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Travel Ban, Visa Ban—Either Way, It Won’t Work. The only way to stop Ebola is at the source.
Politico ^ | 10/25/2014 | Tara C. Smith

Posted on 10/25/2014 5:12:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The biggest two words right now at the intersection of government and public health might be “travel ban.” But despite many politicians framing such a ban as a “common sense measure” to protect us from Ebola, a closer look at both the logistics and the history of such bans show that they are anything but.

First, what are these “travel bans” all about? They’re a moving target, and they’ve morphed a bit just in the last few days. Initially they were a call to ban flights from the affected countries—Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea—into the United States, in order to reduce the possibility that another person silently incubating the Ebola virus would show up in our cities. This is how Ebola entered Texas, via Thomas Eric Duncan, who had been exposed to the virus in Liberia before entering the United States to visit family. Visa restrictions have also been discussed. Would these bans make us safer?

Let’s take each potential model in turn:

1) Stopping flights to the affected countries Shutting down flights from these countries sounds straightforward. Unfortunately, what many proponents of such a flight ban didn’t realize was that there actually aren’t any direct flights from any of those countries into the United States. Nate Silver searched and identified direct flights from Senegal, Ghana and Nigeria, but none from Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea.

Most flights from the affected countries instead route through Europe or the Middle East, but even for those, Silver found, “In total, this represents just 18 weekly flights from Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone combined, nine of which are currently suspended or are not yet operating.”

Duncan was routed through Europe, flying out of Monrovia, the Liberian capital, to Brussels, Belgium, then on to Washington-Dulles Airport and finally to Dallas-Fort Worth.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ebola; ebolaairline; travelban
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1 posted on 10/25/2014 5:12:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

We are being governed by the truly, bat guano insane.


2 posted on 10/25/2014 5:15:08 PM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So the whole concept of “quarantine” is what... obsolete?


3 posted on 10/25/2014 5:15:11 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s worked from the beginning of time, just not now. Right....


4 posted on 10/25/2014 5:15:53 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
It’s worked from the beginning of time, just not now. Right....

They didn't need to import millions of low-information voters back then in order to offset the votes of First World America.

5 posted on 10/25/2014 5:18:08 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess they never heard of the concept of “checking passports.”


6 posted on 10/25/2014 5:19:11 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: SeekAndFind

Why the **** can’t we do both: handle it there AND block travel from there? Why can’t we do five, ten, fifteen, a hundred things that don’t contradict each other? That’s how a free society gets things done: not with the Tsar trying to run everything, but with a multitude of counselors, where there is wisdom.


7 posted on 10/25/2014 5:28:22 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: SeekAndFind

The author seems to be pretending alternative responses are somehow mutually exclusive. Why? Common sense says to implement every option simultaneously: visa ban; ban on all travelers originating in West Africa and/or on passports from Ebola countries; 3 week quarantine at their expense for anyone who slips past these measures; lean on all airlines that have flights to the Ebola countries to stop them immediately; assist Ebola countries to control the virus at the source. Less trouble and less deadly than playing whack-a-mole with the thousands each idiot potentially infects when they travel.


8 posted on 10/25/2014 5:31:49 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: SeekAndFind

“...........The only way to stop Ebola is at the source.”

Right, and confine it to the source with a travel ban.


9 posted on 10/25/2014 5:36:24 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: SeekAndFind

The American goal is not stopping Ebola. The American goal is to exclude Ebola. Profiles are written to discriminate against people coming from Africa

The few that slip through can die and remove the threat


10 posted on 10/25/2014 5:37:25 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: chajin

That’s my question also. Why can’t we ban travel AND stop it at it’s source. I have yet to hear one person ask these experts that question.


11 posted on 10/25/2014 5:37:31 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: SeekAndFind

Too late, the cat is already out of the bag.


12 posted on 10/25/2014 5:38:09 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: Steely Tom
So the whole concept of “quarantine” is what... obsolete?

The concept of "quarantine" refers to isolating people who are actually sick, not trying to stop travel from a country where a few people are sick.

I think that at Ellis Island, people used to be screened for illness and turned away if they were sick. That is the principle behind airport scanning--people who are actively sick cannot board a flight.

