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Liberal Challenges Mike Rowe to Explain How a Christian (or Anyone) Could Vote Republican
theblaze.com ^ | 11/23/2014 | Dave Urbanski

Posted on 11/24/2014 7:38:47 AM PST by rktman

It may soon become a well-trod adage that when you ask Mike Rowe a snarky, insulting question on his Facebook page, you might find yourself on the receiving end of one of Rowe’s measured, civil, and devastatingly spot-on responses.

So it was with a decidedly left-leaning guy named Jim Green who posted a series of inflammatory points about Republicans (with a lot of ALL-CAPPED words and about the same number of exclamation points), which Rowe apparently spotted while aboard a flight:

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Philosophy
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The tolerant mr. green is probably still confused by the answer.
1 posted on 11/24/2014 7:38:47 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

Oh, just go through the 10 commandments and ask which one the left doesn’t violate,

and then ask why a Christian would vote for a party whose platform is the antithesis of Christian belief.


2 posted on 11/24/2014 7:40:30 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Primarily: “Thou shall not steal”


3 posted on 11/24/2014 7:42:39 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: rktman

How could a Christian vote for a party that ...
* formally supports abortion upto and including the moment of birth
* supports the destruction of traditional marriage and family
* validates and celebrates sodomy
* supports feeding people who are capable of working but refuse to do so
* persecutes public Christian expression
* vilifies Christians that cannot align to their agenda by reason of conscience
* and, worst of all, boos the mention of God at their national convention.


4 posted on 11/24/2014 7:45:37 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: SMARTY

The biggest one is #10. The basis of their “appeal” to their base is covetousness and jealousy.

9... no lying? Yeah, we’ve seen how they uphold that recently...

8... stealing. Taking without consent is stealing. Redistribution is theft.

7... adultery? ‘nuff said

6... murder? Does the most innocent form of human life count?

5... respect your “parents”? Nah, the current generation knows better than them.

4... Sabbath? It’s a day off, isn’t it?

3... Lord’s name? I’ve yet to hear someone cuss “Oh, Buddha” when they hit their thumb with a hammer.

2... Idols? Obama, self, etc.

1... God as One and Only, above all else? Not!


5 posted on 11/24/2014 7:47:26 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rktman

Can government do the work of God (Charity)?

What I have read and understood from the Bible is that God and Jesus wants us to help each other by using our own time, treasure and talent and to give from our hearts (”Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.” - 2 Corinthians 9:7). Nowhere have I found anything along the lines of “Go out and institute huge bureaucracies that will take money from some people at the point of a sword and give that money to other people as a politician sees fit.”

Our Founding Fathers were Christian and very pious men. They founded this country under strong Judeo-Christian tenets and reflected on their religious beliefs on all their decisions. They wrote nothing into the Constitution of any type of government “aid” to help the poor, children or anyone else on purpose. They wanted a very limited government for good reason. Limited government is the best way to ensure that freedom will be preserved. The Scottish philosopher Alexander Tytler, who lived during the time of the American Revolution and writing of the US Constitution, summed these views:

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure.

From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s great civilizations has been two hundred years.

These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage.”

There are many interesting questions if citizens rely on government to do “God’s Work.”

If a government takes a portion of a man’s wages and does good with it, has the man also done good? If a government takes away a portion of a woman’s property and does evil with it, has the woman also done evil? When a rich man pays more in taxes than a poor person, is he more Godly? If the government then does evil, is he more to blame? A woman works for the government and uses other people’s tax money and does “God Work” with it, is this government woman now a good/Godly woman? If I legally try to avoid paying taxes, does that not make me an “Ungodly” man?

Today, the US government (federal, state and local) takes nearly 50% of a middle-class person’s paycheck after all taxes are factored in (income taxes, Social Security, sales tax, real estate taxes, gas tax, death taxes, phone taxes, highway tolls, sad etc.). Uncle Sam will spend more money in just this year (2004) than it spent combined between 1787 and 1900 - even after adjusting for inflation. I cringe at those numbers. The Founding Fathers wanted nothing like the tax-consuming monster that we have as a government today. I also think of all the good work that could have be done if people were allowed to keep more of their own money and give it to organizations/people that they believe in their heart are doing God’s work. Maybe it comes down to trust. Will people do the right thing with their own money or must a government take a huge chunk of it to do the “right things?”

Except government rarely does anything right except for those tasks that were explicitly outlined in the Constitution as the Founding Father intended. I could cite many examples (such as where would you rather put $10,000 in retirement money - in Social Security or in your own 401k plan?) but the plight of black America illustrates this failure beyond comparison.

In 1965, the US government was going to wipe out poverty by the “Great Society” programs, in which to date over 3.5 trillion dollars has been spent. These federal programs were designed to “help families and children” or “buy votes” depending on your political viewpoint.

At the beginning of the 1960’s, the black out of wedlock birth rate was 22%. In the late 1975 it reached 49% and shot up to 65% in 1989. In some of the largest urban centers of the nation the rate of illegitimacy among blacks today exceeds 80% and averages 69% nationwide. As late as the 1970’s there was still a social stigma attached to a woman who was pregnant outside marriage. Now, government programs have substituted for the father and for black moral leadership. The black family and culture has collapsed (and white families are not that far behind).

Illegitimacy leads directly to poverty, crime and social problems. Out of wedlock children are four times more likely to be poor. They are much more likely to live in high crime areas with no hope of escape. In turn, they are forced to attend dangerous and poor-performing government schools, which directly leads to another generation of poverty.

