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NC magistrate refuses to marry gay couple (faces removal or suspension)
WBAY - AP ^ | Oct 14, 2014 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/16/2014 9:49:32 AM PDT by xzins

A state magistrate in Pasquotank County could face disciplinary action after refusing to marry two men following the end of North Carolina's gay marriage ban.

Magistrate Gary Littleton declined on Monday to perform the couple's civil ceremony, citing his religious views that marriage should be between one man and one woman. Under state law, a magistrate who fails to perform his or her legal duties can face removal or suspension.

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KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; unnaturalmarriage
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To: xzins

case law is a law until or unless a higher court overrules it or the legislature passes a new law.

What is the religious test for the post? When you’re in a government post and the law change if you can’t live with it you either resign, get fired, or get it changed.

There is no expectation of the law to remain the same.


21 posted on 10/16/2014 10:13:34 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: lepton

case law IS a law.


22 posted on 10/16/2014 10:14:00 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: xzins

The only thing that will stop this is armed patriots standing guard outside the clerk’s offices. They will have the numbers to face down police. There is no other way.


23 posted on 10/16/2014 10:15:27 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: xzins
Why can't he just rule the law that threatens his removal unconstitutional? I know why, but it seems some other judge rule a NC law unconstitutional.
24 posted on 10/16/2014 10:18:06 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: xzins

your number 2. Good thing under your explanation Muslims don’t hold more offices.


25 posted on 10/16/2014 10:18:12 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Regulator

There ya go.


26 posted on 10/16/2014 10:20:12 AM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: xzins
following the end of North Carolina's gay marriage ban.

NC didn't end the ban, the SCOTUS did. So why should be be suspended?

27 posted on 10/16/2014 10:32:23 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Regulator

Good point.


28 posted on 10/16/2014 10:34:22 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: morphing libertarian

case law IS a law.


So the legislature can just amend it?


29 posted on 10/16/2014 10:34:46 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Responsibility2nd
It’ll be a priest, minister, rabbi (but NOT a muslim cleric) that will be banned, fined, or even jailed for refusing to “uphold the law”

Has a Catholic priest ever been sued for refusing to marry two divorced people? Has a Rabbi ever been sued for refusing to marry an interfaith couple?

Yes, bakers and catering-hall owners may have legal problems (although they shouldn't), but clergy are not going to get sued.

30 posted on 10/16/2014 10:36:24 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: xzins

The guy is a hero. If the perversion lobby is going to push this obscenity, then maybe those who are rational and know morality (not to mention biology) should push back and ban homosexuality as it was banned before 1960.


31 posted on 10/16/2014 10:37:15 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Our present appeasement of Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: lepton

In many cases the legislature can change the law and redirect from the issues considered by the court and in some cases not.

You have seen that in congress when someone proposes a change after a USSC case decision.

In this case best of luck.

But you cannot impose your religious belief on your employer or the populace if you are in a position governed by the laws and regulations of the state, local, or feds.

If you can’t abide something serious, resign.


32 posted on 10/16/2014 10:39:58 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Lurking Libertarian; xzins

“...but clergy are not going to get sued.”

____________________________________________

Really?

Its just a matter of time. Ask xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! )

I suspect he knows that military chaplains are facing religious persecutions right now.

And that idiot lezzie mayor in Houston might have failed (this time) in having pastors submit their sermons for approval. But it won’t be long....


33 posted on 10/16/2014 10:46:45 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: morphing libertarian

How’s that expression go (aside of ‘by the wayside’, as it it these days): “All laws repugnant to the Constitution...”

Think we still have a 9th and 10th...somewhere.


34 posted on 10/16/2014 10:48:16 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: i_robot73

I am not defending the appellate and USSC courts. Merely saying if you work in government you should follow the laws. Of course the hero of benghazi included.

Think about having some of the religions being followed in public office. Islam etc.


35 posted on 10/16/2014 10:51:40 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian
Think about having some of the religions being followed in public office. Islam etc.

You sound like a liberal and this is a strawman. This country was built on Christianity and no other.

36 posted on 10/16/2014 10:55:13 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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37 posted on 10/16/2014 10:55:43 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: morphing libertarian

That wasn’t my point. My point was, because this was handled extra-legislatively, “getting the law changed” isn’t an option...not at the local level, at the state level, or at the federal level.


38 posted on 10/16/2014 10:56:13 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: xzins

Number 2 is why the left is subtly trying to change the language of “free exercise” to “freedom of worship”.

Then, once they get there, you can’t express your religion outside of official worship services.


39 posted on 10/16/2014 10:57:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: lepton

then the employee should quit or follow the law.

My point is every law change starts somewhere. Don’t know what thew future will bring but the gay marriage battle seems over and our side lost.

You always have a choice to follow your conscience or not. Just be ready to accept the consequences. But public officials cannot hold office and violate the law, unless they’re in the WH or congress, of course.

Imagine the consequnences on public services if every one followed their religious beliefs in their ministerial duties, muslims, etc.


40 posted on 10/16/2014 10:59:41 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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