13 posted on 10/25/2014 5:39:47 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: SeekAndFind

Outrageous! Ban flights now!


14 posted on 10/25/2014 5:40:08 PM PDT by Reagan0704
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To: SeekAndFind

Horsehockey


15 posted on 10/25/2014 5:44:02 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: EternalVigilance
I guess they never heard of the concept of “checking passports.”

There have been, what, seven confirmed Ebola cases in the U.S.? Of those five have been people who traveled to the U.S. with Ebola, and of those four have not had passports from Liberia, Sierra Leone, or Guinea. You can ban people with passports from those countries but they aren't the only carriers.

16 posted on 10/25/2014 5:46:40 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Reagan0704
Ban flights now!

From where?

17 posted on 10/25/2014 5:47:47 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: exDemMom

American Historical Quarantine Rules:

Quarantines

“Rules for Railroad Quarantine,” Bulletin of the North Carolina Board of Health 4:4 (1889), pp. 61–62 and 62–64.

Rules for railroad quarantine

[From Proceedings of Montgomery Quarantine Conference]

The rules for the government of railroad quarantine, as drawn up by the special committee appointed for that purpose, are here subjoined.

The committee was composed of Col. J. C. Clark, and Drs. J. B. Baird, J. T. Porter, R. S. Starkweather, Wm. Bailey, H. B. Horlbeck, J. E. Black, R. Rutherford, R. F. Gray, O. R. Early and C. M. Smith.

Rules Prepared By the Committee
1.Quarantine should not be made against any place until it is officially known that yellow fever or other infections or contagious disease exists in such place.
2.Only competent physicians should be put in charge of quarantine stations; and only thoroughly qualified persons should be employed as inspectors on railway trains.
3.Quarantine stations, located on railroads, should be established at convenient points, on one or both sides of a town or station, as may be deemed necessary.
4.If an epidemic of yellow fever, or other infectious or contagious disease, exist at a town or station, trains carrying passengers or freights should be required to pass through the limits of such towns or stations at a speed of not less than ten (10) miles per hour, without stopping at such towns or stations but should stop at the quarantine stations.
5.Passengers to or from such infected point should only be received or delivered at the quarantine station, under the supervision of the quarantine officer in charge of the station.
6.Railway tickets may be sold to persons leaving an infected place to any point willing to receive them.
7.All baggage from any infected point should be properly disinfected.
8.As far as practicable, the same rules proposed for railroad stations should be applied to vessels of every kind, stage coaches, or other means of travel.
9.The passage of railroad trains through any point on the line of road, whether infected or not, should not be prohibited by any quarantine regulations. The conductors of passenger trains should close the windows and ventilators and lock the doors of cars passing through any place where a train is not permitted to stop.
10.All freight to any infected place should be delivered either at the quarantine stations or the nearest railway station to such infected point, where it can be properly cared for.
11.All mail matter from any infected place should be properly disinfected by the United States Government. And mail matter intended for infected points should be put off the trains at the quarantine stations. The United States Government should instruct postmasters to receive and deliver mails at such quarantine stations.
12.Railroads and express companies may receive for transportation from any inspected place during the time such infection exists, any merchandise or other traffic consigned to places willing to receive it.
13.State authorities should employ competent persons on passenger trains as inspectors of passengers, baggage and express matter as additional precaution; but the fact of inspectors being on such trains should not relieve trains carrying passengers, or express matter or baggage, from stopping at quarantine stations for such inspection as the officer in charge may determine to be necessary.
14.It is recommended that all quarantines, as far as practicable, should be uniform in their requirements and operations, which will greatly contribute to the prevention of panics, and tend to allay unnecessary excitement and fear on the part of the people.
15.The form of health certificate adopted by the quarantine convention held at Montgomery, March 5, 1889, should be prepared for health officers to issue to such persons as may be found entitled to receive the same. A copy of this certificate should be printed with these rules, and conspicuously posted at railway stations.
16.It is the desire and intention of health authorities, as far as practicable, to throw every safeguard around the public health of all localities. Municipal, county, and State authorities are expected to co-operate in every possible way with health officers located in towns, villages and cities, and in charge of quarantine stations, to enable them to prevent the introduction or spread of yellow fever or other infectious or contagious diseases.