Traditional black areas of Harlem, Englewood and West Philadelphia in the 1950s were safe working class neighborhoods (even though “poor” by material measures). Women were unafraid to walk at night and children played unmolested in the streets and parks. Today, these are some of the worst crime plagued areas of our nation. Work that was once dignified is now shunned. Welfare does not require recipients to do anything in exchange for their benefits. Many rules actually discourage work or provide benefits that reduce the incentive to find work.

The black abortion rate today is nearly 40%. Pregnancies among black women are twice as likely to end in abortion as pregnancies among white and Hispanic women.

The “Great Society” programs all had good intentions. Unfortunately, their real world results are that they have replaced the traditional/Christian models of family/work with that of what a government bureaucrat thinks it should be.

I could make an excellent argument that if the US government had hired former grand wizards of the KKK to run the “Great Society” programs, and if they had worked every day from 1965 to today without rest, they could have hardly have done better in destroying black America than the “Works of God” that the government has done or is trying to do.

I have visited many countries in which the government “guarantees” that everyone has a job, a place to live, education, health care and cradle to grave “government help” for all children and families. It all sounds great except that the people in these countries are/were miserable. They wanted to escape but were forced by their governments, at the end of a gun, to stay. The “worker’s paradises” of socialist and communist counties are chilling reminders of letting governments do “God’s Work.”

The Bible clearly states that we are to help those in need. The question is “Who should help those in need?” I firmly believe that scripture and the historical evidence strongly support that individuals, private organizations and churches should be the ones doing the heavy lifting. Government help should be the last resort. “Charity,” enforced by the government, is not charity, it is extortion. “Charity,” delivered by the government, is not charity, it is a bribe which corrupts both the giver and the receiver.


6 posted on 11/24/2014 7:48:19 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: rktman

Given the two choices, Republican or Democrat, how could a Christian choose anything but Republican?


7 posted on 11/24/2014 7:48:57 AM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: rktman

I read some of the responses to the responses. One moronodon actually equated MSLSD with Fox News.

Unbelievable.


8 posted on 11/24/2014 7:49:16 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: MrB

Well, for ONE thing, you have to KNOW your parents to respect your parents.... right?


9 posted on 11/24/2014 7:50:36 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: rktman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Rowe


10 posted on 11/24/2014 7:51:16 AM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: SMARTY

I believe that’s definitely part of the picture...

The left has active policies against God’s definition of family.


11 posted on 11/24/2014 7:53:54 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rktman

Mike Rowe might be one of our greatest national treasures.


12 posted on 11/24/2014 8:00:07 AM PST by nodumbblonde ("I'm all for helping the helpless, but I don't give a rat's a** about the clueless." - Dennis Miller)
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To: 2banana

Guess you must have missed the part where the turks claim that one of their muslim explorers found mosques in cuba in the 1100’s. Sure they did............... That should put to rest any talk of a Judeo-Christian foundings. :>}


13 posted on 11/24/2014 8:02:09 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect "their" rights so they can now try to infringe on mine. Weird huh?)
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To: rktman
One of the principal occupations of many liberals is to work themselves into a lather about some imagined crisis i.e. hungry children (or one their policies created) and establish worthless programs to solve the "crisis." Then accuse Republicans or conservatives of deliberately wanting to starve children if they, Republicans, don't 100% support the usually worthless liberal Democrat program.

Like some years ago when Teddy Kennedy authored some bill to increase food stamp allotments or some other giveaway to welfare leeches. The Republicans in congress agreed to pass the bill if the Dems would cut the amount of the increase by a few billion.

Kennedy naturally responded with outrage that Republicans were trying to "cut" the money that was going to be wasted when in fact the Pubbies were actually agreeing to an increase...just not as much as Teddy the Toad wanted. That's the way liberals "think."

14 posted on 11/24/2014 8:03:39 AM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: sauropod

Funny thing is that despite my decline in viewing Foxnews, they still basically kick the other news outlets butts consistently combined. IF (big if) I do watch any news shows, it would still be Fox. Just hearing the others in the airport or some docs office drives me close to the edge.


15 posted on 11/24/2014 8:05:16 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect "their" rights so they can now try to infringe on mine. Weird huh?)
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To: Westbrook
"How could a Christian vote for a party that ...

* formally supports abortion upto and including the moment of birth

* supports the destruction of traditional marriage and family

* validates and celebrates sodomy

* supports feeding people who are capable of working but refuse to do so

* persecutes public Christian expression

* vilifies Christians that cannot align to their agenda by reason of conscience

* and, worst of all, boos the mention of God at their national convention."

Absolutely spot on. Had to reprint in its entirety!

16 posted on 11/24/2014 8:05:19 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Slyfox

They are missing a show he did around 1998 or 99 called Romantic Escapes on TLC


17 posted on 11/24/2014 8:05:46 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Slyfox

Now that’s weird. I was born in MD as well. Stayed for about 3 days then decided to go home to VA for a couple of months then to Guam. LOL! Tough choices for an infant.


18 posted on 11/24/2014 8:07:41 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect "their" rights so they can now try to infringe on mine. Weird huh?)
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To: Westbrook

I would add...

Government control of everything, to include the propagandizing and data mining of children, through Common Core, and the same applies to adults through the IRS.

This doesn’t even begin to address the bureaucratic nightmare in Washington DEE CEE that is hell bent on stealing every individual right enumerated in the Constitution of the United States of America while a complicit congress sits on it’s dead donkey, hoping we the people won’t notice.

...and the democrat focus on removing corporate money in political campaigns in the so called citizens united case that we the people fortunately won for now.


19 posted on 11/24/2014 8:10:35 AM PST by wita
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To: rktman

Is the text of Rowe’s response somewhere else? The Blaze website is defective.


20 posted on 11/24/2014 8:10:55 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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