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Missouri Cop Shooting Sparks New Protests
Skynews ^ | October 9, 2014 | Sky News US Team

Posted on 10/09/2014 4:59:17 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian

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To: ScottinVA

Problem is... they destroy their own cities, then move on to less-destroyed ground and destroy that as well.


Have they ever moved into an area and made it better? Any where in the world?

They might should take a closer look in the mirror to see if they can find the real problem. It ain’t whitey.


21 posted on 10/09/2014 5:41:23 AM PDT by boycott
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To: glock rocks

Uh, yeah, I’ll have the stovepipe on rye...

Listen, I am not kidding, I have taken 9milly PB guns off of some who have had 9mm tokarev in the mag.

And they wonder why they jam..


22 posted on 10/09/2014 5:43:53 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: MNDude
Make sure that it is bad enough that it sucks for them, but not so bad that they move somewhere else.

Yes. At the local playground, take out the new jungle gym and swings and put in an old rusty swingset, and a rotting splintering wood seesaw. You know the kinds we used to get cut on, and splinters from.

23 posted on 10/09/2014 5:44:20 AM PDT by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Why 17 times? Because that is all the bullets he had IMO. Good for him...too bad he was not carrying an extended 33 rounder.


24 posted on 10/09/2014 5:46:00 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
"An investigation will decide if the officer's behaviour was appropriate," he said.

The Teen fired three shots at the officer. It were only appropriate if the officer had been hit?

25 posted on 10/09/2014 5:55:09 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
There are facts and figures covering aspects of "racial profiling" pretty much proving it's all Obama-Holder Dept. of Just Us and Our People (the race grievance industry) bull shit.

Police Behavior during Traffic and Street Stops, 2011

Traffic stops

About 71% of persons involved in streets stops thought the police behaved properly, compared to 88% of drivers pulled over in traffic stops

In 2011, less than 1% of the 241.4 million U.S. residents age 16 or older were involved in a street stop during their most recent contact with police (table 1; appendix table 2). A greater percentage of males (1%) than females (less than 1%) were involved in street stops during 2011. Persons ages 16 to 24 were more likely than persons age 35 or older to be involved in street stops. While no differences were observed in the percentage of non-Hispanic white, non-Hispanic black, and Hispanic populations age 16 or older involved in a street stop, among those who were stopped, a smaller percentage of blacks (38%) than Hispanics (63%) or whites (78%) felt the police behaved properly during the stop.

Traffic stops were a more common form of police contact than street stops in 2011. About 10% of the 212.3 million U.S. drivers age 16 or older were stopped while operating a motor vehicle during their most recent contact with police.1 As with street stops, a greater percentage of male drivers (12%) than female drivers (8%) were pulled over in traffic stops. Across age groups, the highest percentage of stopped drivers was among drivers ages 18 to 24 (18%). A higher percentage of black drivers (13%) than white (10%) and Hispanic (10%) drivers age 16 or older were pulled over in a traffic stop during their most recent contact with police.

A higher percentage of drivers in traffic stops (88%) than persons involved in street stops (71%) believed the police behaved properly during the stop. White drivers pulled over by police (89%) were more likely than black drivers (83%) to think that the police behaved properly, while no difference was observed between the percentages of stopped white drivers and Hispanic drivers who thought that the police behaved properly. There was also no statistical difference in the percentages of black and Hispanic stopped drivers who believed the police behaved properly.