Isolation

Preamble.— The first and most important step to take against the invasion of contagious diseases is isolation. It is the most certain and direct way of preventing them from spreading through the population, therefore the isolation of those who are sick with small-pox, cholera, diphtheria, typhoid, and scarlet fevers is to-day universally recognized as of absolute necessity and a most blinding obligation whenever any of the above contagious diseases break out in a family.
1.In densely populated cities, and in smaller towns and villages where circumstances render it necessary (such as in places where there are factories or residences built in rows, &c), and, more particularly in case of an outbreak of cholera or small-pox, the sick should be removed to a special building, either permanent or temporary, erected for the purpose, and the houses from which the sick are taken should be disinfected and cleaned under the direction of the local board immediately after the removal of the patients.
2.When no special building has been set apart or erected for the purpose, the sick should be isolated at home, and should be put in a room on the topmost flat of the house, and, if possible, in a room at the end of a passage. If necessary, the house itself should be quarantined.
3.All carpets, curtains, articles of dress, pictures, and all things not absolutely needed by the patient, must be removed from the room.
4.There should be plenty of sunlight and good ventilation, without, however, exposing the patient to draughts of air.
5.The patient’s bed should be placed in the centre of the room, and the door kept closed as much as possible.
6.All discharges from the throat, mouth or nose of the patient should be received on rags, and these should be immediately burnt, or in a vessel containing a disinfecting solution.
7.The discharges from the bowels, as well as the urine of the patient, should be received into a vessel containing a disinfecting solution, and should then be thrown into the water-closet. Should there be no water-closet, they should be buried in the ground at a distance of one hundred feet at least from any well of other source of water supply, and at a depth of not less than two feet.
8.Clothing, bed-linen, towels, &c, which have been used by the patient, should, immediately on removal, be dropped into a bucket or tub containing a disinfecting solution, and should remain soaking in that fluid for at least two hours before being taken out of the room. They should then be boiled in water and washed in the ordinary way.
9.No one must enter the sick-room except those absolutely necessary to the care of the patient, and such persons should wear linen or cotton, rather than woolen clothing so that it can be more easily washed in boiling water, to free it from contagion, immediately after the nursing is done with the patient.
10.No article of food or drink which has been in the sick-room should be used by any other person. The dishes, &c., which have been used by the patient should be thoroughly cleaned with boiling water before being used by the other members of the household.
11.After complete recovery, the patient should be given at least one bath in hot water, using carbolic soap, and should have a complete change of clothing before leaving the sick-room and mixing with healthy persons.
12.When a patient is isolated, no member of the household should be allowed to attend school, college or convent, or to take part in any public assembly, or to attend the services of the church.
13.The measures of isolation and quarantine should be strictly put in force during the whole course of the disease, and until, recovery or death having occurred, the sick-room, with the whole house, has been properly disinfected and cleaned under the superintendence of the health officer or family physician.
14.During the prevalence of a contagious disease in locality, it is most important to see that the drains, ditches, privy-pits and yards around the house should be kept clean and in good order. It is then especially that all refuse, garbage and decomposing organic matters, &c., should be removed, burned or buried, also chloride of lime, in powder or solution, sprinkled over unwholesome places to disinfect them.
15.Under no pretext whatever may other person be admitted into the sick-room than the nurse, the physician or the clergyman.
16.In a house where a contagious disease, such as diphtheria, scarlet or typhoid fever, measles or whooping-cough is known to exist, no children from other houses should be admitted under any pretext whatever; neither should adults be allowed to enter, except under certain restrictions, as infection is frequently carried from one to house to another by visitors.
17.Whenever there is small-pox, cholera, or even diphtheria, when the patient cannot be properly isolated, not only the patient must be kept in his room, but the whole house must be quarantined.
18.When a house is quarantined, nobody from the inside should be allowed to have any communication with those outside, and nobody from outside should go into the house under any pretext, always excepting the physician and clergyman.
19.Immediately after the death of an infected person, the body should be enveloped in a sheet thoroughly saturated with a disinfecting solution and be immediately buried without a public funeral and without being taken into any church.
20.In order to prevent premature burial, it is desirable, whenever possible, to have the actual death determined and certified by a properly qualified physician, and to have the body buried only on the presentation of such medical certificate of death—Taken from the pamphlet issued by the Provincial Board of Health of Canada.
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As you read

The North Carolina State Board of Health

This article, published by the North Carolina State Board of Health, instructed public officials about how to properly quarantine sick people to stop the spread of diseases.

