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5 Reasons to Ignore Negative Polling on Sen. Pat Roberts
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10/2/14 | JOHN FEEHERY

Posted on 10/02/2014 11:09:13 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

A new USA Today/Suffolk University poll has his challenger, Greg Orman, beating him by five points, 46% to 41%.

Here are five reasons that won’t happen:

....Obama is widely disliked in Kansas. His approval rating is 33%...

....Roberts is a known quantity.

...3. Nobody has ever heard of Greg Orman. (He would have a better chance of competing if his last name started with an “N.”)

4. Democrats can’t really help Mr. Orman....

...5. The tea party has nowhere else to go. Tea partyers don’t want to be blamed for losing the Senate to Harry Reid....

...Polls are a snapshot in time. Things don’t look good right now for the incumbent senator. But if I were a betting man, I would bet on Pat Roberts.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: 2014; vote
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To: DoodleDawg

If Orman wins, KS will be stuck for six long years with a US Senator who votes like the two I’ve been stuck with for the last twenty years, Boxer and Feinstein.

I would take Pat Roberts ANY DAY OF THE WEEK over Boxer and Feinstein.

Anyone care to make a trade?


41 posted on 10/03/2014 12:15:11 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
If Orman wins, KS will be stuck for six long years with a US Senator who votes like the two I’ve been stuck with for the last twenty years, Boxer and Feinstein.

And with a Roberts win the GOP establishment proves once again that they can ignore and belittle the Tea Party at will. So there is no use in trying to oppose or change them. The Tea Party will fade away. And we'll be stuck with an endless stream of McCains and McConnells and Cochrans and Roberts and Grahams and Alexanders now and in the future, because those are the types the establishment will prefer.

42 posted on 10/03/2014 12:40:07 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
... GOP establishment proves once again that they can ignore and belittle the Tea Party at will

That is only if you believe that Wolfe was a true grass-roots guy that many in the Tea Party convinced to run under their banner. I never saw any evidence of that.

Wolfe was a conservative guy with an interest in getting into politics, who from what I say took up the mantle of the Tea Party and self-proclaimed himself "the Tea Party" candidate.

What happened next was even worse. He ran a campaign that denigrated a good conservative old-timer with name calling and all sorts of Democrat tactics and did very little to espouse and run on the sensible conservative issues that caused Tea Party activists to rise up and organize in the first place.

I'm not saying the guy was a fraud, because we had FR posters that knew him. But he didn't run a conservative campaign promoting conservative issues -- he ran as a mud slinging Democrat.

Now, I don't live in Kansas but I did for twenty-five years. Kansas didn't lose much when Wolfe lost.

43 posted on 10/03/2014 12:50:30 PM PDT by KC Burke (Gowdy for Supreme Court)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Now that the money floodgates are opening, Orman is in a tight spot. In order to compete with Roberts, he’ll need to draw on traditional Democrats sources of funds, which totally belies his fake “independent” status.

That said, Robert’s polling at this point is near fatal for an incumbent.


44 posted on 10/03/2014 12:53:15 PM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: DoodleDawg

If Roberts wins, KS will at least have a US senator with a long track record of opposing and voting against all BHO’s policies and SCOTUS appointments.

If Orman gets elected Reid and BHO get another rubber stamp-—coming from a very conservative state.

Do you actually think Orman would be a better senator than Roberts?


45 posted on 10/03/2014 12:56:29 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: KC Burke
That is only if you believe that Wolfe was a true grass-roots guy that many in the Tea Party convinced to run under their banner. I never saw any evidence of that.

I believe he represented the Tea Party far more than Roberts did. If he hadn't then Roberts wouldn't be scrambling trying to win back their support.

What happened next was even worse. He ran a campaign that denigrated a good conservative old-timer with name calling and all sorts of Democrat tactics and did very little to espouse and run on the sensible conservative issues that caused Tea Party activists to rise up and organize in the first place.

What Roberts did to Wolf is exactly what you just complained about: denegrating a man with name calling and all sorts of Democrat tactics. And in not a single ad that I'm aware of, and I live in the KC media market, did Roberts say what he stood for. It was all personal attacks on Wolf. So if that's the kind of tactics you're opposed to then you should be directing you ire towards Roberts as well.

But he didn't run a conservative campaign promoting conservative issues -- he ran as a mud slinging Democrat.

Roberts didn't either. And he still isn't. Now, I don't live in Kansas but I did for twenty-five years. Kansas didn't lose much when Wolfe lost.