Table 1 Involuntary contact with police among persons age 16 or older, by demographic characteristics and type of contact, 2011
Street stopsa Traffic stopsb
Percent of
stopped persons
Percent of
stopped drivers
Demographic
characteristics
Percent of
all persons
Total Police behaved
properlyd
Percent of
all driversc
Total Police behaved
properlyd
Total 0.6% 100% 70.7% 10.2% 100% 88.2%
Sex
Male 0.8% 67.5% 69.8% 11.9% 58.8% 86.9%
Female 0.4 32.5 72.7 8.4 41.2 89.9
Race/Hispanic origin
Whitee 0.6% 65.2% 77.6% 9.8% 69.3% 89.4%
Black/African Americane 0.6 12.4 37.7 ! 12.8 12.6 82.7
Hispanic/Latino 0.7 15.3 62.9 10.4 12.2 86.5
American Indian/Alaska Nativee 0.5 ! 0.6 ! 100 ! 15.0 0.6 74.2
Asian/Native Hawaiian/other Pacific Islandere 0.4 ! 3.6 ! 85.0 ! 9.4 4.0 89.5
Two or more racese 1.8 ! 3.1 ! 76.6 ! 13.4 1.3 94.8
Age
16–17 1.5% 8.5% 67.4% 9.0% 1.8% 92.3%
18–24 1.6 31.7 72.1 17.8 19.5 85.1
25–34 0.9 27.1 64.4 12.7 22.4 88.1
35–44 0.4 10.6 81.6 11.3 19.8 87.9
45–54 0.4 10.9 79.7 9.4 17.9 88.7
55–64 0.2 5.5 62.2 ! 7.1 11.4 89.7
65 or older 0.2 5.7 68.8 ! 4.8 7.2 92.3
Note: See appendix table 2 for estimates of the U.S. population and driving population age 16 or older and appendix table 3 for standard errors.

Source: Bureau of Justice Statistics, National Crime Victimization Survey, Police-Public Contact Survey, 2011.

26 posted on 10/09/2014 5:57:04 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Shaw Mo, 11 miles south of Ferguson, Mo. Cop working off duty for
a private firm. Deceased fired 3 rounds, cop fired 17.


27 posted on 10/09/2014 5:57:46 AM PDT by deport
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To: ScottinVA

Locust


28 posted on 10/09/2014 6:00:31 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: deport

I doubt that they’ve really examined it very well in their minds, considering logical thinking is not emphasized in their culture -

what are the cops supposed to do?
Just let the criminals steal, kill and destroy things without acting to stop them?

I suppose so.


29 posted on 10/09/2014 6:00:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: RoosterRedux

 ”All he had was a sandwich”

BLT, RIP, BFD.


30 posted on 10/09/2014 6:01:38 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: deport

Man that puts more round accurately on target wins.


31 posted on 10/09/2014 6:03:01 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
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32 posted on 10/09/2014 6:09:14 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: boycott
40+ years ago I lived in a neighborhood in St. Petersburg that had originally been white owner-occupied houses. It had become white rental houses and had declined considerably. Then black families over a few years bought most of the houses and he neighborhood improved a lot. That is when my wife and I bought a house there. The only other white person was an ancient man who had lived in his house since before the War. He told me the history of the neighborhood since the late thirties. My wife and I lived there for a year and a half when a group of houses was built very quickly in the vacant block across the street from my house. The government at some level moved in people from Tampa who were all drug dealers to the new crappy subsidized housing. The neighborhood went to hell fast. My black neighbors sold out and left as fast as they could.My wife and I went to Michigan and sold the house.

I have been back in recent years to look at the old neighborhood. The subsidized houses are gone- I am sure they fell apart pretty fasti and there is a store there and a bicycle shop. The whole neighborhood is now dominated by a huge Australian pine I had planted in the back yard that is visible from many blocks away. The houses are all rental now and the neighborhood all black. The lawns are neat, though, and the houses painted.

33 posted on 10/09/2014 6:11:32 AM PDT by arthurus
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RE: facts and figures covering aspects of "racial profiling" pretty much proving it's all Obama-Holder Dept. of Just Us and Our People (the race grievance industry) bull shit.

Driving while black b.s. is all based upon a measily two percent? See Percent of stopped drivers, Police did not give reason for the stop below.

Police Behavior during Traffic and Street Stops, 2011

Traffic stops

"Regardless of the reason for the traffic stop, black (67%) and Hispanic (74%) drivers were less likely than white drivers (84%) to believe the reason for the stop was legitimate.

"In 2011, a greater percentage of white drivers (84%) than Hispanic (74%) or black drivers (67%) who were stopped by police believed they were pulled over for a legitimate reason (table 2). Across all races and Hispanic origin, drivers stopped for speeding were among the most likely to perceive that the reason for the traffic stop was legitimate (90% of white, 83% of Hispanic, and 73% of black drivers). In general, drivers who were pulled over and not given a reason for the traffic stop were the least likely to think the traffic stop was legitimate. For example, 51% of white drivers who were stopped without the police giving a reason believed the stop was legitimate, whereas 84% who were given a reason believed that the stop was legitimate.

