illegal alien handouts and fraud. Like the $6 billion in fraudulent and illegal payouts to illegal aliens through the earned income tax credit, that once confronted the IRS boldly proclaimed- “nope, sorry, can’t fix that”. EVERY, SINGLE, taxpayer funded entitlement handout EVER offered by any government agency, has been illegally ripped off by the illegal foreigners FOREVER, and all with a wink and a nod from the progressive dominated bureaucracies who know full well their actions are illegal. All Obama’s order does is serve to swell the ranks of illegals who are willing to access these programs. Specifically those that chose not to in the past because of the perceived risk in doing so. To conclude, I notice you chose not to include the number from the most recent study about what these illegals will cost taxpayers. Which is odd since you love and champion any study, no matter how absurd or convoluted, when it helps the leftist meme. So here it is- $2 TRILLION!!! $2 trillion of hard working Americans tax dollars to pay off an support Obama’s illegal alien invaders. While our own citizens Medicare, social security, unemployment, and other benefits get cut. That’s not just unconstitutional. It’s criminal. It’s treasonous.


21 posted on 11/26/2014 4:50:55 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SkyPilot

Excuse the spelling but; Clowerd/Pivon.


22 posted on 11/26/2014 4:55:19 AM PST by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun free zones?)
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To: SkyPilot
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23 posted on 11/26/2014 4:58:25 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: FreedomStar3028
When we take the WH. Reverse it, and start deporting. Not hard.

It's not hard, except we are dealing with the gutless old party. I don't know if they will grow a pair. We can always hope for the best, but they have priors.

24 posted on 11/26/2014 5:03:48 AM PST by Mark17 (So gracious and tender was He. I claimed Him that day as my saviour, this stranger of Galilee)
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To: Ray76

If this is true, then that automatically kicks it into hearings by Congress required by law.

How can the republicans not know this?


25 posted on 11/26/2014 5:15:58 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Mark17

I lived in Mexico for almost 10 years in the late 80’s - 90’s. They had no issues deporting hundreds of thousands of Guatemalans, Cubans, Haitians, Dominicans, hell...even Africans who stuck out like a sore thumb over there.

No issues whatsoever. Nobody down there (even the illegals) claimed “racism”. It CAN be done here...does the American public have the will to do it. Probably not...Americans are gutless sloths who could give a d@mn about their nation.

This nation was toast decades ago with the influx of millions of 3rd worlders who are totally incompatible with civilized society. Bush & Obama just iced the cake.


26 posted on 11/26/2014 5:28:06 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
This nation was toast decades ago with the influx of millions of 3rd worlders who are totally incompatible with civilized society. Bush & Obama just iced the cake.

I am just cynical enough to think that the influx of third worlders, was a deliberate attempt by the leftists, to make this country toast. It was planned from day one. Now, is that cynical or what?

27 posted on 11/26/2014 5:42:42 AM PST by Mark17 (So gracious and tender was He. I claimed Him that day as my saviour, this stranger of Galilee)
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To: kearnyirish2

They won’t pay a dime.


28 posted on 11/26/2014 5:54:22 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: Mark17
I am just cynical enough to think that the influx of third worlders, was a deliberate attempt by the leftists, to make this country toast.

The announcement that the Liar-in-Chief made was on the Spanish TV stations. It was meant to spread the word. He is flooding the boarders, deliberately. The signature of the community organizers is to create as much crisis, strife and chaos. Pitting one group against another. Everything is planned by these idiots.

29 posted on 11/26/2014 6:02:57 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Es Mi Partido, Ahora!)
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To: SkyPilot

That’s the plan.

If you thought otherwise you are ignorant, stupid or both.


30 posted on 11/26/2014 6:25:23 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: SkyPilot

Obama (Sep. 2009): "There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false – the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."



31 posted on 11/26/2014 6:31:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SkyPilot

They have been getting WIC among other bennies for years.....


32 posted on 11/26/2014 6:40:44 AM PST by kneehurts
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To: SkyPilot

Well then thank God that the gop majority in congress will step up and stop it....

BWAHAHAHAHA...

I make myself laugh....(snort)


33 posted on 11/26/2014 7:28:39 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (No flatscreens, no peace!)
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To: Mark17

“I am just cynical enough to think that the influx of third worlders, was a deliberate attempt by the leftists, to make this country toast. It was planned from day one. Now, is that cynical or what?”

I’m about as cynical as you are when it comes to this topic. It is deliberate IMO.


34 posted on 11/26/2014 7:37:39 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: SkyPilot

Legalizing 5 million people is just another good way to collapse the system. Remember Barky only has 2 more years to destroy the country.


35 posted on 11/26/2014 8:02:51 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SkyPilot

” pass a criminal background check”

Which will be waived when the system gets overwhelmed with requests.


