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GOP cautions that Senate control would have limits
Associated Press ^ | Sep 28, 2014 1:33 PM EDT | Charles Babington

Posted on 09/28/2014 1:45:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai

How much difference will it make if Republicans win the Senate majority on Nov. 4, joining the GOP-run House against a Democratic White House?

Congress’ persistent gridlock is due largely, but not entirely, to the current power split in the two chambers. But even if Republicans add Senate control to their safe House majority, big legislative roadblocks will remain.

President Barack Obama still can veto legislation.

Should Democrats lose six or more Senate seats, ceding the majority, they can use the power of the filibuster to thwart dozens of GOP initiatives. Republicans have employed this tactic from the minority side. …

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KEYWORDS: gopestablishment; propaganda; rinos; senate; uniparty; votersupression
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To: Olog-hai
GOP rolling over already...


41 posted on 09/28/2014 2:03:05 PM PDT by moovova
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To: cableguymn

Just what makes you think they won’t stop leftist appointments?


42 posted on 09/28/2014 2:03:26 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

History..


43 posted on 09/28/2014 2:05:01 PM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: Olog-hai

Oh, no no no no.. Filibuster is there to empower liberals. That a couple strange conservatives dared use that power was not acceptable, therefore it was taken from them, with the clear understanding that once the liberals no longer have the majority (HAHAHAHAH) that the power would of course be restored, as working together across party lines is something the senate always does. Unless it is for a conservative issue, then the conservatives are just obstructionists.

What’s yours is mine, and what’s mine is mine.


44 posted on 09/28/2014 2:05:25 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: cableguymn
Ok GOPe supporters, those who tell me by not voting GOPe this year is a vote for obama.. Tell me again how the stupid party is any better than the rat party..


45 posted on 09/28/2014 2:05:45 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Olog-hai

If I remember correctly Reid only changed the filibuster rules to effect presidential nominees, not legislation, which is all the Congress can bring to the presidents desk. McConnell has stated they will change the rules back to the former rules anyway.


46 posted on 09/28/2014 2:06:09 PM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: Olog-hai
Sorry . . . the “power of the filibuster” was wiped out by Dingy Harry.

The Republicans should keep this in place, and refer to it as the "Harry Reid Rule" whenever the Democrats object to it.

47 posted on 09/28/2014 2:06:24 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Olog-hai
control would have limits, Olog-hai wrote: Sorry . . . the “power of the filibuster” was wiped out by Dingy Harry.

It was called the "nuclear option" for a reason. If the Republicans try to un-ring that bell now, they will demonstrate exactly my point in my rant below, with which I assume many Freepers are now familiar, given how often I post it.

If the Republicans do win the Senate, they should keep the Democrats filibusterless while the Republicans try to use that advantage to undo, or prevent, as much of Obama's damage, or planned further damage, as possible.

Then, MAYBE in the fall of 2015, the Republicans might agree to restore the filibuster in exchange for a Democrat concession, such as agreeing to vote to remove Obama after the House votes to impeach him.

(Obviously the Senate majority leader would have to have an agreement in place with the House Speaker to have an impeachment vote.)

But no . . . Mitch McConnell will give the Democrats back their filibuster power early in the first session, in order to be "fair" and "reach across the aisle."

And now, without further ado, here is my increasingly well-known but still constructive rant about why we should ALL stop voting for RINOs:

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No more voting for RINOs ever, under any circumstances. Period.

In the past I voted for McCain, and Romney nationally, and for Scott Brown in Massachusetts. But I guess it depends on your belief in how far gone this nation is, and what it will take to restore it, assuming that is even possible at this point.

Personally, I now believe that the only way to save America at this point (assuming such a thing is still possible) is to put conservatives in political offices and enact an agenda based on free markets, limited government and the rule of law. As long as we have a Republican party that actively opposes those ends (and we do, obviously), then I believe our only (slim) hope is drastic action.

As long as the Republican Party establishment believes that it can continue to survive by being Democrat-lite, and that it can continue to maintain power while actively fighting against the core principles of liberty, free markets and Constitutional law, it will never make the necessary change of direction.

Only when the Republican party understands that it must change or die can we hope to turn this country around. Our too-long-serving entrenched establishment politicians can still enjoy their comfy lifestyles, their wealth, power and prestige as members of a minority party. So why should they bother to change direction?

Surely a John Boehner (or an Eric Cantor -- had he not been defeated -- or a Mitch McConnell) would be just as happy to be minority leaders if the election cycle didn't go their way. Yes, they would prefer to be majority leaders, but what good would it do them if a conservative Republican Party won the majority and then threw them out of their cushy positions and all those perks, replacing them with real conservatives?

Ask yourself -- which do you think Mitch McConnell would prefer -- a majority Republican party in which he was stripped of his position by a conservative majority, or a minority Republican party in which he could remain Senate minority leader because the majority of Republican senators were RINOs?

You may argue that we have no time to wait for the Republicans to realize that their only choice is to change or die as a viable party. But if we don't have time for that, then what makes you think we have time to wait for the RINOs and the GOP-e to pursue a "moderately marginal" course of action designed only to maintain their personal fiefdoms at the expense of a free America operating under the rule of Constitutional law?

The GOP had majority power in the House and Senate, and occupied the White House, 10 years ago. What did all that power do to move the agenda of liberty forward? Answer: nothing.

A GOP that cannot even sell liberty, limited governments and free markets to the American people is worse than useless. It is a party of tyranny enablers, and I will have none of it.

