Obama 2012 Campaign Press Release: Gruber “Helped Write Obamacare”

The Federalist ^ | Nov 18, 2014 | Sean Davis

[EternalVigilance]

Can a republican form of government be turned into a socialist form of government and remain a republican form of government, in the American sense of the word?

Sounds like an oxymoron to me.

[GeronL]

I am sure some DUers will say that GOPers went back in time and planted that press release

[fortheDeclaration]

They are both Socialistic.

[garjog]

He pretends not to know who Grub is.

This is getting repetitive.

[Fantasywriter]

The biggest difference between Obamacare and Romneycare that I’m aware of is the size of the penalties and the severity of lack of compliance. Romneycare penalties are huge. They were not delayed, and there is only about a .0009 chance of receiving a hardship exemption. (I.e.: if you an illegal alien, under Romneycare your exemption is automatic. But if you are a working joe that just cannot afford the sky high Romneycare costs, then you are fined a whopping penalty, and CANNOT get out of owing/paying it.)

It that sense, Romneycare was worse at first. But if Obamacare is not dismantled, it will probably get to the same point eventually.

[savedbygrace]

States can be socialist. Nothing bans such a constitution.

Art IV Sec 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government

[Fresh Wind]

The law itself was a couple of thousand pages. The REGULATIONS that the law spawned were about 28,000 pages. Your picture shows the "red tape tower" as seen here...

[savedbygrace]

Sorry. I should have looked to see if anyone else had replied to HiTech RedNeck before making the same reply you already had done.

[EternalVigilance]

No biggie. We can’t remind people of what the Constitution requires too many times.

[GOPJ]

...Obama tried to pretend that Gruber was someone he hardly even knew, like some long-lost third cousin. What a lying POS. And our “watchdog” media enable him.

Lucky for Obama the press is a bunch of toadies...

[unixfox]

Pelosi didn’t know “what’s in it” and Barry didn’t know who wrote it.

And NOBODY read it!

[Scoutmaster]

That works. I just stick with Grubercrats.

[bajabaja]

Thanks for the amazon link to the comic book. The reviews are fun to read, even the 5 star rated ones (which are often sarcastic).

[Dqban22]

Stupidity Reconsidered: Election Proved Americans Aren't Fooled by Gruber and Obama

Dr. Ben Carson | Nov 19, 2014

http://townhall.com/columnists/drbencarson/2014/11/19/stupidity-reconsidered-election-proved-americans-arent-fooled-by-gruber-and-obama-n1920600

”What is truly disturbing is the fact that our government is willing to engage in the purposeful deception of the populace in order to thrust its secretive agenda onto an unsuspecting populace and a sycophantic mainstream media. As I have said many times before, Obamacare was never about health care; it was about government control and wealth redistribution.” (Ben Carson)

Not a single Republican senator or Congressman voted in favor of that monstrosity called Obamacare. It must be make perfectly clear that democrat Phd com man Gruber, called stupid not all the American voters, but just the democrat voters that put the “Liar in Chief” in the White House, in spite of his Marxist anti-American back ground, and all the Democrats legislators co-conspirators with the president and the MSM in the greatest deception against the American people in the history of the United States.

Obamacare Architect/ Non-Staff Member Visited The White House Quite A Bit

Matt Vespa | Nov 19, 2014

“Mr. Gruber went to the White House at least six times in 2009, according to a review of visitor logs. He met with the president on July 20, 2009, and was joined by other economists. Some of the other meetings were held with Jeanne Lambrew, deputy assistant to the president for health policy, and Peter Orszag, former director of the Office of Management and Budget.

Mr. Gruber visited the White House at least twice in 2010 and met with Jason Furman, who is now chairman of the president’s Council of Economic Advisers. Mr. Gruber meet with Ms. Lambrew at least twice this year and was at the White House as recently as June, the records show. For five of the meetings, visitor records don’t show when Mr. Gruber arrived or departed, making it unclear whether the appointments were kept.

Mr. Gruber wrote a 2011 cartoon book called “Health Care Reform” that aimed to explain the federal law. A note about the author says Mr. Gruber “consulted extensively with the Obama administration and Congress during the development” of the law.”

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2014/11/19/obamacare-architect-nonstaff-member-visited-the-white-house-quite-a-bit-n1920697

According to Obama, the MTI professor, a frequent visitor to the White House, was just a ”random” adviser. For his “invaluable advise and services” to the Obama administration professor Gruber received over 5.9 million dollars... Stupidity and corruption to the nth power.