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Castro Valley Winery to Government: Crush Grapes, Not Vintners
Townhall.com ^ | September 21, 2014 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 09/21/2014 6:06:15 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/21/2014 6:06:15 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

All the State wants is control, taxes and your compliance. Period. At any cost. Your freedom? Does not matter, comrade. Welcome to the workers paradise. It will only get worse unless the productive rise up, seriously. Really.


2 posted on 09/21/2014 6:23:08 AM PDT by john drake (Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
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To: Kaslin

What prompted state scrutiny? Smyth suspects a “disgruntled person”

We are told we have the right to face our accuser but in reality we don’t. It’s always some “disgruntled (anonymous)person”. We should have a right to know who the complainant is.
A law to that effect would go a long way towards reducing the “nanny” State since government employees are not usually interested in pursuing front yard gardeners or people who put up American flags or maintain a cross on a mountaintop.


3 posted on 09/21/2014 6:25:34 AM PDT by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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To: Kaslin

Wouldn’t the same standard apply to hospital volunteers, working at for profit hospitals? After all, they are competing against other hospitals and taking jobs away from people who would do the work for pay.


4 posted on 09/21/2014 6:30:37 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.)
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To: Kaslin

Oh my!
The retirement project of my former employer is a winery and vineyard.
This will make his day!

‘A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have.’
Famous fake quote.


5 posted on 09/21/2014 6:32:02 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Lurker

That’s probably not a great example to hang our “no regulation” hats on:

Laettner detailed a series of violations in the six months before the killings that led regulators to temporarily close the factory because Alexander, who took over the business when his father died in 1994, was not cooking his sausage hot enough to meet federal standards for killing bacteria.

The regulatory problems came to a head when inspectors obtained evidence — UPS shipping labels — that showed that Alexander was shipping non- inspected meat across state lines in violation of previous orders to stop.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/OAKLAND-Sausage-king-goes-on-trial-for-murder-2764098.php


7 posted on 09/21/2014 7:13:23 AM PDT by jiggyboy
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Like I said. More of that sort of thing needs to start happening.


8 posted on 09/21/2014 7:18:39 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Kaslin

I can’t pick my own turnips?


9 posted on 09/21/2014 7:18:44 AM PDT by mom.mom
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To: Kaslin
Here's a radical idea: California could allow adults to make adult decisions, such as whether they want to be volunteers. If they don't want to, they don't have to.

First, California would need to elect lawmakers who would let them be adults.

Before I commiserate with Smyth, who did he vote for?

10 posted on 09/21/2014 7:22:53 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Kaslin; sasquatch; forester
This was potentially a very useful wake-up call to me. I have a property with a project at which people might wish to volunteer (habitat restoration). If I make them employees, as opposed to volunteers, my insurance will not cover their presence here and you cannot imagine the cost of risk with some of the terrain we have. I would have to charge them a fortune for the education they would be getting, which is considerable.

I guess I'll have to put some more thought into this.

11 posted on 09/21/2014 7:24:47 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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To: Kaslin
I grew up in Castro Valley. This doesn't surprise me one bit.

I've also been developing a passion for wine in the past year. When I volunteered to pick grapes a month ago, I was provided a nice lunch and a bottle of wine. It was a great educational experience, and it was a lot of fun.

BTW, Rachel Maddow graduated from the same HS. Fitting that they changed the mascot from a Spartan to a condom (Trojan). lol

12 posted on 09/21/2014 7:32:04 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: Drew68
Before I commiserate with Smyth, who did he vote for?

Great question.

13 posted on 09/21/2014 7:33:29 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: Drew68; Night Hides Not
Before I commiserate with Smyth, who did he vote for?

People still do that here? That's the logic of a six year old. Somebody else is going to have to explain your idiocy to you, I've done my part here on this fallacy.

14 posted on 09/21/2014 7:42:29 AM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: Carry_Okie

Our neighbor on the river has about 20 A. of chestnuts. He’s been informed that labor law, insurance and certification will assure the deer get the crop. Good thing as most of the surrounding forest is torched.
(we lost about 650 ft of pipe; Woody’s had a 5 A. burn down by the river but they pounded it. Didn’t appear to get up too high)


15 posted on 09/21/2014 7:43:01 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: jiggyboy

Son, you need to get out of Cali, you’ve been there too long.


16 posted on 09/21/2014 7:46:01 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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He’s been informed that labor law, insurance and certification will assure the deer get the crop.

Certification for what and by whom?

17 posted on 09/21/2014 7:46:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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"More of that sort of thing needs to happen"

But you also have to get the law makers as well. And with the Sacramento axis, that's something I would like to see.

18 posted on 09/21/2014 7:50:12 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Graybeard58

The competition argument is ridiculous - the other wineries could also use volunteers - just like all hospitals do.


19 posted on 09/21/2014 8:10:39 AM PDT by aquila48
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People still do that here? That's the logic of a six year old. Somebody else is going to have to explain your idiocy to you, I've done my part here on this fallacy.

Why? It's a legitimate question. California may be essentially a single-party state, but it is still a democracy. Instead of crying about burdensome regulations, maybe they should work on changing them.

20 posted on 09/21/2014 8:13:03 AM PDT by Drew68
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