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Will Tea Party, GOP establishment be 'mending fences' to win Senate in November?
Fox News ^ | September 20, 2014

Posted on 09/20/2014 8:02:38 PM PDT by Din Maker

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To: GeronL
How about we try Article V first?


41 posted on 09/20/2014 8:42:43 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
There's not but one way to end this vicious cycle.
And that's to go through the "fiery trail" .
WE MUST CLEAN HOUSE!
The "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" ARE WORSE than the 'RATs !
42 posted on 09/20/2014 8:43:20 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: nathanbedford

And watch as state after state guts the Bill of Rights and Constitution?


43 posted on 09/20/2014 8:43:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

The GOPe will preserve the welfare state, Obamacare etc. and try to find ways to fund it, manage it with European style measures (Greece etc.).

They will trim benefits around the edges and raise our taxes.

REPUBLICANS WILL RAISE TAXES IF GIVEN POWER, LIKELY WITH A NEW NATIONAL SALES TAX LIKE CANDADIANS GOT IN THE 1980’S WHEN THEIR GOVERNMENT COSTS SKYROCKETED AFTER NATIONAL HEALTHCARE WAS BROUGHT IN.

The Paul Ryan-Patty Murray budget plan agreed to in the current session of Congress cut military pensions, extended unemployment and created new taxes in the form of airline fees.


44 posted on 09/20/2014 8:46:46 PM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: Nextrush

Of course “budget plans” aren’t worth squat because they are never binding and cannot be binding on the next session and next Congress. Not that their plan wasn’t crap anyway, but it will be worse than their plan asked for.


45 posted on 09/20/2014 8:48:50 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
Why would you want blood in the streets before trying Article V when the arithmetic against what you fear is simply so overwhelming:

There are 99 houses in 50 state legislatures. Any leftist amendment would require only 13 of these legislative bodies from 99 to defeat ratification. In other words, three quarters of the state legislatures must ratify or 38 states. If 13 legislatures fail to ratify the amendment is defeated. Since ratification by legislatures requires both houses to consent, only 13/99 are required. That is very close to 13%.

If the Congress of the United States elects to have the ratification procedures conducted by conventions rather than legislatures, the method of selecting the delegates to those conventions would be chosen by the legislatures. If only 13 legislative bodies out of 99 object to the method chosen by the other body because it is considered to favor a leftist amendment, there is no ratification forthcoming from that state.

By either procedure the odds of a liberal amendment getting past so many conservative legislative bodies in so many states is both arithmetically and practically remote.

Finally, this is only the last line of defense, there are innumerable steps along the way which make a "runaway convention" virtually impossible and render the need for the states to fail to ratify very likely superfluous.


46 posted on 09/20/2014 8:51:01 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Din Maker

Read this I posted two weeks ago from Peter Hitchens about the UK situation.

I rewrote it to fit the US situation and said:

“Any thinking person has been able to see for years that the Republican Party hates conservatives. It is a roadblock, championing the elites against the people”.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3201386/posts?page=25


47 posted on 09/20/2014 8:51:11 PM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: GeronL

So are all the GOP supporter that demand we bend over.


48 posted on 09/20/2014 8:51:21 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: oldbrowser
There is no benefit in spite.

He who does not like revenge has never tasted it.

At this point the conservative wing should negotiate a settlement with the GOPe.

Are you freakin' kidding me? After what those bastards pulled in Mississippi, you expect them to negotiate in good faith? PULEEEEEEEEZE!
49 posted on 09/20/2014 8:51:50 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, thThe National at's the only thing that has kept) me from going insane.)
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To: Yosemitest

I agree. GOPes are worse. Bring it crashing down now. If they are not constitutionalists then to hell with them. Bring it crashing down NOW while we still have guns and the majority of the Army and Marine Corp enlisted.


50 posted on 09/20/2014 8:52:22 PM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: GeronL

you get an “F” in enemy identification


51 posted on 09/20/2014 8:52:28 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Exactly. We went Soviet and everyone still pretends that we have a Republic with a fair and honest democratic election system.

We’re IDIOTS to not see the evidence that the electoral process is as corrupted and manipulated as the IRS, the EPA and the Just-Us department.

It’s single Party with a dictatorship for the Executive. The GOP serves as the illusion of choice and opposition when the GOP works to deceive and stymie Concervatives to the benefit of the MarxoFascists who now actually rule the country.

We saw our last honest national election in 2008. It’s been a total Soviet-esque system since then. Cook County went national.


52 posted on 09/20/2014 8:53:25 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: nathanbedford

Name me one state that has a conservative legislative body? That has demilitarized the cops, cut taxes and spending to the bone, gut lefty social programs, outlawed abortion and all that??

There is not one state that is truly socially or fiscally conservative in this country, and we all know it.


53 posted on 09/20/2014 8:53:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Din Maker

Is there any Mississippi FReepers out there who are going to rally around Thud Cockroach?


54 posted on 09/20/2014 8:53:50 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: JohnBrowdie

The Republicans kicking me in the face with their boots is not my enemy?

lol


55 posted on 09/20/2014 8:54:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

““budget plans” aren’t worth squat because they are never binding and cannot be binding on the next session “

Heck, wasn’t the ‘sequester’ overrode by the same congress that passed it? And, officially, that override will be paid for by... a future congress!
it is but to laugh.


56 posted on 09/20/2014 8:56:25 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: GeronL

harry reid stealing your health care is the enemy.


57 posted on 09/20/2014 8:56:50 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

“ObamaCare is the law of the land, and we will fund it” - John Boehner


58 posted on 09/20/2014 8:57:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
Article V does not ask state legislators to break their own Rice bowls but to curb federal spending.

Do you think we cannot find even 13 State Houses among 99?

So far your alternative is blood in the streets. We can do better. If we cannot do better we can at least tell our children that we tried.


59 posted on 09/20/2014 8:57:54 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: mrsmith

congress doesn’t pay for anything


60 posted on 09/20/2014 8:58:10 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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