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Rep. Luis Gutierrez Thinks Obama Will Mandate 5-10 Year Residency on Immigration Order
Pajamas Media ^ | 11/19/2014 | Bridget Johnson

Posted on 11/19/2014 8:54:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: skeeter
The government estimate was one million.
41 posted on 11/19/2014 9:56:12 AM PST by kabar
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To: kingu
Here is the real story on what happened in the 1986 amnesty.
42 posted on 11/19/2014 9:58:13 AM PST by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

What are they going to do when the “prove their residency by offering up forged papers? Since the people who rush through applications for residency and citizenship ignore little things like criminal records why should we believe it will be any different when they put this into force?


43 posted on 11/19/2014 10:02:30 AM PST by amnestynone (A big government conservative is just a corporatist who is not paying enough taxes.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Have they overturned Obama's 2012 DACA Dreamer amnesty that has legalized 580,000 so far?

Amnesty is forever. It won't be overturned by the courts.

44 posted on 11/19/2014 10:02:44 AM PST by kabar
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To: amnestynone

And they won’t be checking the records in their home countries.


45 posted on 11/19/2014 10:03:43 AM PST by kabar
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To: tanknetter

Think of it as sitting back and passively allowing the Dems to inflict Cloward-Piven on themselves.


Yes.. there is a good article today here from Greenfield detailing how the RATS have lost the Whites. try to find it


46 posted on 11/19/2014 10:09:42 AM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: skeeter

Not really.

I’m looking at it along the lines of how the Clinton assault weapons ban was allowed to sunset, with no negative impact to the Republicans.

If, again, what Guiterrez says is true, this is time-limited. It doesn’t require Democrats to be truthful, in fact (like the implementation of Obamacare) takes advantage of their lies and allows inertia to run it’s course in exposing those lies for what they are.

Now here’s a possible kicker ... If I were running dirty tricks for a Conservative organization I’d start pointing out to the Hispanic community that this thing is time-limited, and when it does sunset in a few years DHS will convieniently have all sorts of data on the illegal registrants that can be used to find them and arrest them for deportation.


47 posted on 11/19/2014 10:10:23 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

If I were tricking for conservatives I’d do what the Virginia Voters’ Alliance is doing by poring over jury duty exemptions due to non-citizenship, then finding those people having voted, and going after them. $10K fine and a little time for vote fraud.

I’d make it real clear to the illegals that they better not have voted illegally if they’re going to apply for this program.


48 posted on 11/19/2014 10:35:31 AM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: BunnySlippers

And lose your privilege of EVER voting since you cheated and had contempt for our laws.


49 posted on 11/19/2014 10:46:28 AM PST by epluribus_2 (he had the best mm - ever.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

One EO or internal memo to Not Enforce...


50 posted on 11/19/2014 10:47:19 AM PST by epluribus_2 (he had the best mm - ever.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bambi isn’t authorized to create law. The Constitution explicitly authorizes CONGRESS for that function.

Obama’s EO might make him feel important, but it isn’t LAW.

PERIOD. FULL STOP. END OF STORY.


51 posted on 11/19/2014 11:17:17 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind
...and I just want to make clear to the American public...gruber, gruber gruber...
52 posted on 11/19/2014 11:20:08 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: tanknetter
Of course the million dollar question is will the GOP allow it to sunset?
53 posted on 11/19/2014 11:27:19 AM PST by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind

Bet you McCain will love it.


54 posted on 11/19/2014 11:30:45 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind
“I think the president is going to choose between five and 10 years, that is that you have to be in the United States for five to 10 years and you have to be working here and you are going to pay for a background check,”

Right. Because none of these people have EVER falsified documents or paperwork.

55 posted on 11/19/2014 11:38:47 AM PST by Hoffer Rand (Bear His image. Bring His message. Be the Church.)
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To: skeeter

It sunsets by default. Means that Obamas successor gets to renew it by EO, or has to go to Congress to make it permanent.

There’s no way, I think, that a Republican president goes the EO route. Even a Bush or a Christie (God forbid). If there’s a big enough backlash (as I think likely) I don’t see a President Hillary doing it either.

Going the Congressional route will require a 60 vote supermajority in the Senate. With Cruz, Lee, Sessions and now Ernest and the other pro-tea party Class of 2014ers I don’t see that as likely either.

Instead there’ll be the kind of paralytical infighting that has prevented both Obama and before him Bush from getting something through. Which is actually a good thing because the amnesty just expires by default without the ability to blame anyone for actively killing it.


56 posted on 11/19/2014 11:56:29 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: SeekAndFind
Gutierrez said they won’t be able to sign up for welfare, food stamps and other federal benefits.

I'll believe that when flocks of flying pigs blot out the noonday sun.

Non-citizens are also not supposed to vote...yet many thousands (at least) voted because they registered to vote under the motor-voter law.

And, of course, none of these people will (continue to) commit fraud...again, cut to the scene of the flocks of flying pigs if you believe that.

57 posted on 11/19/2014 11:56:46 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: SeekAndFind

Luis Gutierriez is a punk ass la raza commie!!


58 posted on 11/19/2014 11:58:29 AM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: tgusa

Well....this Kenyan prince we have as el presidente is pretty much providing “fortunes” to illegals.


59 posted on 11/19/2014 12:00:22 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: TigerClaws
To think my family had to pay several thousand in legal fees, wait a year, pay DHS fees, wait, and finally get accepted.

Break the law and get rewarded.

Exactly what my wife had to do (which really means that I footed the bill). We literally spent a couple days of our time on line, in freezing weather in Newark, NJ, and did all the rest (including several thousand in legal and INS fees) to do things the right way. Wife wants to sue the government to get the money back...I concur, but know that nothing like that will ever come to pass.

This is, among many other things, a complete slap in the face to every legal immigrant and their family. Yet, many are in favor for tribal reasons (kind of like many blacks reflexively back Obama, despite him destroying their opportunities to prosper).

FYI, my wife is a citizen and doesn't vote for the Jackass Party.

60 posted on 11/19/2014 12:00:37 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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