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Breaking Now : AFP: authorities say a second health worker in Texas has tested positive for Ebola
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Posted on 10/15/2014 1:55:41 AM PDT by sunmars

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To: servantboy777

According to Louise Troh, Duncan was very private about his illness and attended to himself. I tend to believe that they either knew or suspected that he had Ebola, so they kept him quarantined to one room. Also, one of the relatives is a healthcare worker, and she was the one that warned the paramedics to put on additional gear, so perhaps she was making sure that everyone stayed away from him and decontaminated any areas in the apartment where he may have been.

His viral load may have also been much lower in his first days in the apartment, so there was less chance of contagion.

It is very curious, though, that for a virus that is supposedly so “hard to catch”, why they took everything out of that apartment, including the permanent fixtures and incinerated it. I believe it was 5 or 6 truckloads, for an apartment that was described as “sparsely furnished”. But, no danger here. Move along now...


301 posted on 10/15/2014 6:40:02 AM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Bluebird Singing
" I saw Freiden (CDC) on Megyn Kelly’s show last night. He thinks it is perfectly fine for these nurses to be in the room with Duncan without face coverings or shoe coverings - just gloves - that’s the protocol he is defending. "

This f ing bastard needs to show some leadership on the issue and go help care for the (at least for now) two ebola cases in Dallas. NO face covering, respirator, or SCBA / hazmat suit, no shoe coverings. Just gloves. Whatever he said on TV is what he ought to get the opportunity to do.

Go for it, dude.

God damn them all to hell with ebola. All the 0 people for doing this, all the Republicans who haven't said jack hsit about it because they don't want to close the borders either.

There's gonna be hell to pay...

302 posted on 10/15/2014 6:40:23 AM PDT by OKSooner (Hospice in place and await further instructions.)
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To: sunmars

No doubt CDC Director Frieden will blame this poor health care giver for violating the non-existent CDC Ebola “protocols” and then proceed to explain how it’s imperative NOT to stop west African flights from infected countries because that will somehow accelerate the spread of Ebola in AFRICA and the ONLY way the U.S. will be safe is if we cure everyone in AFRICA of Ebola. I kid you not! I said all of this on Megyn Kelly last night. The most interesting matter of course is that he spilled the beans the the Obama administration is actually more concerned about the people of Africa than the citizens of the U.S.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK6WosNHQ3g

The problems with things like Ebola is that they grow exponentially. Even if Ebola grows slowly to start with, unfortunately, we ain’t seen nuttin yet. Just wait until flu and norovirus season hits to see what a completely paralyzed nation that battens down the barricades REALLY looks like as millions have symptoms that are much like how Ebola starts off! The trenches of our medical system are woefully unprepared for something like this. And thank you, President Obola for your “fundamental transformation” when flu season hits! Oh, and PLEASE let’s keep those West African shuttles flying back and forth, since obviously it would do no good anyway with your open borders policy.

Oh, and everyone? Be sure to vote a straight Democrat ticket in November: they really DO care about you folks, ya’ll hear? After all:

“Now, I am not on the ballot this fall,” Obama stressed. “... But make no mistake: My policies are on the ballot — every single one of them.” (Including unrestricted West African air flights.)

King Barack Hussein Obama, October 2, 2014, Northwestern University


303 posted on 10/15/2014 6:43:20 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

The stock market is worried about something this morning.


304 posted on 10/15/2014 6:43:59 AM PDT by John W (Autumn of Recovery VI: This Time We're Serious)
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To: DouglasKC

Why would you believe they would tell us the truth? That whole bunch is probably dead already and they can’t tell us now because of the fear and panic. They know that would cause social services to break down and civil unrest.


305 posted on 10/15/2014 6:44:30 AM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Wonder what Slick and Cankles did with the rent a dogs now they have grandbaby for optics?)
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To: sunmars

Where are the idiot Freeping Parrots that kept parroting WHO’s and CDC’s line that ebola is hard to catch?

They should have to go apologize in person and without protective care to these health care workers.


306 posted on 10/15/2014 6:44:47 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: sunmars
"There is no Ebola here.. Really, trust me.."

There is absolutely nothing to worry about!


