Ice Visible on Lake Superior Weeks Ahead of Schedule

ABC News ^ | Nov 15, 2014 | Dan Peck

[Ray76]

The first sightings of ice on Lake Superior and the Great Lakes overall usually occur during the beginning to middle of December. However, a perfect combination of last season's record ice coverage, cooler summer temperatures, and an early blast of arctic air this fall has allowed for areas of ice to form earlier than normal for the second year in a row.

[cripplecreek]

Lots of greens like Broccoli, cabbage, asparagus. Plenty of root crops are good too. Michigan is still a top potato producing state.

Michiganders are primarily descendants of northern Europeans and used to grow a lot of the same crops they grew there.

[5th MEB]

All that ice is caused by man made Co2 and global warming don’t ya know.
Call Manbearpig immediately for assistance.

[justa-hairyape]

Snowing in Central West Texas right now. Way too early for this area. We usually get a few snow events in Jan/Feb this far south.

[palmer]

Its the cold summers that become a real problem.

Yes, the trough pattern continued more or less through this past summer. But when that pattern breaks, you will get your mild winter with a decent summer again. It's hard to tell when that is going to happen. Lots of factors involved, solar activity, PDO, etc.

[palmer]

Snowing in Central West Texas right now. Way too early for this area.

True, but on the bright side this pattern should help restore your water tables and reservoirs.

[Justa]

"when that pattern breaks, you will get your mild winter with a decent summer again. It's hard to tell when that is going to happen. Lots of factors involved, solar activity, PDO, etc."

Here's the solar activity factor w/ prediction:

Enjoy the warmth ...while you can.

[spokeshave]

Yeah...and resulting drop in grain production....looking at a big population decline....

[DuncanWaring]

Looks like basically either stuff that grows fast or doesn’t have to “ripen” to be edible...

[DuncanWaring]

What’s the vertical axis there?

Solar irradiance?

[cripplecreek]

Things that grow fast or can tolerate considerable cold. I went out and picked some half frozen broccoli today. Parsnips are harvested in the early spring.

[spokeshave]

The full story is hear:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/09/08/the-climate-grain-production-relationship-quantified/

[Sawdring]

Did someone say nutty Canadians?

[DuncanWaring]

I dug up the last of my carrots this morning (before the snow got any deeper).

[palmer]

Yeah, we were lucky to get that second peak a year ago. Plus there at least a couple years lag from the solar to the atmosphere via the oceans. The cold should begin in earnest by 2020 IMO.

[palmer]

Yeah, we were lucky to get that second peak a year ago. Plus there at least a couple years lag from the solar to the atmosphere via the oceans. The cold should begin in earnest by 2020 IMO.

[DuncanWaring]

Thanks.

[ExCTCitizen]

It must be a mistake since the planet is warming..didn’t you see the Palm Trees in Green Bay today?

[PGalt]

Interesting/educational post and thread. Thanks to all posters.

[Grampa Dave]

[Kickass Conservative]

>>Obama will fix this with Executive Orders as soon as he dodges the Gruber Scandal ,if he still has some Teflon left<<

Teflon? Obama is the first Flubber President. Things don’t just roll off him, they bounce off and accelerate in the opposite direction.