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Where Have All the Allies Gone?
Townhall.com ^ | September 18, 2014 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 09/18/2014 5:30:10 AM PDT by Kaslin

The so-called Islamic State has left destruction everywhere that it has gained ground. But as in the case of the tribal Scythians, Vandals, Huns or Mongols of the past, sowing chaos in its wake does not mean that the Islamic State won't continue to seek new targets for its devastation.

If unchecked, the Islamic State will turn what is left of the nations of the Middle East into a huge Mogadishu-like tribal wasteland, from the Syrian Mediterranean to the Persian Gulf. And they will happily call the resulting mess a caliphate.

It is critical for United States to put together some sort of alliance of friendly Middle East governments and European states to stop the Islamic State before it becomes a permanent base for terrorist operations against the U.S. and its allies. Unfortunately, it appears unlikely that the U.S. will line up a muscular alliance -- at least until the Islamic State reaches the gates of Baghdad or plows on through to Saudi Arabia and forces millions of Arabs either to fight or submit.

Why the reluctance for allies to join the U.S.?

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Syria
KEYWORDS: allies; isis; johnwhowasinnamkerry; middleeast; vdh; victordavishanson
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To: Kaslin

WRONG QUESTION.

Where has all the US leadership gone??

There, fixed it.


21 posted on 09/18/2014 6:02:37 AM PDT by Flintlock (Deport them ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!)
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To: Kaslin

Gone to Jihad, every one.


22 posted on 09/18/2014 6:02:47 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

POSOTUS!


23 posted on 09/18/2014 6:03:55 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: Kaslin
EVERYTHING obama does either:
a) Weakens America/Americans
b) Distances America's allies
c) Strengthens America's enemies
d) Serves Islam
e) Harms Israel
Or some combination of the above.
I have yet to have anyone raise a single substantive counter example in several years of posting this.

b) Check. Mission accomplished.

24 posted on 09/18/2014 6:04:11 AM PDT by null and void (Only God Himself watches you more closely than the US government.)
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To: Kaslin
The so-called Islamic State has left destruction everywhere that it has gained ground

It is normal for death and destruction to follow, whenever muslims gather.

25 posted on 09/18/2014 6:05:53 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Rummyfan
Charlie Martel cooked up a batch of Hot Cross Buns.


26 posted on 09/18/2014 6:06:53 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Rummyfan

Very Western-European oriented view there — at the time of the Battle of Tours Anatolia, the Balkans, the Crimea, Sicily and India, all of which were eventually conquered by the Muslims were still unmolested by their expansionism.


27 posted on 09/18/2014 6:14:43 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Kaslin

re: POTUS my foot. He’s not my president and will never be

Well he sure as hell ain’t mine and after watching him, I think he can accurately be described as :
The Black’s President


28 posted on 09/18/2014 6:17:12 AM PDT by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Phillip Nolan by the day.)
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To: Kaslin

Why should anyone else commit to this war when they know we’ll do it for them?


29 posted on 09/18/2014 6:22:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Tupelo

Plus the uninformed aka ignorant caucasians


30 posted on 09/18/2014 6:24:36 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: sport
He created them. He armed them. He trained them

Exactly...ISIS is the invention of the White Hut to advance the caliphate throughout the ME. These characters are merely playing the "bad guy" so that we will arm and train the next bunch of "moderate Brotherhood" types who will eventually make a move on Israel. All of this is a means to an end..that end is: the end of Israel.

31 posted on 09/18/2014 6:24:38 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Truth29

The answer is: Absolutely not


32 posted on 09/18/2014 6:25:57 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Hugh the Scot

Correct


33 posted on 09/18/2014 6:28:24 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Rummyfan
"High tide for muslim expansion was The Battle of Tours, 732 A.D"

34 posted on 09/18/2014 6:56:58 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
1683

35 posted on 09/18/2014 7:02:39 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: The_Reader_David
Very skewed version of history: unmolested?

How about Nalanda, India? The library was destroyed in 1197 - 1203 during the Muslim invasion in which Bakhtiyar Khalji sacked it and set it to flames.

The library alone was so vast that it is reported to have burned for three months after the invaders set fire to it, ransacked and destroyed the monasteries and killed or drove the monks from the site.

Unmolested? your definition must be pretty rough.

36 posted on 09/18/2014 7:16:59 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: corkoman
Great Civilizations/Empires lost to Islam
Persian
Babylonian
Egyptian
Hebrew
Byzantine
Greek

Feel free to add to the list I'm tempted to put Roman North Africa on the list but I do not know if Roman North Africa was a great civilization on it own.

37 posted on 09/18/2014 7:27:21 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Kaslin

... friendly Middle East governments ....

Um, no. No such thing. Ultimately they all want the same thing as ISIS (in one form or another) so we are barking up the wrong tree thinking like this. They might USE US for a while to their own ends, but that’s about it.

Are our leaders THIS clueless?

I had never imagined this level of cluelessness existed. I have doubts they are this clueless and just want to make trouble because it profits them in some way. There is really no other logical explanation.


38 posted on 09/18/2014 7:37:54 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: rstrahan

Thank you. At least one other person on the planet gets it.

It’s a start.


39 posted on 09/18/2014 7:38:57 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: corkoman
And let's not forget the Library at Alexandria

From Wiki

"In 642 AD, Alexandria was captured by the Muslim army of Amr ibn al `Aas. There are five Arabic sources, all at least 500 years after the supposed events, which mention the fate of the library."

"Abd'l Latif of Baghdad (1162–1231) states that the library of Alexandria was destroyed by Amr, by the order of the Caliph Omar.

Yes the library had burn before but it was restored after acciendal fires. However when Islam destroyed it they destoryed it completely and never restored it.

Again from Wiki

"Omar replies: "If those books are in agreement with the Quran, we have no need of them; and if these are opposed to the Quran, destroy them."

40 posted on 09/18/2014 7:39:17 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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