Posted on 10/15/2014 5:09:19 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
So the government decides what a Church may say? The government can dictate to a church that certain biblical passages are not protected speech?
Church Czar's in the near future. . .just to ensure a church toes the political line and only preaches in favor of homosexuality, homo-m,arriage, illegal aliens, redistribution of wealth. . .got it.
Putz.
For mail and wire fraud involving the sale of fraudulent shares in the PTL resort and other fleecing of his investors/contributors. He was a crook running a very elaborate ponzi scheme.
I agree with your points 100%.
But the Marxists/atheists are in control. As they, as planned, control our educational system and media, our nation is predominantly dumbed-down and brainwashed - and the percentages of such are only on the increase. Until we have a solution for dealing with the root of their brainwashing, their numbers will only increase.
I believe only a collapse and revival of truth (a Christian world-view, and personal revival) can change things.
So the likelihood of our changing the status quo on tax law is nil.
I’m saying that there is another way around this - if only for the present situation. Even if not tax-exempt, every church should show zero profits, leaving themselves only subject to property taxes, sales taxes, etc. These should not impact true believers in any significant way.
It’s coming, we know it’s coming, we’ve been told it’s coming.
Exactly how the Founding Fathers saw it!
Too much fear mongering. Too much hype.
And you come across with almost irrational hatred of ADF - and your arguments don’t work.
As stated - pastors can continue to claim 501(c)3 status AND preach the gospel and allow the IRS to attempt to enforce the regulations that you claim are solid law. As stated elsewhere - the IRS has repeatedly REFUSED to bring a case forward, because they know that they would LOSE it.
In the same manner - whenever I am contacted by the Census Bureau - I refuse to answer ANY questions except how many people live at my residence. They want all sorts of additional data and they quickly cite various ‘laws’ that mandate my answering them. I tell them to take me to court, because there are plenty of non-profit organizations that are LOOKING for a chance to challenge those laws in court. There is a thing called ‘STANDING’ - and these non-profit legal organizations can’t challenge the law by themselves...they need someone who is being ‘injured’ by the law. So the Census Bureau uses the regulations/laws to coerce compliance - but they won’t actually allow any case to proceed so that no one has standing to challenge the law. If challenged and the courts find that the laws/regulations are an un Constitutional invasion of privacy, the Census Bureau would no longer be able to coerce compliance from the majority of the people the can be coerced.
In the same manner - the IRS will fold like a cheap suit if they tried to actually enforce the regulations and thus give ‘standing’ to a pastor, and then ADF can step in and actually assist in overturning the regulations.
You - on the other hand - want to cripple churches - and your irrational declarations won’t stand critical analysis.
There are similar clauses for general corporations. Roy Cohen got nailed for claiming a $100,000 yearly income/salery from his corporation but enjoying a million dollar a year corporate expense account which he didn't claim as personal income.
where is the not this s*** again.
this is an election distraction and just nonsense.
we must focus on getting out the vote and crushing the electoral enemy.
“That’s where Houston’s Mayor has these churches by the ears.
They are attempting to “influence legislation”.
These churches are “guilty as charged”. “
So, the government will decide what churches can preach, what biblical passages must be ignored otherwise they will be ‘influencing legislation.’
ANY preaching that addresses moral issues, such as homosexuals and abortion, WILL affect legislation, therefore, the government can ban those churches, penalize them for preaching the Word of God.
If they are not tax exempt then the church has to pay the government for the right to exist (collection plate takings. . .taxed, church soup kitchens, taxed, clothes for the poor, taxed, etc).
If they are tax exempt then they can’t say anything because church teachings are MORAL teachings, and government laws and regulations many times are moral issues.. .so, what’s left if you can’t preach what the Bible says?
Canada and their human rights councils and the UK arresting street preachers. . .they are long gone. . .but in the US, we have not lost yet, unless we cave in and not fight back.
Government will lose and lose badly if they try to silence churches and the Word of God.
A piker when compared to the ‘rev’ al sharpton.
bingo
is there a link to the Houston Comical article?
Pastors to Defy IRS Snoops by Daring Them to Place Them Under Arrest
Atheists Get Target-Happy IRS to Spy On Pastors’ Sermons
IRS has a “Political Activities Referral Committee” which spies on preaching
If Satan’s minions cannot win by using “tax exempt status”, then they will use zoning ordinances.
That concept does not appear anywhere in the Constitution. It was a line in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Church in defense of the First Amendment. The Supreme Court did not start redefining, revising and dismantling the Founder's conception of Freedom of Religion until the last half of the 20th century, and their decisions have been snowballing since then.
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