Rand Paul, Ted Cruz Differ on Gay Marriage and Military

News Max ^ | 10/09/2014 | Jennifer G. Hickey

[thetallguy24]

Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky and Ted Cruz of Texas share a desire to run for president in 2016, but this week the Republicans differed on an issue of importance to the conservative base — gay marriage.

During a recent visit to South Carolina's College of Charleston, Paul told CNN that "people change their minds all the time" on the issue of gay marriage.

“The bottom line is, I’m old fashioned, and I’m a traditionalist. I believe in old-fashioned traditional marriage. But, I don’t really think the government needs to be too involved with this, and I think that the Republican Party can have people on both sides of the issue," he said.

Paul's comments were in stark contrast to those made by Cruz following the Supreme Court's decision not to address gay marriage during the high court's new term.

“The Supreme Court’s decision to let rulings by lower court judges stand that redefine marriage is both tragic and indefensible," said Cruz in a statement. "By refusing to rule if the states can define marriage, the Supreme Court is abdicating its duty to uphold the Constitution.”

[thetallguy24]

Paul has spent way too much time with his daddy...

[Jim Robinson]

FURP!!

[greene66]

I’ll never give Rand Paul my vote. I always figured he’d be wobbly on fag-marriage, due to his libertarian leanings.

[spinestein]

Rand Paul is absolutely right about the need for the government to stay out of this issue as much as possible.

The individual states should be very cautious about interfering with what their citizens want. If they want gays to be able to marry then so be it.

And no matter what, the federal government should leave this completely alone.

[SoConPubbie]

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[SoConPubbie]

Hat tip to SunkenCiv for compiling this list.

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[Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]

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I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.

[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]

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[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]

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Rand Paul's immigration speech

...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.

[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]

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Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform

Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...

[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]

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[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]

[svcw]

So he can’t make up his mind-got it.

[pollywog]

TED CRUZ FOR PRESIDENT... !!!!!! NO RAND PAUL!!! NO RAND PAUL!!!

[GeronL]

Go Cruz Go!

[DJ MacWoW]

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[cva66snipe]

Paul has spent way too much time with his daddy...

More likely with Mitch and Karl. Rand has gone GOP-E. It didn't take him long.

[greene66]

Paul and the libertarian-inclined are always going on and on about how it should be left up to states (all well and good), but then when tyrannical Federal judges come in and force this depravity on states whose voters and legislatures voted otherwise, legally and constitutionally passing state amendments to define marriage, where the hell are Paul and the libertarian-types? Why aren’t they out there railing against this? Why are they always invariably quiet about what happens right on the ground, right in their faces, and then just repeat the same generic crap about states having the rights?

My guess? They don’t really give a damn. They share the same socially liberal views as the black-robed tyrants.

[ansel12]

What a perfect Rand Paul quote.

“The bottom line is, I’m old fashioned, and I’m a traditionalist. I believe in old-fashioned traditional marriage. But, I don’t really think the government needs to be too involved with this, and I think that the Republican Party can have people on both sides of the issue,"

Good ole Paul, government? What's that? By the way I am a Senator and now am running for President of the United States, to head the Executive Branch of government, gay marriage in the military, federal employment, immigration, foreign policy, judge appointments, federal policy, my Presidential policies and speeches, my party's direction and image and representing it's core values and platform, you mean those are affected and decided by the President? Really?

[Graewoulf]

Looks like “Rubber-Spine” Rand is at it again,
RE-building the BIG TENT for RINOs to rent!
There was Dole, McCain and Romney too,
And soon there will be no room for me and you - - - .

[ansel12]

Rand has dropped his conservative facade and is revealing his libertarianism.

[lormand]

I STAND WITH CRUZ!

[Christie at the beach]

His extremist slant of not wanting this nation to be on a solid footing by having standards goes back to his core beliefs. He’s mostly for everything that I do not respect nor believe in.

[lormand]

Exactly

True libertopians would be screaming to high heaven about judicial over-reach, but the ends justify the means to them.

Libertarians - liberals who hate taxes

[jazusamo]

Go Ted Cruz!

[Beagle8U]

Offer a Libtardian a big sack of dope to smoke with his queer boyfriend, and they would agree to vote for Hugo Chavez!