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Michael Savage Spouts Savage Nonsense
dailycaller.com ^ | 10-22-2014 | JAMIE WEINSTEIN

Posted on 10/23/2014 3:36:35 AM PDT by servo1969

The areas to which President Barack Obama is open to legitimate and scathing criticism are almost endless, but the host of the 4th most-listened to radio show in the country bypasses the obvious for the unbelievable.

“What worries me, Jamie, in regards to what you just said, is that one of President Obama’s mentors was Abraham Lincoln,” Savage told The Daily Caller earlier this month in an interview about his new book, calmly named, “Stop The Coming Civil War.”

“He imprisoned 20,000 political opponents, including journalists, who opposed the Civil War. People don’t know that about Lincoln. And 20,000 people in the 1860s would be what today? Two million or more? And if he is one Obama’s mentors is it hard to comprehend that the same might happen here under Obama?”

It is, in fact, pretty hard to comprehend, even if there are real and serious criticisms of the way the Obama administration had dealt with the press. But this is Savage’s MO. He is quick to paint Obama not just as a failed president who has too often subverted Congress and abused his power in order to implement his agenda, but as an out-and-out tyrant in the mold of Joseph Stalin.

“Just as Stalin purged his generals, albeit in a more bloody manner, Obama has been purging the military,” Savage said, comparing Obama to one of history most evil monsters, while suggesting – falsely – that he has forced 8,000 officers from the military for political reasons.

Given his alarmist view of Obama, it is not so surprising that Savage believes the president might try to instigate some type of insurrection in order to grab even more power.

“My worst fear is that they are going to provoke an insurrection in this country as a pretext to aggrandize more power and possibly start taking more liberties with the Second Amendment,” he said

But have no fear. Savage’s book presents a solution to the Obama problem: vote Republican in November.

“I focus in ‘Stop The Coming Civil War’ on these attacks on our schools, on our borders, our language, our culture, our military,” he said. “And I focus on it for one reason: We have 30 days to save America. Why do I say that? It is as simple as this: We have to throw every Democrat out and we have to put in the opposition party.”

If you’re scratching your head at this solution given the problem he diagnosed, you’re not alone. If Obama is Stalin-lite, why would he care if the Republicans controlled the Senate?

“Well, you make a very valid point,” Savage said. “But let’s see what happens if the so-called Republicans win and they pass laws that he and his merry band of pranksters don’t like, let’s see what happens then.”

When pressed to follow his wild theories to their logical conclusion, Savage backs off a bit, seemingly unwilling to go too far into Alex Jones-land, at least when not actually speaking to Alex Jones.

“Well, I wouldn’t go that far because we don’t know what he is going to do in two years. I know what he is doing right now,” Savage says when asked whether he believes the president is angling to hold onto power indefinitely, as Stalin-esque leaders tend to do.

“I don’t know. I can’t even think that far ahead,” he said, when pressed on the same question later in the interview. “I don’t know what he can or cannot do. I do know that anything is possible because if someone would have said that he wouldn’t limit flights from an Ebola area and he wouldn’t get away with it, I‘d say your crazy.”

A 2009 profile in the New Yorker paints Savage, who was born Michael Weiner, as a man with a deeply pessimistic outlook. So it is possible he believes the over-the-top theories he spouts.

And it is not like Savage gets everything wrong. As Obama approaches year seven of his presidency, polling suggests most Americans agree with Savage that the Obama experience has been something less than an outstanding success. Beyond all its evident failures, it’s even possible that a smoking gun will emerge that will tie the administration more closely — even criminally — to something like the IRS’s targeting of tea party groups.

But like deranged liberals during the George W. Bush years, Savage isn’t content to paint Obama merely as a failure with a discredited worldview whose policies have made America weaker. He must be something more nefarious, more apocalyptic. In Savage’s telling, Obama is working with his elite friends to create a “New World Order,” one “without any borders, without any single language, without a single cultural identity.”

“This is part of the New World Order in the sense of the new Soviet world. It’s sort of emerging like a new Soviet world ruled by a power elite,” he says.

If so, the emerging New World Order has been pretty good for the Savage family. If Obama is Stalin-lite, the “lite” must stand for a willingness by Obama to allow his critics and their kin to prosper wildly instead of being sent to the gulags. Savage has earned millions during the age of Obama, and his son, Russell Weiner, has earned billions.

“I have no comment on anyone in my family. Any other questions,” Savage says when asked about his boy’s phenomenal feat.

Forbes magazine estimates that Russ, the founder of Rockstar Energy Drink, is worth $2.5 billion. Savage celebrated the coming release of his book in August on his son’s 165-foot yacht.

So does Savage at least admit that some of his rhetoric is for show? That he sometimes says things — like, say, we will face a civil war in 30 days if Republicans don’t win the Senate — to shock his audience?

“I don’t know. You would have to ask the audience what they think,” Savage said. “People interpret things in different ways. One man’s shock is another man’s awe.”


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To: servo1969

I wish he were on at a different time. Then I could listen. I can’t listen while I’m at work.


21 posted on 10/23/2014 4:54:50 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Texas isn't just a state. It's a state of mind!)
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To: servo1969

Anti gun Michael Savage is no friend of FR. He does have a mostly conservative outlook...but his anti second amendment bloviations is a deal breaker.


