Posted on 10/15/2014 1:55:41 AM PDT by sunmars
“After meeting with top advisers about Ebola at the White House Monday afternoon, President Obama said his administration will be “working on protocols to do additional passenger screening both at the source and here in the United States.” The White House said it was not considering a travel ban.”
Additional protocols like the ones that already have a plague unleashed? Additional screening?
I feel so safe.
Just trying to keep up w/all new info...but where is “here?”
(City where Liberian is in quarantine?)
15% of ebola patients never get the fever, one of the earliest symptoms. Also:
Of particular concern is the frequent presence of EBOV in saliva early during the course of disease, where it could be transmitted to others through intimate contact and from sharing food, especially given the custom, in many parts of Africa, of eating with the hands from a common plate.
http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/196/Supplement_2/S142.full
Try google.
Looks like Baghdad Bob is using anonymous minions this time.
Little doubt about that. The problem is, as you said, 150 people arriving every day potentially carrying the disease. 1/1000 will have it on average right now, but that will only increase.
The open-borders damned fools would rather risk the grisly, painful deaths of millions of Americans than admit they’ve been damned fools.
Google is going to find the republican leadership demanding an end to travel and sealed borders? Really? When did this happen?
This should pass off every American. The CDC has been politicized and people are dying because of it.
Thats pretty damn obvious. And all the deaths rest on their souls. As well as those of the people covering for them.
F’ing idiots.
That can really only happen in the petri dish in West Africa. There is such a small chance of that happening, it requires millions of new cases and even W. Africa is probably not going to get to that level. If it does happen (really bad luck) it will spread like wildfire over there and that would be very noticeable.
They couldn’t even get their military story right for the troops in Liberia:
Yes, they will be in contact with the population
Oops
No, they will only be testing blood samples, but never in contact with the population.
Right.
Thanks for posting. Health/life BTTT!
http://blogs.cdc.gov/cdcdirector/2014/10/02/why-u-s-can-stop-ebola-in-its-tracks/
For all healthcare workers…(from the cdc link above)…
112. October 14, 2014 at 2:24 pm ET - Lawrence Herbst
Dear Dr. Freiden,
I recognize that the CDC has no enforcement authority. However its recommendations and guidance obviously carry great weight. As I read the CDC’s recommendations for health care worker precautions in caring for patients with ebola infection, I am concerned regarding the lack of rigor in making specific recommendations for the types of personal protective equipment (PPE) and procedures for doffing and donning PPE. Ebola is a CDC-BMBL Biosafety level-4 agent. CDC should at least be strongly recommending Biosafety-level 3 PPE!
Recommendations posted on the CDC website (most recent dated June 2014) recommend gloves, mask, water resistant gown, face shield. However, given the high infectious titer in fluids (Emesis, urine, fecal, blood) and potential for environmental persistence for days in moist organic matter, as well as low infectious dose, I would hope, that you are upgrading the recommendations and will post them quickly. Meanwhile I respectfully urge the CDC to strengthen its recommendations as follows:
1. All recommendations should be “musts” [statements such as extra precautions might be considered are just useless!]
2. All gloving procedures should be double glove procedures with outer gloves decontaminated (bleach) and removed first and then the last pair removed after all other PPE. Gloves should be taped to the cuffs of the gown.
3. All gowns should be complete coverall types with integrated shoe covers (Tyvek jumpsuits) to cover any clothing that would continue to be worn after leaving the patient’s room!. Why: Because high titer fluids (vomit, blood, urine) splashed onto surfaces (bedrails, floor) may contaminate shoes, pant legs, etc.
4. Masks should be something better than surgeons masks (these are designed to protect the patient from the HCW more than vice versa). N95 at least is designed for wearer protection from droplet exposure (and required for BSL-3 agents!!!- ebola is level 4!!!).
5. All PPE should be sprayed with disinfectant prior to exiting the room. A buddy should be required to assist with donning and doffing PPE. The advantage of a full jumpsuit is that it can easily be rolled inside out (contaminated side inward) as it is removed.
I sincerely hope that the CDC is already making ungraded recommendations based on the unfortunate virus transmissions to nursing staff in Texas and Spain. In my opinion it is not particularly useful to evaluate “accidents” by assuming that an existing SOP would have been 100% effective, if only it had been properly followed. We are wiser to examine this from the perspective that the SOP was followed perfectly and that maybe this virus is not behaving exactly as we expect and then find ways to improve the SOP. Cost of implementing enhanced PPE that is closer in line to BSL-3 / 4 may be more expensive, but those suggested above are not that expensive!
Our understanding of ebola virus transmission is based on only a few decades experience and a small number of self-limiting outbreaks in that time. This outbreak may be different and our PPE recommendations should respect the fact that we do not know everything about this virus and its behavior in human populations.
The virus attackers would have a 30% chance of survival and then have immunity, freeing them to occupy their newly depopulated cities and impose Islam.
Pigs can catch, replicate, and transmit Ebola to humans. Muslim terrorists may see this as an especially attractive vector.
We seem to be rapidly approaching the end of 'that awkward phase'.
No concerns. Just a breach of protocol.
That is undoubtedly going to happen. We are bringing in 150 people from Ebola Land every week and that is going to increase. Right now they have a 1 in 1000 chance of having Ebola and that is increasing.
We know O’bastard don’t want to do it.
In light of this, CDC head honcho’s sort-of apology yesterday is so inadequate.
Wonder how the community organizer turned CDC chief can keep his job.
“Just last month a study was published that showed that a statistically significant portion of people who come down with Ebola do not display the ‘defining’ symptom of fever. The government has been saying that if you don’t have a fever you’re not contagious. Yeah, about that...”
IIRC, that same study found 15% of ebola cases never develop a fever. Yet, they are only screening for fever when trying to stop infected travelers.
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