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Will Tea Party, GOP establishment be 'mending fences' to win Senate in November?
Fox News ^ | September 20, 2014

Posted on 09/20/2014 8:02:38 PM PDT by Din Maker

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To: INVAR
You are obviously ignorant, perhaps willfully so of what the Ruling Class just last week has done to make sure a grassroots takeover of the GOP will never happen.

Elections are littered with fringe groups. If you think starting up another one is a solution, good luck to you.

201 posted on 09/23/2014 8:31:04 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: antidisestablishment
We were the only dumb asses that voted again and again for the lying, miserable, conniving, amoral hacks that they ran despite all our misgivings and ultimately, our principles.

Unless we wrest the party back, there is no party.

I feel exactly as you do. The question is how do we get some honest representation?

202 posted on 09/23/2014 8:39:09 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: oldbrowser

By understanding the old saying that an honest politician is one who stays bought.

People keep referring to the GOPe/GOP leadership as Liberal. They aren’t, and saying that gives them undeserved credit for actually having an ideology.

In reality they’re just craven opportunists. Which is a MUCH better thing for Conservatives than if they were ideologues. Craven opportunists can be bought, ideologues not so much.

Where Conservative fail is in how we do a good job (occasionally) at making a lot of noise and in voting. What we need to focus on is changing the money game. Because money is what buys early, and continued support.

By that I don’t mean individual contributions. I mean standing up organizations that are designed to raise and then dole out money in return for defined and measurable actions by those who seek the money.

The Dems have a MASSIVE number of these organizations, and they’ve reached the point where they are tightly coupled with, and indistinguishable from, the Party itself.

We only have a few organizations along those lines, SCF and Heritage Action fall into that category but they seem focused on running primary challengers rather than compelling existing politicians to make commitments and hold them responsible for keeping them. The various Tea Party orgs never matured, like the whole slew of Dem “Netroots” orgs did, past the noisemaking/rallying stage.


203 posted on 09/23/2014 8:51:34 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: oldbrowser

Obviously the current party is no longer an option if you want to stop what is being done to the country.

There IS NO Conservative party in America any more, except for the fringe groups. Either you seig-heil with the MarxoFascist kapos, or you only vote for Conservatives, period.

But you are apparently nothing but a silly party hack without principles stuck in a Plantation mindset, so I do not expect you to understand the point we Conservatives are making here on this thread.


204 posted on 09/23/2014 9:51:27 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: oldbrowser

Revolt? Revolution? Assassination? Take over the national hq by force?

I really see no non-violent option. The entire upper party is corrupt. Most of us work for a living and can’t afford to spend our time protesting and we have families who need us.


205 posted on 09/23/2014 11:11:01 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (Islam delenda est)
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To: INVAR
I do not expect you to understand the point we Conservatives are making here on this thread.

I understand the point. Harry Reid agrees with you. If you are a conservative, God help us.

206 posted on 09/23/2014 12:23:53 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: antidisestablishment
I really see no non-violent option.

Ergo, the reason the government is so concerned with gun control, ammunition control, and reducing the ranks of the upper levels of the military.
It may be a coincidence, but it sure is convenient.

207 posted on 09/23/2014 12:30:03 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: oldbrowser
I understand the point. Harry Reid agrees with you. If you are a conservative, God help us.

You are the kind of 'conservative' who not only got us into this mess, but the kind of 'conservative' that perpetuates what we have seen for the last 20 years.

Reid, McConnell - not a damn difference between them, except that Reid did not publicly state that his party was at war with Conservatives and vowed to crush us wherever he found us to ensure we could never field another candidate in a general election.

Since voting for a liberal Leftist just because they have an 'R' after their name is the only principle you have, your brand of 'conservatism' is not worth spit.

You don't get it. You never will. All you see is R's and D's, having no clue they are all part and parcel of and serve the same beast. You are stuck on the plantation and are a simple slave at best.

208 posted on 09/23/2014 2:22:53 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR
You don't get it. You never will. All you see is R's and D's, having no clue they are all part and parcel of and serve the same beast. You are stuck on the plantation and are a simple slave at best.

