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The surprising comeback of train travel
CNN Travel ^ | October 189, 2014 | Jareen Imam

Posted on 10/22/2014 4:25:31 PM PDT by QT3.14

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To: Publius
...because Amtrak doesn't use generally accepted accounting practices (GAAP).

Aren't they required to use fund accounting? Amtrak has always been a pretty big recipient of federal largess.

When I worked for a large state university they would sometimes get around FOI obligations by providing general ledger reports, but no sub-ledger details. Individual transactions are always posted to sub-ledger accounts, so that is where all the interesting detail is to be found.

61 posted on 10/22/2014 5:12:10 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: QT3.14

Bring portable Lysol and rubber disposable gloves for the bathrooms. The N-S Atlantic seaboard runs are filled (both ways) often with people who don’t know what a flush toilet is, or do not care to be hygienic in their use. Them not knowing anything about hygiene to begin with. It’s not the Orient Express. Literally disgusting.


62 posted on 10/22/2014 5:15:29 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Publius

When I was in High School (50 years ago) folks would take a train (the “Nancy Hanks”) from Macon, Ga to Atlanta in the morning, to go shopping, then return in the evening. IIRC, that was about a 90 mile trip.

When our son was in Middle School, he won the county Geography Bee. The prize was a free Amtrak trip for him & a parent (me) to the NC State finals in Raleigh. We lived in the mountains west of Asheville, so we had to drive to Greenville, SC to board Amtrak. From there we had to ride to Washington, DC, change trains, then head back to Raleigh.

It was a fun trip, but I believe we went clear round Nellie’s barn to get there!


63 posted on 10/22/2014 5:16:40 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Mother of Epidemics- "Gang Green and the Government Staff Infection" - G. Morgan, Freedom Foundation)
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To: SeeSharp
They use their own accounting system, and that means you can't get reliable numbers for the costs related to an individual train. They spread costs around in a non-standard manner.

If you believe Amtrak's numbers, the long distance trains are terrible money losers. In actuality, they are cash cows because they sell the same seat and sleeping compartment over and over. Using the Empire Builder as an example, this is because the average passenger doesn't board at Chicago to go to Seattle, which are the two endpoints. He boards at St. Paul (MN) and goes to Kalispell (MT). This is why the components of the train are sold more than once for each trip, and that's how the train makes money.

64 posted on 10/22/2014 5:18:30 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: SamAdams76
Did I mention that I grab a 24 oz Foster's oil can for the trip home? Yes, Grand Central sells you beer for the train ride home. How sweet is that!

Years ago, on the NJ Transit Coastal Commuter Line, the train would switch engines from diesel to electric in Long Branch NJ.

It took about 12 minutes.

Ironically there was a bar/package goods store across the tracks.

There was a mad dash across the tracks. ....then the poker games began on board.

One time, a guy had a stripper meet us. I kid you not!

It was probably the best commute from NY to the Jersey Shore.

65 posted on 10/22/2014 5:20:39 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: svcw

And trains (Spain), and subways (Britian). They HATE any transportation faster than a camel.


66 posted on 10/22/2014 5:24:38 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: QT3.14

must be a train troll


67 posted on 10/22/2014 5:25:04 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: svcw

Me too. I’ve rode the California Zephyr from Chicago to LA a couple times. It’s a long trip. Beautiful scenery. You have lots of time to meet interesting people.


68 posted on 10/22/2014 5:25:14 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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I love trains, I hate Amtrak. Only a government entity could turn an nice six hour trip into a sixteen hour disaster.


69 posted on 10/22/2014 5:26:56 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: QT3.14

I love the train.


70 posted on 10/22/2014 5:29:03 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Eventually NJT will have dual-power locomotives, and that means the change at Long Branch won’t be necessary.


71 posted on 10/22/2014 5:29:38 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: GeronL

I don’t know about existing trains, but the most recent of my my occasional calculations for just the infrastructure for CA high-speed rail is up to $159 per person. Add operating expenses to that: advertising, salaries, electricity, etc.


72 posted on 10/22/2014 5:31:43 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: OneWingedShark

I need to help my nephew do a pamphlet for school, I got a Google Docs thing open, is there a special format for those kinds of things?


73 posted on 10/22/2014 5:32:08 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Publius
Eventually NJT will have dual-power locomotives, and that means the change at Long Branch won’t be necessary.

It's all electric now several years . No more engine changes.

A sad, sad day that happened.

74 posted on 10/22/2014 5:34:09 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: jiggyboy

wow


75 posted on 10/22/2014 5:35:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: KarlInOhio

I know. I don’t care what the mode of transportation is: 5 hours per day is prohibitive. Heck, even 2 hours per day is too much.


76 posted on 10/22/2014 5:37:08 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: dfwgator

http://www.rockymountaineer.com/en_US/routes_and_packages/canadian_rocky/coast_to_coast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxRsMZbgKms


77 posted on 10/22/2014 5:38:21 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: GeronL
I need to help my nephew do a pamphlet for school, I got a Google Docs thing open, is there a special format for those kinds of things?

I use WordPerfect to do mine — all you have to do is use three columns on a landscaped page.
You could probably use tables to get the same effect; I haven't done a lot w/ authoring using Google-docs, but I'd be glad to help.

78 posted on 10/22/2014 5:39:44 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: dfwgator

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=glacier+express


79 posted on 10/22/2014 5:42:22 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: colorado tanker
This guy is not a great example of a changing trend. Train commuting has always been popular in New York. The traffic is horrible and parking is off the charts. It makes a lot of sense in the densely populated Northeast.

Plus, on the train you can read, nap, surf the web, or whatever.

80 posted on 10/22/2014 5:45:27 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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