36 posted on 11/26/2014 8:23:45 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: ecomcon

I think you’re right; there is little incentive for the illegals to become taxable entities (since they get the freebies regardless). I also doubt those working have employers that are going to rush to make matching Social Security payments, provide workers compensation insurance, etc.


37 posted on 11/26/2014 11:42:44 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: FreedomStar3028

“If you are here illegally, you are a criminal and are committing a crime. You should be dealt with, WHY DO WE LET THIS GO ON?!”

I hear you and I totally agree with you but the wetbacks
are only half the problem. The people who employ them is
the other half and not the better. I think that people who
hire the wetbacks should do mandatory 10 years in the pen
and everything they own confiscated as ill gotten gains.
The criminal employers need to pay.


38 posted on 11/26/2014 1:14:56 PM PST by Slambat
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To: SkyPilot
..and our own American, formerly hard-working senior citizens on social security, who helped make America the greatest country in the world, haven't had a cost of living raise in how many years??

There's no money because Obama pours it down Islamic sh*t holes who hate us.

The average American hasn’t a CLUE how much of our tax money Obama has sent down Muslim sh*t holes while he plans to slash the military, CUTS MEDICARE and threatens to withhold senior’s social security checks!

BILLIONS FOR JIHAD! Obamas 2009 Supplemental Appropriations for Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Pandemic Flu was revised and passed by the full committee. It gives billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to countries and entities that support Sharia law and/or harbor, hide and support those who want to destroy the U.S. and our allies. http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/05/1...

Read the summary from David Obeys office that was quietly released last week with nary a word from any media.

$3.6 BILLION, matching the request, to expand and improve capabilities of the Afghan security forces

$400 MILLION, as requested, to build the counterinsurgency capabilities of the Pakistani security forces

AFGHANISTAN: $1.52 BILLION, $86 MILLION above the request WEST BANK AND GAZA: $665 MILLION in bilateral economic, humanitarian, and security assistance for the West Bank and Gaza

JORDAN: $250 million,$250 million above the request, including $100 million for economic and $150 million for security assistance

EGYPT: $360 MILLION, $310 million above the request, including $50 million for economic assistance,$50 million for border security, and $260 million for security assistance

PAKISTAN:$1.9 billion,$591 million above the request

IRAQ:$968 MILLION,$336 million above the request

Oversight: $20 million,$13 million above the request, to expand oversight capacity of the State Department, USAID, and the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan to review programs in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq

Lebanon:$74 million

International Food Assistance:$500 MILLION,$200 million above the request, for PL 480 international food assistance to alleviate suffering during the global economic crisis

REFUGEE ASSISTANCE:$343 MILLION,$50 million above the request, including humanitarian assistance for Gaza.

Funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency programs in the West Bank and Gaza is limited to $119 million (Note: Gaza = Hamas)

Disaster Assistance: $200 MILLION to avert famines and provide life-saving assistance during natural disasters and for internally displaced people around the world, including Somalia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, the Middle East and South Asia

Peacekeeping:$837 MILLION FOR UNITED NATIONS peacekeeping operations, including an expanded mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and a new mission in Chad and the Central African Republic

Department of Justice: $17 million, matching the request, for counter-terrorism activities and to provide training and assistance for the Iraqi criminal justice system

OBAMA GIVES YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO REBUILD MUSLIM MOSQUES AROUND THE WORLD! http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/... #,

ACCORDING TO THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WILL GIVE AWAY NEARLY $6 MILLION OF AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS TO RESTORE 63 HISTORIC AND CULTURAL SITES, INCLUDING ISLAMIC MOSQUES AND MINARETS, IN 55 NATIONS. See the State Department document here. http://exchanges.state.gov/media/pdfs/office-...

And THAT’S just the tip of the iceberg.

THIS will blow your mind!! http://gbk.eads.usaidallnet.gov/ They should have 2010 up, but they don’t. That’s where you’ll find Obama’s largesse towards Muslim countries really go off the charts.

http://www.foreignassistance.gov/DataView.aspx charts: http://gbk.eads.usaidallnet.gov/data/fast-facts.html .

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Obama Increased Foreign Aid 80%; Spent 76% More on Foreign Aid Than Border Security cnsnews

CNSNews.com) - From fiscal 2008 to fiscal 2011, according to the U.S. Treasury, the federal government increased spending on foreign aid by 80 percent and, in fiscal 2011, spent 76 percent more on foreign aid than it did securing the borders of the United States.

In fiscal 2008, the government spent a total of $11.427 billion in international assistance programs, according to the Monthly Treasury Statement. In fiscal 2011, according to the statement, it spent $20.599 billion—an increase of $9.172 billion, or 80 percent, from 2008.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-increased-foreign-aid-80-spent-76-more-foreign-aid-border-security

39 posted on 11/27/2014 12:24:20 PM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: patriot08

This is the one thing Democrats do understand and it’s bribery.


40 posted on 11/27/2014 12:25:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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