22 posted on 10/23/2014 4:56:09 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: servo1969
As a long-time listener of both Savage and Mark Levin I am convinced there is something here vis-a-vis Lincoln that's not understood.

There is a longstanding feud between Savage and Levin.

Daily Levin, seems to me, mocks Savage and Savage -- not so much anymore -- mocks back. I am glad for the latter mainly because Savage seemed to be disrespecting our cons-ti-tuuuuuuuuuuuu-shun mocking without naming Levin.

Levin's father has a very popular book out about Lincoln and it seems to me Savage goes out of his way to savage Lincoln for that reason.

Whoever typed in that posted article misses the main point of "the civil war" described by Savage, et al. Levin has described it a "quiet" (or similar word) civil war.

Here Abe will explain the meaning of our civil war. The fault is ours. Abe will explain from "the other side."

You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.


23 posted on 10/23/2014 4:59:17 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: servo1969

Does Michael Savage actual like anyone except Michael Savage?

I used to listen to him when I was driving home from work and those few minutes were about all I could take.


24 posted on 10/23/2014 5:03:18 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
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To: servo1969

Listening to savage can be pleasant, actually, as in when her states what should be obvious to most but which escapes the analysis of even the most investigative of journalists, that Obama is not necessarily dumb but probably malicious and certainly not it for our benefit as Americans

But that point does not escape rush, and that is what keeps rush relevant BTW, among other things - like his optimism

But savage resorts to bashing and he doesn’t seem to get that people don’t have to like it. And a lot of people do not like that. And it iIS unnecessary.

He is a port. But the bashing he does, detracts from that. He could be a treasure but his nastiness takes him out of that tier


25 posted on 10/23/2014 5:08:59 AM PDT by stanne
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To: servo1969
And 20,000 people in the 1860s would be what today? Two million or more?

Mike is apparently math-challenged. It would be about 200,000.

26 posted on 10/23/2014 5:14:58 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: EBH

The non-constitutional idea of “czars” is a pretty old one. They are merely presidential advisers. They have no power of their own, but rather only such powers as the president chooses to delegate to them. The president is responsible for anything they do, or don’t do.

The idea goes back at least as far as A. Jackson’s “kitchen cabinet.”


27 posted on 10/23/2014 5:19:17 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: DoodleDawg

If he did, and I am going to find out, he will get an earful in response here since I know he will be reading this thread.


28 posted on 10/23/2014 5:24:47 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: mc5cents
You mean like Bill Ted Baxter O'Reilly?

No, it's like precisely like the bloviator... I think Bill is more an outwardly dismissive douchebag... Michael is more a resentful, talk-out-the-side-of-the-mouth snarky type.

I don't mean to badmouth either, really... they are entertainers, and I find them... entertaining... just not the sort of people that I would want to have their approach to life rub off on me.

29 posted on 10/23/2014 5:26:05 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: servo1969

In this instance, Michael Savage is 100% correct.


30 posted on 10/23/2014 5:39:48 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Olog-hai

I catch Savage occasionally - and while he does rail on the east coast Jews, I’ve never heard him bash Israel. As far as any comments about the founding fathers - that’s part of his ongoing on-air feud with Levin (which I wish they’d both drop).


31 posted on 10/23/2014 5:40:22 AM PDT by mykroar (Let justice be done though the heavens should fall. - John Adams)
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To: Olog-hai

Savage never bashes Israel or the founding fathers. Ancestry-wise he is a Russian Jew whose family escaped Russia just before Stalin came into power. He detests commies.


32 posted on 10/23/2014 5:41:53 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: ransacked

He’s fantastic, but his screener never let’s me in.
He finally picked up on the voting machine ‘glitches.’ This same thing happened to my wife in Hunterdon County New Jersey in 2012. She pressed ‘R’ but the thing changed to ‘D’. She called the poll worker over who cleared machine without a redo and told my wife “this has been happening a lot today.” Hello 4 million ‘no shows?’


33 posted on 10/23/2014 5:55:42 AM PDT by conductor john (from jersey)
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To: Sherman Logan

I know Sherman, but 0bama’s regime nearly mirrors the very people in his cabinet.

They have no power except that given to them by the dictator. If things go down as Savage predicts post election 2014, they will not be some innocuous force any longer.


34 posted on 10/23/2014 5:55:58 AM PDT by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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To: bmwcyle
Rush has become a waste of time.

Have you noticed that Rush is now using the very same "vocal fry" that he ridiculed a while back? I can no longer listen to him, with his croaking and creaking in the back of his throat.

35 posted on 10/23/2014 6:00:05 AM PDT by Salvey
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To: Vaquero
He does have a mostly conservative outlook...but his anti second amendment bloviations is a deal breaker.

Sounds like Chris Christie.

36 posted on 10/23/2014 6:01:10 AM PDT by Salvey
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To: ohioman
That’s false. Weiner does bash Israel and the Founding Fathers.
37 posted on 10/23/2014 6:17:40 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Salvey

Maybe he has a sore throat this week?


38 posted on 10/23/2014 6:17:42 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Rodamala

He also spends considerable time promoting meatball recipes.


39 posted on 10/23/2014 6:18:31 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: servo1969
while suggesting – falsely – that he has forced 8,000 officers from the military for political reasons.

The only way to know for sure if his suggestion is false, is to allow the 8,000 officers to talk openly & honestly without fear of recrimination.

40 posted on 10/23/2014 6:23:25 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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