Unbelievably, today we once again face the stark choice between liberty and death.

Once again, these are the times that try men's souls. Conservatives need to be waging aggressive war against the totalitarian leftist tyrants on all fronts -- in the branches of government at the federal and state level, in academia, in the media, through public demonstrations, and in the voting booth.

Many argue that we must continue to vote for "the most electable conservative," which means "vote for the RINO if no conservative is running." But I respectfully disagree with that choice. I am done enabling.

If we really are to lose the greatest country in the history of the world, then let's at least be fighting for it when it goes down.

And who knows, maybe -- just maybe, if we show sufficient resolve and conviction -- divine Providence will once again provide the support that gave our founders their unlikely victory in 1776, and grant us once again the "new birth of freedom" that Lincoln called for a century later.

If you reward bad behavior, you get more of it. The RINOs have managed to own the Republican party because they know that conservatives have nowhere else to go.

To continue voting for RINOs is to play right into that strategy. The RINOs have become so certain of your vote that they actually believe they can continue to stay in power by declaring outright war on the conservative base.

And when they do that, they are actually declaring war on core American principles -- war on liberty, war on free market economics, and even war on the Constitution.

The RINO Republicans cannot even make an appeal to the traditional American love of those principles, because they have lost the credibility and historical awareness to articulate them, let alone promote them.

Yes, having Harry Reid continue as majority leader is a horrific scenario. But having RINO Republicans win that office is only a marginally better short-term outcome.

And in some ways it is even worse, because as the RINOs “reach across the aisle" to promote marginally modified Democrat policies, they give the Democrats cover from the well-deserved blame that they have unleashed on our country for the last five years.

America is out of time now. We cannot continue on the current path. And as things continue to deteriorate, who do you think the voters will blame if the Republicans are in power when the 2016 elections come around?

You think Mitch McConnell's senate will repeal Obamacare? You think it will take the right position on immigration? You think a Republican Senate will vote against Obama’s left wing Supreme Court nominations?

America needs clear, passionate and articulate voices to advocate and defend our founding principles, to secure our borders, to preserve our nation, and to take legislative and administrative steps to turn this country around, assuming it still can be turned around.

Majority leader Mitch McConnell will NEVER provide that voice or leadership. He is not the guy to turn things around for our formerly blessed nation.

But in 2016 a newly terrified Republican party will be forced to court instead of alienate the conservative base, and come 2017 will be in a position to put the party and our nation on the proper path. Such a duly chastised party has a real chance of nominating a Ted Cruz, instead of a Mitt Romney who, according to last night's panel on Fox News, is at this point the likely Republican presidential nominee.

So in November, for those whose only choice in the mid-terms is between a RINO and a Democrat, I urge them to stay home on election day, or vote third-party -- anything to prove the RINOs wrong in thinking that they can stay in power by literally declaring war on conservatism.

Think about it.

48 posted on 09/28/2014 2:06:57 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Whatever Happened to the Contract with America?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2035771/posts

The Contract with America: Implementing New Ideas in the U.S.
By Jeffrey B. Gayner
http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/the-contract-with-america-implementing-new-ideas-in-the-us


49 posted on 09/28/2014 2:08:52 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

GOP-E. They’re the ones who are running things.


50 posted on 09/28/2014 2:10:04 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: molson209

This is what the AP wants people like you to believe so you will stay home on election day.


51 posted on 09/28/2014 2:11:35 PM PDT by Perdogg (I'm on a no Carb diet- NO Christie Ayotte Romney or Bush)
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To: EricT.
They didn’t do anything of lasting value back then, either.

Well they got us to an $8 TRILLION debt and they gave us Chief Justice Roberts who in turn affirmed OBAMACARE. Yup that is the stupid party alright.



Ever hear a Republican official make comments like this?
52 posted on 09/28/2014 2:11:38 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Olog-hai

Filibuster? Is Babington stuck in 2007?


53 posted on 09/28/2014 2:11:53 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: cableguymn

Well I’m willing to take a chance on history and not have a RAT controlled Senate led by Dingy Harry.


54 posted on 09/28/2014 2:11:56 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: cableguymn

The AP wants you to believe this. More propaganda.


55 posted on 09/28/2014 2:12:32 PM PDT by Perdogg (I'm on a no Carb diet- NO Christie Ayotte Romney or Bush)
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To: Lurker
McConnell must win his race before he can restore or destroy anything.
56 posted on 09/28/2014 2:12:47 PM PDT by Faith-Hope
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To: Olog-hai

They’re already making excuses.


57 posted on 09/28/2014 2:21:16 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Viennacon
GOP to the base: “we’re going to fold like lawn chairs”

Mitch McConnell And Republican Elites Declare War On Conservatives

They can count me out - I was supporting McDaniels with money - NO MORE after seeing what they GOP-e did down there in Mississippi.

Chris McDaniel says conservatives in Mississippi are "enraged" over the U.S. Senate primary and likely to take it out on incumbent Republican state officeholders in next year's elections.
58 posted on 09/28/2014 2:22:09 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Olog-hai

Well, they ARE correct.

Constitutional limits are placed on all branches of government.

Nevertheless, the power WOULD be great. They need to use it, and handcuff the communist.


59 posted on 09/28/2014 2:23:00 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: cableguymn
Your tagline should read “scared purist alert who constantly moans and groans and complains nonstop writing the same old tired musings over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over”.
60 posted on 09/28/2014 2:23:33 PM PDT by Dave W
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