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School tells Missouri boy his 9/11 souvenir violates school weapons policy
Fox News | Sep 19, 2014

Posted on 09/22/2014 1:56:59 PM PDT by KeyLargo

Education School tells Missouri boy his 9/11 souvenir violates school weapons policy

A souvenir shell casing handed out by veterans at a 9/11 ceremony landed a seven-year-old Missouri boy in hot water when he took the keepsake to school.

Sherry Falke said her son, Zane, forgot he had the souvenir in his pocket when he showed up for class on Tuesday, Fox4KC.com reported. The boy was given the souvenir at a Sept. 11 memorial ceremony in Carrollton, Mo.

"He felt it in his pocket, and he took it out and was showing some of his friends at school," Falke told the station.

"The principal proceeded to reprimand him as though he were bringing live ammunition to school," she said. "I understand that's in the policy, in the handbook, that they can’t bring guns to school. I fully support that, but it's an empty blank casing."

Falke said her son's teacher seized the shell casing and took him to the principal’s office. She claims they Zane he could be suspended from school for 10 days, but instead gave him a silent lunch where he sat by himself and missed two recesses.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: banglist; boy; childabuse; education; guns; homeschool; military; missouri; school; teachers; veterans
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To: KeyLargo

The poor kid. This was needlessly cruel.


81 posted on 09/22/2014 3:30:24 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: lacrew

Well said, but don’t forget that eventually cooler heads prevailed and the kid received a lighter sentence, once the situation was understood. But how the school staff is trained to respond to a stiuation like this, as it unfolds, is according to written school policy.

Policy is policy, it’s much stricter now than in the Davey Crockett era everybody claims to have grown up in, and they did the right thing in enforcing it.


82 posted on 09/22/2014 3:34:07 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: KeyLargo
When I was a kid, I took my father's 6.5 Arisaka -- a trophy of his time in the Pacific -- along with a Japanese officer's ceremonial saber to school for Show and Tell.

Times have changed a bit.

83 posted on 09/22/2014 3:34:55 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Klemper

I haven’t had Spam in a long time...but I remember a ‘key’ that you had to turn around five thousand times.

They have a pull ring now?


84 posted on 09/22/2014 3:35:09 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: Steve_Seattle

“And we (some of us) are exercising ours in thinking your opinion is idiotic.”

Imagine how little that would have meant to somebody like George Washington, John Adams, or Patrick Henry.


85 posted on 09/22/2014 3:36:15 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: RaveOn

You are being ridiculous. A spent shell casing is harmless.


86 posted on 09/22/2014 3:37:12 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: RaveOn
It is a knife, and it is dangerous in a child’s hands.

Are you for real?

87 posted on 09/22/2014 3:38:32 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: dinodino

Can you prove the teacher who took it away knew it was harmless?


88 posted on 09/22/2014 3:39:20 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: RaveOn

Not to be hyper-technical, but nobody saw a bullet anywhere in this episode.

I bet the teacher knows which insects sting and might hurt the kids, and probably knows that if a kid eats paste, its ok - while drinking draino is an emergency.

Why wouldn’t we expect a teacher to have similar rudimentary knowledge about what type of brass colored metal is bad for you? You really can’t use the teacher’s ignorance of what a bullet looks like as an excuse for their over-reaction.


89 posted on 09/22/2014 3:39:26 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: RaveOn

So, instead of just confiscating the item and confirming whether or not it presents any danger, and then upon finding it’s no danger, return it to the boy, they initiate a “zero tolerance” response?

Sounds like a real rational administration there...but I bet they were out front and center patting themselves on the back. Telling the cameras how they did such a good job “protecting” their students...

A bunch of panty waisted, know nothing “educators” who can’t or won’t take the time to EDUCATE themselves on something.

Ignorance can be cured, stupid is forever...folks like this insist on remaining stupid because there’s no work or effort involved in remaining stupid but there is in dispelling ignorance.


90 posted on 09/22/2014 3:41:25 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: IronJack

“Are you for real?”

Were the 9/11 hijackers? They used the same basic technology.


91 posted on 09/22/2014 3:41:48 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: RaveOn

Of course an adult might gave been concerned, but when any SANE adult would have looked at the ‘bullet’ they would have seen that it was completely harmless and asked the child to tell the rest of the class about the ceremony where he got it, and would have given the child extra credit points.

Do you really think that casing is more dangerous than a pencil or a pen?

But we live in a world where PICTURES of guns are considered dangerous, so I guess panic is expected.

O2


92 posted on 09/22/2014 3:45:39 PM PDT by omegatoo (You know you'll get your money's worth...become a monthly donor!)
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To: lacrew

“Not to be hyper-technical, but nobody saw a bullet anywhere in this episode.”

The teacher saw a bullet, and her first responsibility is to protect the other students, so she took it. It doesn’t matter that it turned out to be an empty casing, which wasn’t established until later. She and the principal both followed rules meant to protect other students, and you guys all think she’s stupid for doing that.


93 posted on 09/22/2014 3:48:55 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: omegatoo

“But we live in a world where PICTURES of guns are considered dangerous, so I guess panic is expected.”

We also live in a world where crazy nuts shoot up schools and irresponsible parents let their kids carry all kinds of dangerous things to school. That’s where these “pantywaist” policies come from.

I’m not saying the shell casing was dangerous, but the policies exist for a reason.


94 posted on 09/22/2014 3:52:03 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: RaveOn

I assume the public schools are paying you well.


95 posted on 09/22/2014 3:54:00 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: RaveOn

She saw no such thing...she “saw” what she’s been conditioned to “see”...she reacted out of a misplaced fear of an inanimate object. She chose not to respond rationally, but rather robotically. Her ignorance and that of the school administration is what created this situation.

Currently, she and the rest of that school’s administration are willfully ignorant.

If they choose to remain ignorant, then yes, she and the rest are STUPID.

And they sure as hell have no place “teaching” in a school if they choose to remain stupid vs. educating themselves.


96 posted on 09/22/2014 3:54:48 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian

“So, instead of just confiscating the item and confirming whether or not it presents any danger, and then upon finding it’s no danger, return it to the boy, they initiate a “zero tolerance” response?”

Which is exactly how the school handled it, if you read the article. They realized it was harmless and gave the kid a minimal sentence of silent lunch. There was no zero-tolerance response and I would have been very critical if there was.


97 posted on 09/22/2014 3:55:57 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: SandRat

“...a P-38 GI Can Opener...”

Lord, I had almost forgotten about the “John Wayne”...


98 posted on 09/22/2014 3:58:26 PM PDT by JW1949
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To: RaveOn
...but the policies exist for a reason.

To satisfy the hyper-neurotic anti-gun agenda of NEA Progressives?

99 posted on 09/22/2014 3:58:32 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: RaveOn
No, I mistook it for a forum where I didn’t have to agree with the status quo and could exercise my 1st Amendment rights. My mistake.

Free Republic is a private forum and you and I are here at the pleasure of our host, Jim Robinson. This is not a public space.

PS — I own three guns and my grandfather was a veteran of both World Wars, sharpshooter in the first one, taught me to handle guns.

I'll be blunt: If you know how to handle firearms then you'd know not to be concerned about empty shell casings. I can only conclude that you know as much about firearms whatever you've heard on NBC News.

100 posted on 09/22/2014 3:59:01 PM PDT by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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