Posted on 10/20/2014 1:30:39 PM PDT by Din Maker
Votes are a product.
If I don’t want the product being offered, I will either not buy anything, or buy a different one.
If the GOP keeps attacking conservatives, why are they shocked when conservatives don’t vote for them?
Why would you vote for a candidate with views you don’t like, who doesn’t like you, and is opposed to what you believe in?
“Democrats are interested in winning. Conservatives, its hard to say what we are interested in, but winning is not very high up on our list.”
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Why the gratuitous shot in this thread, out of nowhere, at conservatives? You frequently claim to want Republican unity, but frequently take shots at conservatives. Practice what you preach!
Compromise always ratchets left. I’m pretty sure Einstein or somebody proved that.
A single vote, for or against someone is useless. The only thing more useless is a failure to vote. In the political process, you band together with likeminded people to vote for people who will carry your agenda forward. You have to carefully define likeminded, because if you are too particular, you cannot elect your desired candidate and usually someone who will work against your wishes will come to power. You need to pick someone with a broad appeal who can act in a very focused way on very specific ideas without alienating the mushy and disengaged middle. Ronald Reagan understood this dynamic perfectly. Many others do not and they can never succeed.
Your criticism is merited. I do not mean to point a finger at conservatives, to do so would mean that four fingers are pointing back at me. My complaint is aimed at people who advocate sitting at home doing nothing, voting for Democrats, or supporting some guy with a 48 hour pass from a mental institution. These folks claim to be conservatives, but they are not. Even if their intentions are good, their behavior is harmful to the conservative cause. I find that behavior difficult to support, and I won’t.
If they are in favor of womens empowerment, and women in politics and all that, how do they explain this?
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Because they are more in favor of:
1. A candidate who will let them kill their unborn babies.
2. A candidate who will give them money, free medical care and food stamps if they have their babies.
Want is 3X more?
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I assume you’re asking “What” is 3x more? 35 Field offices is almost 3x more that 13 Field offices.
Are you saying Edmund, that the GOP doesn’t have money? Yes they do, but, they have to pay everybody for working for GOP Campaigns; DemocRATS volunteer.
I’m thinking we might see some “surprises” on Election Night. I just pray that Joni Ernst wins. The rest of the GOP which are either RINOs or crusty old farts with one foot in the grave who think that Senate Seat belongs to them.... who gives a s**t? To hell with them.
See, once again you are missing the point. For instance, I will vote for Eranst because she does represent many of my views. The GOP and other so called “conservative” media has come out against her.
So the party really doesn’t want my vote, they have been pretty clear about how they are not for what Jodi stands for. So, why should I as a voter have loyalty to the party who is actively trying to get their own candidate to lose the election?
I don’t care about the Republican Party, but I want conservatives to bend the party to our will. That can only happen from within the party. In a two party system, the only alternative is the Democrat Party and that is simply not acceptable.
Either the GOP-E represents our values or they don’t get our votes.
Non-negotiable.
Don’t like the results??
Go whine to someone that cares.
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HECK YEAH! You tell ‘em SoConPubbie! Voting is a sacred right. No one has a right to my vote. They have to earn it. If they don’t earn it..... piss off. I’m not your political sugar daddy.
actually, you have that bass ackwards.
The problem is that we, as typical voters, have little to no influence on the party platform.
The party issues are decided by the elite and big donors. The concerns expressed by the rank and file are not even a topic of discussion. The reason why Ernst is making so many waves is she was not approved by the GOPE, grew her own base of support, and is addressing topics that the GOPE has no desire to.
For instance, she is pro life. The GOP does not like that (ruffles to many feathers). Ernst is also against amnesty, which the GOP desperately needs (cheap, non taxable labor). She is for limited taxes, limited government, and reduced regulation. All of those are a threat to the powers in Washington.
This is a local race for me. There have been many so called “conservative” media pieces attacking her for being to radical, to conservative, for elections.
Again, the GOP is TRYING to lose my vote. They don’t want me in the party. I don’t have the money or influence to change that. Because of the circumstances of my birth, I will never have the influence. Simply put, we inhabit different worldview’s, and will not meet in them middle because we no longer speak the same language.
I can, and do, work locally. But my days of voting for the “R” are over. Each person has to convince me to buy their product.
Tax dollars can buy a lot of cool technology and programming for the democrats.
You didn’t think they were really spending billions on solar panels, did you?
(lose paraphrase of Independence day and Area 51)
Being here on ground zero like you, my gut feeling is that Ernst has tremendous momentum right now. It may not be as close as some people think.
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From your Keyboard to God’s ears. Women are the largest bloc of voters in any election. You’d think they’d like to see the first woman ever elected to the U.S. Senate from Iowa, happen this year. They could be part of history. But, then, there are a lot of women who just vote for whoever will let them kill their unborn babies or support them after they’re born.
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