How do you know what I see and what I don't see? I very much realize that the Corrupt politicians in Washington are more interested in protecting their own little enterprise than doing the people work. I just don't agree with you on which is the best way to break up the cabal.

As far as the plantation slave references, lose it, you sound like a democrat operative.

209 posted on 09/23/2014 2:33:28 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: oldbrowser
How do you know what I see and what I don't see?

By what you post. Unless what you post is all B.S. for your own amusement to observe our reaction.

I just don't agree with you on which is the best way to break up the cabal.

Of course not. You think continuing to vote for liberal Leftists with an 'R' after their name is better because that will somehow slow or stop where we have already arrived, because you erroneously think better 'our' power-mad-corrupt-Leftists than their power-mad-corrupt-Leftists.

You do not convey a Conservative mindset in your posts. You convey a Rovian Party-hack approach to maintaining the status quo.

As far as the plantation slave references, lose it, you sound like a democrat operative.

It perfectly describes everything you have posted on this subject. Because what you post is not a conservative course of action. What you have posted is more of the same exact thing of the last 6 years.

Which means you are enabling the Ruling Class oligarchy.

Democrat operative indeed.

210 posted on 09/23/2014 3:06:40 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Din Maker
OK trebb; apparently you live in MS. Does it look like there’s a chance that Thad Cochran can be defeated? I know the Dems are fired up and discretely wooing the McDaniel people. They have a conservative Democrat, Travis Childers, for their candidate (Pro-Life, Pro-Second Amendment and ANTI-Sex Marriage.) The Dems are raising a lot of out-of-State money for this race. If the Conservatives stay home, skip the Senate Race on the ballot or vote for the Dem...... Cochran could lose and Haley Barbour would not get to give this seat to one of his nephews in a year or two. WHAT SAY YE? Can Cochran be defeated?

I wish I had a definitive answer to that. I believe that he can be put down, but that it would entail having the "regular crowd" vote for Childers. We know a little about Childers, but do not know if he would be a "toe-the-line" Democrat when it came to further infringements on our Freedoms. There is no fire in anyone's belly for Cochran but many will be torn with the possibility that not voting for him may hurt chances to assume control of the Senate - that's my only concern and I don't think there's a real benefit for voting for Cochran despite that possibility.

211 posted on 09/26/2014 2:53:31 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb
We know a little about Childers, but do not know if he would be a "toe-the-line" Democrat when it came to further infringements on our Freedoms.

From what I gather, he seems to be cut from the same cloth as Joe Manchin from West VA. They both, might end up switching Parties to the GOP. That's the talk re: Manchin anyhow.
212 posted on 09/26/2014 8:20:39 AM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that's kept me from going insane.)
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To: trebb; All

There is no fire in anyone’s belly for Cochran but many will be torn with the possibility that not voting for him may hurt chances to assume control of the Senate....
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I understand, but hear me please: We are going to win more Senate seats than the six (6) needed; trust me. We can regain control of the Senate WITHOUT COCHRAN WINNING!!!


213 posted on 09/26/2014 8:23:33 AM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that's kept me from going insane.)
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To: Din Maker
From what I gather, he seems to be cut from the same cloth as Joe Manchin from West VA. They both, might end up switching Parties to the GOP. That's the talk re: Manchin anyhow.

I understand, but hear me please: We are going to win more Senate seats than the six (6) needed; trust me. We can regain control of the Senate WITHOUT COCHRAN WINNING!!!

Your keyboard to God's ears - I may yet vote for Childers - it goes against my usual philosophy but this is a case where there may be benefits by helping a Dem win. I believe that a vote for Cochran is a vote to submission to, and approval of the betrayal they committed to Mississippians.

214 posted on 09/26/2014 11:36:35 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

From a Ronald Reagan-style Conservative, all I have to say with regard to your Post #214:

YES! YOU GO BOY!!!


215 posted on 09/26/2014 8:26:25 PM PDT by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that's kept me from going insane.)
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