Roberts is, as I've said time and again, the personification of everything that is wrong with the GOP establishment and everything that disgusts people about politicians. He has lost all touch and whatever interest he ever had in his constituency. He has an approval rating in that state that is lower than Obama's. He believes his Senate seat is his by divine right. If we do not begin to root out these dinosaurs now then when? If we do not begin to remake the GOP now then when? If we want something other than an endless progression of McCains and McConnells and Grahams and Cochrans then it's time for conservatives to send a message. Otherwise it will never change. And if the time for that message is not now then when?

46 posted on 10/03/2014 1:03:09 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Do you actually think Orman would be a better senator than Roberts?

I live in Missouri and this is in all respects the same kind of choice I was faced with in 2014. I could hold my nose and vote for a moron. I could abandon my principles and vote for the Democrat. Or I could vote for neither. I chose door number three, and if I lived in Kansas I'd be doing the same thing.

47 posted on 10/03/2014 1:10:38 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Ted Cruz is coming this month to endorse Roberts.

I’m not so sure liberal Orman can garner a majority of rat votes because he said he will caucus with the Republicans if they win the majority, which is likely.

I think Roberts will win.


48 posted on 10/03/2014 1:12:50 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Pat Roberts is not the enemy. Wolf ran a lousy campaign and got beat fair and square. Roberts has a very conservative voting record. He’s been there long enough to have forgotten why he went, so he’s probably a reliable gop-e vote, but he used to be a real conservative.

Maybe he’ll want to rethink his nation and the direction it’s going and get back to his roots.


49 posted on 10/03/2014 1:14:40 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: DoodleDawg

Not voting or voting third party=a vote for the Dems.


50 posted on 10/03/2014 1:19:31 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: 1035rep
I’m not so sure liberal Orman can garner a majority of rat votes because he said he will caucus with the Republicans if they win the majority, which is likely.

Who else are they going to vote for if not Orman? He'll get the Democrats.

Turnout could very well be high. Democrats will see it as a chance to knock off Roberts, who they hate. Independents might be drawn to the polls out of the novelty of the situation - how often does an independent have a chance to win? Polls seem to show them being split with Orman a slight favorite. Moderate Republicans, and there are a boatload in Johnson County, may split between Orman and Roberts as well. The deciding factor may be the Wolf supporters. And right now they may just stay home.

51 posted on 10/03/2014 1:25:24 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

“I believe he represented the Tea Party far more than Roberts did. If he hadn’t then Roberts wouldn’t be scrambling trying to win back their support.”

National Tea Party endorsements have poured in for Roberts, among them pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson and talk radio host Laura Ingraham.

Expected to roll through Kansas and endorse Roberts this month are Republican Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas and Rand Paul of Kentucky, as well as House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis.

http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp://washingtonexaminer.com/sources-wolf-to-endorse-brownback/article/2554245


52 posted on 10/03/2014 1:26:09 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Not voting or voting third party=a vote for the Dems.

You are entitled to your opinion.

53 posted on 10/03/2014 1:26:22 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

“The deciding factor may be the Wolf supporters.”

Wolf has endorsed Brownback and chances are he will do the right thing and endorse Roberts.


54 posted on 10/03/2014 1:29:18 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: 1035rep

Ted Cruz is coming this month to endorse Roberts.


GREAT NEWS. Ted Cruz understands the imperative of retaking the Senate.

Now, all the ‘conservatives’ here who don’t need no stinkin Senate will have to reconcile their ‘support’ of Cruz with their concurrent kill-em-all-and-let-Steve-Schmidt-sort-’em-out mentality.


55 posted on 10/03/2014 9:14:56 PM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: DoodleDawg

You do realize that candidates tend to attack each other during primaries, right? It’s called a campaign. You use any little bit of info on them. Roberts is still tons better.


56 posted on 10/04/2014 9:49:40 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: kevkrom

Orman will win. It’s awful, but it’s happening.


57 posted on 10/04/2014 9:50:20 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

The problem is, in 2016, us keeping the Senate is a virtual impossibility. We have too many seats in play. It’s just not going to happen. If we win it this year, WE WILL LOSE it in 2016. Not even a doubt.


58 posted on 10/04/2014 9:51:54 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: DoodleDawg
I want a Senate where Ted Cruz is the norm and not the oddity.

Somehow I don't think so.

59 posted on 10/04/2014 9:57:52 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Starstruck
Somehow I don't think so.

You think I want a Senate full of McConnells and McCains and Grahams and Cochrans like you do?

60 posted on 10/05/2014 4:29:39 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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