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Obamacare architect blasted for ‘deliberate deception’
Boston Herald ^ | 11/11/2014 | Richard Weir

Posted on 11/11/2014 11:49:29 AM PST by jonatron

“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO (Congressional Budget Office) did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. … So it’s written to do that,” Gruber said, suggesting “it would not have passed” if the law “made it explicit” that healthy people would “pay in” and the sick would get money.

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” Gruber continued. “Call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to get the thing to pass. I wish ... we could make it all transparent. But I’d rather have this law than not.”

Gruber, when reached by phone yesterday, said repeatedly, “I have no comment.”

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; US: California
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1 posted on 11/11/2014 11:49:29 AM PST by jonatron
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2 posted on 11/11/2014 11:52:11 AM PST by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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This Gruber guy is so very, very smart.


3 posted on 11/11/2014 11:54:35 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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Some people thought 1984 was fiction, this guy thought it was an instruction manual.


4 posted on 11/11/2014 11:54:53 AM PST by thorvaldr
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5 posted on 11/11/2014 12:01:52 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill)
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So Congress doesn’t see its a tax and therefore not subject to the rules for legal passage of a tax. Then the Supreme Court says it is a tax and therefore legal.It could be repealed, but it won’t, because our legislative scoundrels agree with the Executive scoundrels and judicial scoundrels. America is governed by 3 corrupt branches full of scoundrels.Democracy has been overruled.


6 posted on 11/11/2014 12:13:36 PM PST by Missouri gal
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If you study the whole history of Marxism, Socialism, and Obama, his campaign and performance, it’s all based on lies and deception.


7 posted on 11/11/2014 12:19:42 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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I have contacted the MIT economics department head, professor whitney newey, asking him if he supports MIT professor gruber’s statements in the video to the effect that the US voting public is too stupid to be trusted to vote for what MIT professor gruber has determined is best for them.

Whitney Newey
Contact Information
Phone: (617) 253-6420
Fax: (617) 253-1330
Email: wnewey@mit.edu
Address:
MIT Department of Economics
77 Massachusetts Avenue E19-760
Cambridge MA 02139

Headquarters Support Staff:
Kara Nemergut
Phone: (617) 253-3807
Email: nemergut@mit.edu

Academic Support Staff:
Emily Gallagher
Phone: (617) 253-8884
Email: emily@mit.edu


8 posted on 11/11/2014 12:19:48 PM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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Here’s the hero:

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-11-11/meet-the-mildmannered-investment-advisor-whos-humiliating-the-administration-over-obamacare

“Weinstein, back at home, was stunned at the reaction. Why did he keep finding Gruber gaffes? Why didn’t the press glom onto this stuff first?

Meet the Mild-Mannered Investment Advisor Who’s Humiliating the Administration Over Obamacare “


9 posted on 11/11/2014 12:23:23 PM PST by GOPJ ( MSNBC is left-wing radio with pictures. CNN's anchors are mostly tired, left-wing & smug.. -Nolte)
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Gruber, when reached by phone yesterday, said repeatedly, “I have no comment.”

He needs some time to figure out some more lies and deceptions to fool us stupid American citizens again.
10 posted on 11/11/2014 12:23:42 PM PST by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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Glad this went viral.. There’s no way SCOTUS isn’t aware of this now.


11 posted on 11/11/2014 12:24:46 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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lies, deception...and incrementalism.

So what if 75% of Obamacare eventually gets rolled back. There will still be 25% there and that’s a step “FORWARD”, in their view.


12 posted on 11/11/2014 12:25:33 PM PST by randita ("Is a nation without borders a nation?"...Noonan)
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To: ari-freedom; The_Media_never_lie; thorvaldr; MeshugeMikey; Missouri gal; PapaNew; SteveH; Liz; ...

Here’s the hero:

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-11-11/meet-the-mildmannered-investment-advisor-whos-humiliating-the-administration-over-obamacare

“Weinstein, back at home, was stunned at the reaction. Why did he keep finding Gruber gaffes? Why didn’t the press glom onto this stuff first?

Meet the Mild-Mannered Investment Advisor Who’s Humiliating the Administration Over Obamacare “


13 posted on 11/11/2014 12:26:15 PM PST by GOPJ ( MSNBC is left-wing radio with pictures. CNN's anchors are mostly tired, left-wing & smug.. -Nolte)
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This story is NOWHERE on MSNBC.com, CBSNEWS.com, or ABCNEWS.com. I just checked. Total blackout.

Progressives are the most dishonest, lying hacks I’ve ever seen.


14 posted on 11/11/2014 12:26:52 PM PST by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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There is nothing about leftism that can be advanced for what it truly is.

It’s why they never discuss the real consequences of their policies, they know they will be exposed.


15 posted on 11/11/2014 12:28:51 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Hey Boston Herald, what about the douchebag the POS legislation is named after?


16 posted on 11/11/2014 12:29:01 PM PST by Common Sense 101
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In days gone by, enraged citizens would have dragged this Gruber turd out of his office or home, stripped him, dunked him in hot tar and covered him with feathers.

That was in the "olden days."

17 posted on 11/11/2014 12:31:11 PM PST by FroggyTheGremlim ("Your apathy is their power." - Sarah Palin Jul 19, 2014)
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Rich Weinstein rocks

“It’s terrifying that the guy in his mom’s basement is finding his stuff, and nobody else is,” he says. “I really do find this disturbing.”

Oh. My. G*d.


18 posted on 11/11/2014 12:32:42 PM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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I posted this on FR in hopes that the story will garner more attention.


19 posted on 11/11/2014 12:42:00 PM PST by jonatron (This is the Land of the Free, the Home of the Brave.)
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if 75% of Obamacare eventually gets rolled back. There will still be 25% there and that’s a step “FORWARD”, in their view.

Yes, Obama and the Left don't stop campaigning. What about the Right? The Right doesn't campaign. Therefore freedom doesn't have a voice.

A big part of the problem is Obama is correct when he says the Right offers no clear alternative to Obamacare. Has the Right forgotten about freedom and the free market economy which is freedom in action? Does the Right still believe in freedom and the freed market which made America the wealthiest and most powerful nation on earth? I'm not sure.

The Right must be explicit, loudly and often, in offering and explaining the obvious, traditional American alternative to oppressive, coercive big government socialism: the voluntary cooperation of the FREE MARKET ECONOMY, the only source and creation of wealth for a society.

20 posted on 11/11/2014 12:49:44 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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