307 posted on 10/15/2014 6:44:48 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I, Barrack E Obolabama support the left wing war on Ebola. Fox News and Republicans will fight me.)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Crowd Control, # 1 job of the US government.


308 posted on 10/15/2014 6:45:17 AM PDT by John W (Autumn of Recovery VI: This Time We're Serious)
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To: sunmars; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
...unexpectedly...

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

309 posted on 10/15/2014 6:46:59 AM PDT by null and void ("Agoraphobia": fear of the marketplace; "AlGoreaphobia": fear of the marketplace of ideas.)
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To: sunmars
I can't help but think of this. I go someplace in my car. I need gas. I pull into station and open gas tank. I put my credit card in the reader and it asks for zip code to be entered. Then it asks if I want a receipt and I punch all the appropriate buttons. I grab nozzle and start pumping, finish and put the nozzle back in the holder. I get in the car and drive off.

Never knowing that 10 min. prior to my arriving at the pump a guy who was feeling bad, had wiped his nose with his hand just before he got out and did what I did after him. You see, he was on the way to the doctor or hospital because he knew that he had been in contact with someone who was infected with Ebola and wanted help.

I drive off to my destination having no idea that I have just acquired the virus.

310 posted on 10/15/2014 6:50:17 AM PDT by Flint
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To: sunmars

UK Guardian is reporting the nurses union as saying the hospital gave them wrong protective gear, did not isolate Mr. Duncan immediately and also did not require a standard protocol of care.

I pray they are doing the necessary contact mapping right now.


311 posted on 10/15/2014 6:50:24 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus (iI)
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To: John W

PMs are spiking and the Dow is tanking.

You can’t fool big money.


312 posted on 10/15/2014 6:50:42 AM PDT by wrench
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To: sunmars
Death ratio in Africa has climbed over 70%, which means it could be mutating, strains mixing creating new strains.

No, it just means they have had to own up to the fact they were adding new cases into the numbers to make it look like a 50% death rate. Somebody finally asked the what the death rate was because charity doctors were coming back with the truth.

I would even question the nicely rounded 70% number because last week it was 84%.

313 posted on 10/15/2014 6:52:46 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: sunmars
They have to shut that whole hospital down, it is contaminated.
They sent the lab samples through the hospital tube system. That is a massive contamination.
The nurses who took care of Duncan also took care of other patients, even though their PPE was not adequate.
So you have a huge number of potential Ebola contacts.
Shut that hospital down, disinfect everything, and send the workers who have Ebola to Emory or a facility that can handle this problem.
Freiden needs to resign.
314 posted on 10/15/2014 6:53:16 AM PDT by kaila
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To: abb
It cannot be spread simply by being near someone who is infected.

Unless you are near an Ebola sufferer who is projectile-vomiting, typically quite likely to be the case.

315 posted on 10/15/2014 6:53:26 AM PDT by expat2
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To: Scutter

It’s called “Point of Origin”. He would have never been allowed to board a plane out of there.


316 posted on 10/15/2014 6:54:30 AM PDT by petercooper (Liberalism = Amnesty = Open Borders = Illegal Immigration = Ebola = Obama)
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To: DB

Not sure this is true. They are provided with plasma, not full blood.


317 posted on 10/15/2014 6:54:34 AM PDT by expat2
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To: knittnmom

I think they use Dr. Brantly because he was administered ZMAPP which is made with monoclonial antibodies which helps the immune system fight the disease. IMO


318 posted on 10/15/2014 6:55:36 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary & remove the son of a kenyan mooslimb)
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To: Shelayne

The pictures of two men (w/o protective gear) power washing the sidewalk in front of the apt. rings in my head. A woman with sandals also walking through the water trailing into the parking lot.

Let’s say the family did practice some sort of “one room” quarantine, did he use the bathroom? Did they feed him with plastic spoons and paper plates?

If he projectile vomited in front of the apartment, did he have an accident in the other living quarters of the apartment? A less than 1200 sq ft living space mind you.

Tick tick tick


319 posted on 10/15/2014 7:02:46 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: sunmars

“I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation.”

Remarks of Senator Barack Obama
Final Primary Night
Tuesday, June 3rd, 2008
St. Paul, Minnesota


320 posted on 10/15/2014 7:07:16 AM PDT by CodeJockey
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