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With Murder Rate Far Beyond US Levels, Russia Legalizes Carry of Guns for Self-Defense
Breitbart ^ | 19 Nov 2014 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 11/20/2014 6:53:09 AM PST by george76

prior to this change “Russians were only allowed to own firearms for hunting or target practice.” Because of this, there are only “13 million” privately owned firearms in Russia compared to approximately 310 million the US. On the other hand, “there were 21,603 murders in Russia” in 2009 compared with just over 13,600 in the US, “which has a population almost twice as large [as Russia].”

In other words, in the past few years fewer guns equaled more murder in Russia while more guns equaled fewer murders in the US.

Under the new law, Russians can acquire a license to carry a firearm for self-defense. The license has to be “renewed every five years” and applicants must “undergo background checks and take a safety course.”

The law allows licensed Russians to carry a variety of different guns.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; murderrate; secondamendment; selfdefense

1 posted on 11/20/2014 6:53:09 AM PST by george76
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To: george76

Pretty sure that the new congress in January will pass a similar bill here in the U.S. that negates all the niggling little POS anti gun laws in the various states. No? Well crap. I still ain’t movin’ to Russia. :>}


2 posted on 11/20/2014 6:56:13 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect "their" rights so they can now try to infringe on mine. Weird huh?)
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3 posted on 11/20/2014 6:56:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: george76
With all the vodka and crazy Ruskies, it should make for some interesting roadcam vids.
Still, good news for the average Russian.
4 posted on 11/20/2014 6:56:25 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: george76

Imagine that! Guns deter crimes! Who would have thunk?!?!?!................


5 posted on 11/20/2014 6:56:30 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: george76

Pooty trusts his people more tban GayMuzzie:

You ever think you’d live to see THAT...?


6 posted on 11/20/2014 6:56:31 AM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Frankly, no, not in Russia, under anyone. Russia’s leadership and governments of all stripes have had a history of not trusting the populace. I’m very happy for the Russians to hear this, assuming the background checks aren’t onerous and subject to bribery and corruption.


7 posted on 11/20/2014 7:05:13 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: SeekAndFind

How much do Obama’s sons contribute to the US murder rate?


8 posted on 11/20/2014 7:09:30 AM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: SeekAndFind
It should be kept in mind that the homicide rate among Japanese Americans is even less than the Japanese in Japan. Cultural difference sometimes matter even more than the prevelance of guns.
9 posted on 11/20/2014 7:11:08 AM PST by Stepan12 (Our present appeasement of Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: mrsmel

“... subject to bribery and corruption.”

Which like most everything else in Russia, it will be.


10 posted on 11/20/2014 7:13:59 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: george76
This is surprising. Apparently Putin doesn't understand the other reason for the 2nd Amendment!
11 posted on 11/20/2014 7:15:25 AM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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Where does the article get the murder rate statistic in the headline from? The murder rate in Russia is about double that in the U.S. at 9.2 per 100,000 to the U.S.’s 4.7 per 100,000 (one of my favorite facts in this domain since the rate of private firearms ownership in Russia is about 1/10th that in the U.S.).

I’m disappointed if Breitbart has fallen for someone quoting statistics about the specious category of “gun crime” — doubtless given the relative rates of firearm ownership the proportion of Russian murders committed with firearms is lower than than the proportion of American murders committed with firearms.


12 posted on 11/20/2014 7:28:38 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: george76

Sorry, misread the headline — read “beyond” as ‘below’. Ignore the complaints in my last post... (@_@);;


13 posted on 11/20/2014 7:30:45 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Stepan12

Agreed. Consider, for instance, that according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, only about 7.7% of all homicides in the US occur in rural areas. The base homicide rate translates to something like 1.7 per 100,000, which is roughly the same as Canada and much of Western Europe. Of course, we all know rural US gun ownership rates are very high.

Apparently, high rates of gun ownership aren’t the problem, as much as the libtards want to believe.


14 posted on 11/20/2014 7:33:28 AM PST by VOR78
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To: The_Reader_David

This made me smile. Then I saw your screen name and I smiled harder.
:)


15 posted on 11/20/2014 8:20:16 AM PST by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: umgud
How much do Obama’s sons contribute

I believe it's pretty close to 50/50. 13% of the population commits half, the other 87% commits about half.

16 posted on 11/20/2014 8:49:39 AM PST by j. earl carter
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To: j. earl carter; All

It is likely quite restrictive. Still it is nice to see some movement.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2014/11/russia-changes-law-to-allow-guns-to-be.html


17 posted on 11/20/2014 5:52:55 PM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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