Posted on 11/13/2014 6:57:38 AM PST by Fennie
Russia has deployed 200 tanks, 1,600 vehicles, 640 artillery units, 191 aircraft and 121 combat helicopters on the border with Ukraine.
Ukraine's envoy to the UN Yuriy Serheyev said this at an urgent meeting of the UN Security Council, ukr. media reported.
(Excerpt) Read more at ukrinform.ua ...
more than a division, that’s for sure
It was a stupid move on the part of the EU and US.
We have a much bigger problem with the Islamics, and if we hope to win we'll need Russia's help, not the malcotents (Ukraine, Georgia, Poland etc.).
Russia is the bad guy here. They are the ones invading countries, killing people and committing atrocities.
You talk about positioning troops in friendly country as if that is the same thing.
You would blame prison guards for shankings too I guess
“Lot of artillery.”
LOTS of chatter in the last month about Kiev moving to attack Donetsk again. The constant artillery prep and build-up all around it has been a dead giveaway.
They were supposed to withdraw from the airport as part of the ceasefire, but they didn’t, likely because of the HUGE Nuclear War bunker network beneath it is such a huge tactical advantage.
This is likely Putin’s way of saying, “uhhh.... don’t even think about it.”.
I would be more concerned about the 4 Russian Jaguars that are reported to have crossed the border in the last week or so.
Super-accurate and immediate counter-battery fire would give the rebels a HUGE advantage in an artillery war, which this is.
Nato was formed as a counter to Soviet expansion in the first place. Paranoid Russia would be resentful of Western intentions, real or imagined, no matter where Nato is positioned. Speaking of provocations, Russia is flying bombers in the Gulf of Mexico today.
Russia would annex the whole world as a “buffer”, if it could.
“How are Hungary, Poland and other neighboring countries feeling about their ethnics being forced into war for Kiev?”
The Hungarians in particular, were quite vocal about it during the summer. There were several instances of anti-war unrest in far Western Ukraine, resulting in Kiev sending 1,500 more police to Carpathian Ruthenia.
You can't be serious.
Russia with 130 million souls, an economy the size of Italy, and a huge border to guard, it's the last thing it wants.
However, the EU, China and the 'free world' are eager to reduce Russia again in size and strength to get at it's vast resources.
Putin is no fool. He's drawn a red line that we forced on him. He is actually weak and venerable and cornered. That's dangerous for every one. We need a friend like Russia, not malcontents to defend and financially support.
how's that?
~Russian puppet governments have been looting Ukraine since the Soviet Union fell, they finally threw off that yoke and got invaded within weeks of getting real independence. Then Putin apologists come in and say the Ukrainians haven’t run their country properly. Which is hilarious, really.~
Well played, sir.
Which of ‘Russian puppet governments’ do you mean?
Maybe a first President’s Kuchma, who has sent Ukrainian troops to support US operations in Iraq, complained about Russian Navy in Crimea, and earlier than that bulldozed every worthy Russian strategies air asset stuck at Ukrainian bases at the end of USSR?
Or maybe Orangists who ousted him, galvanized the east of Ukraine promising to ban their language and threatened Russian gas transit to Europe to shake down discounts and sell for personal profit of certain leaders?
Or maybe Yanukovich who was elected after said Orangists got the populace fed up with their divide and conquer incompetent tactics and awful corruption? BTW, Yanukovich wasn’t even a President of Ukraine for as long as Obama a POTUS and to call him pro-Russian is ridiculous because his politics were about to play both EU and Russia for benefits.
quote- Yanukovich wasn’t even a President of Ukraine for as long .................
Yeh but he was theere long enough to decimate and loot the country, so it can’t fight back against putilini.......
A long range deal started years ago by russia to dismantle Ukraine and get her back into soviet subjugation.........
{’’It was in 2005, when the Kremlin’s siloviki revitalized their support for pro-Russian separatists in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. That year, the organization “Donetsk Republic” – a Russian proxy in the ongoing war in Eastern Ukraine – was created. Its leaders went to Russia in 2006 to participate in the summer camp of the Eurasian Youth Union that was established in 2005 with the money from the Presidential Administration of Russia on the initiative of Aleksandr Dugin, major ideologue of the Russia-led Eurasian Empire, and Vladislav Surkov, then deputy head of the Presidential Administration. This summer camp was aimed at further indoctrination of the activists and training for fighting against democratic movements in the neighbouring states. Instructors from security services taught methods of espionage, sabotage and guerrilla tactics. Among the participants of the summer camp was Andrey Purgin, who is now “First Prime Minister” of the “Donetsk People’s Republic”.}
Put your stinking Russian pants off. If mongoloids move into central Ukraine, WW3 breaks out will millions participating and all the major powers getting involved at some point, If they like it or not.
“It was a stupid move on the part of the EU and US.”
Oh my, so what was that stupid move exactly ?
Ahhh ... the Ukrainian people! But that wouldn't occur to you would it Russkie?
Stupid move #2 is treating Russia as an enemy instead of a nation that's been positively changing for the past 20 years in our now Obama discarded conservative direction. When in fact they should be our natural allies if we ever get serious in containing the Islamists' movement.
Thanks for the latest intelligence report from Moskal-terrorist groups, Putinista. Uncle Vlad will reward you with honorary bottle of Vodka that Stalin once slurped.
NATO in fact has gotten smaller, not bigger. This is the stupid stuff the Russkies put out because they like to blame the victim for why they have to rape them repeatedly.
Blow it out of the orifice of your choice, propagandist.
Russia is a dung hill and a kleptocracy where the vast majority of the population has to survive on government subsidies because everything is owned by criminal gangs (the Kremlin being the biggest one) and they're happy to live in slavery anyway. Meanwhile their leaders complain about Western decadence and materialism even while the Russian Orthodox Patriarch, a "former" agent of the KGB, wears 5000 dollar watches and the KGB Kleptocrats are notorious for their theft and murder, and in selling young Russian conscripts into prostitution and slavery on the streets of Msocow. I don't know what country you are watching that has been improving any for 20 years.
Let me know when the Moskals bury Lenin finally and condemn the crimes of Communism and their "honorable veterans," known Sadist Gulag guards, rather than giving them medals.
Quite a few could argue that If NATO wasn't expanding to the border of Russia, Russia would be expanding to the borders of NATO (actually it does now). Additionally, NATO was turned into political club, no NATO bases in new member states, NATO-Russia committee and other PC bullshits to actually appease Russia. This mess is happening because NATO is too weak, not because it is too strong.
“treating Russia as an enemy”
“a nation that's been positively changing for the past 20 years”
Facts please ?
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