In the late nineteenth century, Americans became increasingly concerned with public health — with limiting the spread of disease and with educating people on how to live healthier lives. The North Carolina State Board of Health was established in 1877, but received little funding at first and was not very effective. By the 1890s, concern about public health had grown, and the State Board of Health received more funding and took on a broader mission. (You can read more about the history of the State Board of Health from the State Archives’ website.

Understanding disease

One important role of the State Board of Health was to minimize the spread of contagious diseases. By the 1890s, scientists were coming to understand that germs caused disease, and they were learning how those germs spread. Doctors still did not have means to prevent or cure most of these diseases — antibiotics were still decades away, and few vaccines existed. But armed with their knowledge about germs, they developed new measures to prevent the spread of disease, especially quarantines, in which infected persons were isolated.

Quarantines had long been used even without real understanding of why they worked, but new technology made quarantines more important — and more difficult — than ever. Railroads and advances in steamboats allowed goods and people, and therefore disease, to travel farther and faster than ever before. The rules set by the State Board of Health drew on the new scientific understanding of disease and addressed the challenges posed by railroad travel.

Questions to consider
1. Who could determine who was to be put in quarantine?
2. What precautions were taken to make sure railroad passengers did not spread disease?
3. When a train passed through a town where there was an outbreak of a contagious disease, what precautions were taken?
4. What happened to the luggage and mail on trains that were quarantined?
5. What was the responsibility of local government officials in helping the State Board of Health enforce quarantines?
6. When a person was sick in a town or village, what precautions were taken?
7. What type of room was recommended for sick people? How was the room prepared?
8. In what situations were entire households quarantined?
9. How were quarantines enforced?
10. What happened when a person was taken out of quarantine?
11. If a person died from a contagious disease, how and where were they buried?

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Diseases: A brief guide to causes, symptoms, history, and treatment Since the beginning of human existence on the planet, diseases have played a significant role in the events of every era. This brief listing of some of the most notorious diseases explains their causes, symptoms, history, prevention, and treatment, and provides links to further information.
Smallpox Smallpox is a serious, contagious, and sometimes fatal infectious disease caused by the variola virus. Historically, smallpox had a mortality rate of as much as 30 percent. In the Americas, it killed as much as 90 percent of the indigenous population after contact with Europeans introduced the disease. Smallpox is now eradicated after a successful worldwide vaccination program.

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18 posted on 10/25/2014 5:47:50 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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Among many poor arguments made by pro-Ebola activists, the "best" one they seem to have is that we cannot create a perfect quarantine of West Africa, so we should not bother to create a good one.

The author is an epidemiologist, so she knows better. She writes that an 80% ban will not stop all cases -- but doesn't say how many American lives might be saved. Just one is a lot, especially when it's your's, or your wife's, or one of your kids'.

19 posted on 10/25/2014 5:49:10 PM PDT by FredZarguna (His first name is 'Unarmed,' and his given middle name is 'Teenager.')
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To: SeekAndFind

I will play. They want to play the perfection game ... in other words since there is no way to perfectly keep ebola victims from coming here we should not even stop most of them from coming here.

Back at them. Stop it at the source? It won’t work. There is no way for the US to stop all ebola at the source even if we invaded the countries and controlled the population. Thus since we cant guarantee we can stop it at the source we should not try at all. That is their absurd logic.

Not to mention that we can try to do BOTH. Not with the military. But we can provide assistance to help those countries deal with ebola AND we can restrict travel from those countries. These two strategies are completely orthogonal. However the travel restriction is really the only one we can really impact much


20 posted on 10/25/2014 5:52:20 PM PDT by plain talk
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