"Among other reasons for traffic stops that were associated with comparatively lower perceptions that the stop was legitimate, less than 70% of white (69%), black (69%), and Hispanic (64%) drivers who were pulled over for a stop light or stop sign violation believed the police had a legitimate reason for stopping them. Less than 70% of black drivers stopped due to a vehicle defect (69%), a seatbelt or cell phone violation (64%), or an illegal turn or lane change violation (65%) thought the police had a legitimate reason for stopping them."

Table 2 Perception that reason for traffic stop was legitimate among drivers age 16 or older, by race or Hispanic origin of driver and reason for stop, 2011
Percent of stopped drivers
Reason for traffic stop
All

White a
Black/African
American a

Hispanic/Latino

Other a,b
Any reasons 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
Police gave reason for the stop
Speeding 46.5 50.1 37.7 39.2 37.3
Vehicle defect 14.1 12.7 19.0 16.5 14.6
Record check 9.7 9.0 14.0 9.7 9.9
Roadside sobriety check 1.3 1.6 0.4 ! 1.0 ! 1.0 !
Seatbelt or cell phone violation 6.6 6.6 6.5 6.5 7.4
Illegal turn or lane change 7.0 6.6 7.0 7.1 10.8
Stop sign/light violation 6.7 6.1 5.5 9.9 9.4
Other reasonc 5.1 4.7 5.3 6.8 5.2
Police did not give reason for the stop 3.1 2.6 4.7 3.3 4.2 !

Percent reporting reason
for stop was legitimate d
Reason for traffic stop
All

White a
Black/African
American a

Hispanic/Latino

Other a,b
Any reasons 80% 83.6% 67.5% 73.6% 78.4%
Police gave reason for the stop
Speeding 87.1 89.6 72.8 83.1 87.3
Vehicle defect 81.2 86.4 69.0 74.4 79.3
Record check 80.0 80.9 83.0 70.7 81.2
Roadside sobriety check 79.4 86.0 -- ! 56.6 ! 68.1 !
Seatbelt or cell phone violation 79.7 84.0 63.8 77.3 69.0 !
Illegal turn or lane change 73.0 75.4 65.0 72.6 67.1
Stop sign/light violation 68.4 68.8 69.2 63.6 74.6
Other reason c 59.1 65.2 21.6 ! 61.9 67.8 !
Police did not give reason for the stop 44.6 51.0 36.6 ! 18.3 ! 59.8 !

Note: Based on persons for whom the most recent contact with police was as a driver in a traffic stop. See appendix table 4 for standard errors.

! Interpret with caution. Estimate based on 10 or fewer cases or the coefficient of variation is greater than 50%. -- Less than 0.05%.


34 posted on 10/09/2014 6:12:33 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

“Hours after the shooting, a crowd gathered at the scene in Shaw, 11 miles (18km) south of Ferguson.”

Protestors from Ferguson migrated over to Shaw.

It helped that both towns were on the bus line.


35 posted on 10/09/2014 6:19:28 AM PDT by moovova
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To: moovova

Are those DOJ “protest marshalls” still in the area, advising and organizing the protestors?


36 posted on 10/09/2014 6:21:03 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: FreeAtlanta

In one of my all time favorite shows, Gunsmoke, James Arness always shoots second in the opening street gunfight. But, the bad guy always goes down.

This is one reason why the Marines have always been the most effective ground troops we have as they are taught to AIM and then shoot. Not, shoot and Not AIM.

“Mr Dillon” always hit what he was shooting at!!!


37 posted on 10/09/2014 6:27:07 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Those darn American Indian/Alaska Natives have it made!


38 posted on 10/09/2014 6:34:38 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: smokingfrog

Just waiting for the media and liberals and Sharpton/Jackson to make this a racial cause celebre.

It seems we are at a point at which any altercation between white and black, the white person is somehow to blame. White law enforcement officers are apparently not allowed to use appropriate force against a black offender, even if the black offender is shooting, using deadly force against the officer.

Question — would this be national news if the cop were white and the perpetrator were white?

What if the perpetrator and policeman were both black?

What if the cop were black and the perpetrator were white?


39 posted on 10/09/2014 6:41:29 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: ScottinVA
Problem is... they destroy their own cities, then move on to less-destroyed ground and destroy that as well.

.....and they don't want to work at the kind of jobs that pay good money to fix it back up. Destroy the Destroyers!

40 posted on 10/09/2014 6:41:32 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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