Posted on 09/19/2014 10:08:46 AM PDT by fwdude
Two men ignored those orders and paid for it with their lives. (God Bless them!) A lot of people got out because of them. The failure was at the top of the food chain.
I just find it hard to believe that male rape is a common occurrence in the US services.
And I would be surprised to find out it has increased significantly in the last 30 years.
But this article is long on emotion and short on data.
My memory of services is that while there were always homos in the military, they were not open about it.
And male rape was unheard of. Anyone who perpetrated it would be discovered, tried and imprisoned with certainty.
If not outright killed by his fellows.
Obama’s ,Ben Dover Plan ?
Sodomy at sea, ain’t fer me!
Thank you for your service, Marine, and thanks for bringing some common sense onto this thread.
I’m retired Army (2011) & all the mandatory sensitivity training ‘bout drove me crazy. Unfortunately the military has been forced into the values-imparting role that was once the purview of family, church, & school. Remember “Consideration of Others”?
But there still exists a military culture that values courage, loyalty to comrades & nation, and doing the right thing. The last line of the Code of Conduct says “I will trust in my God and the United States of America.”
The young soldiers I see at Fort Campbell (hell, the division CG is younger than me!) still represent America’s best. As does the Marine Corps!
Somehow I think both our beloved services will survive the Obama years intact. Any other outcome is unthinkable.
Pull your head out. The recent stats are verified. Even the Left is admitting that male rapes are skyrocketing. Stop living in denial.
Nothing would surprise me, now that we have an armed services that treats two perverted homos as being the same equivalent as a husband-and-wife. Sheer depravity. I can no longer view the military in the same light I once did.
The military will soon treat a males service member who has his (clears throat) whacked off as a “woman,” and will demand that you do as well.
The deniers on this thread are pathetic and delusional.
And when the men aren’t silencing themselves, the military is doing it for them by discharging victims for misdiagnosed personality disorders and letting their attackers continue to serve.
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this has happened to women for decades..
they get discharged immediately for being “unfit” “personality disorder” etc
the rapists go free...
especially if it is black male rapist/white woman victim..
the white woman gets punished for saying a black male raped her..
26,000 male victims for 2013..
I find it hard to believe that things are as bad as this article states, but I would anticipate that things have gotten worse to some degree.
I have heard about homosexual bosses being more oppressive imposing political correctness, like that senior NCO in the Army Band a while back. Like many have mentioned, there has always been some level of this going on (Marine Corps too, particularly renown for aggressive butch lesbians and some gay male porno movie actors).
Also, I wonder if this might be a factor in the increased suicide rate that has been an issue over a similar timeframe?
But it’s not really rape rape.
What's the source of that data?
I never saw or even heard of fags in the ranks when I was in the AF...
The numbers are staggering, and they tell another story - that it just seems obvious that some members of Congress are not ignorant of the reports and the situation and yet are just as criminally negligent FOR THEIR SILENCE as would be a non-participating third party who witnessed a rape and said nothing.
I served for twenty-two years. During that time I eventually learned not to go drinking with my “brothers.” I will never forget waking up on a bus and a “brother” had his hands down my pants. I should not have had so much to drink but this “brother” should not have done that. Then I had to serve next to him and attend meetings with him. Dont tell me that rape doesnt occur. I know other women who were pulled into gear lockers and attacked. They couldn’t report it because it would “derail” mission and they knew they would be blamed. I have so many other stories it would make you cry. These things didnt happen every day...but they did happen. To deny it is wrong.
Then you weren’t looking around hard. I was in the AF from 86 to 92. There were several instances that I saw.
Unfortunately, one has to suppose that an “I told you so” would be wasted on Obama.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/02/us/military-sex-assault-report.html
Up 50% from 2012 to 2013. Consider this, the Corps is hard Corps and homosexuality is still not acceptable in the ranks. I would venture to guess that although male on male rape may occur the percentage for the Corps would be low and the REPORTED rape rate would be miniscule.
Marines keep so much crud inside. The article does bring up the possibility that speaking out against an attacker could be what is raising the numbers and it is all heartbreaking. I get upset when anyone glorifies the “300” spartans. They were Greek pedophiles. No wonder sparta no longer exists. I digress.
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